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Jaythulhu

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Where's the "Who gives a flying fuck when there are REAL problems facing our version of civilisation?" option in the poll?

Seriously, I've been reading the same damn arguments over the same damn things for the last 20-odd years in some form or another. Can't we move on to something new and interesting already?
 

Calibanbutcher

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Oh my, this thread turned out even better than I could have hoped for.
Who would have thought a thread about BDSM would be so entertaining.
 

Calibanbutcher

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Boudica said:
Deviate said:
Boudica said:
Deviate said:
Boudica said:
Xman490 said:
In regards to the 21st century, the point can be made that women are slightly dominating men sexually, socially, and even educationally.
Dominating men sexually? You know how few women enjoy sex compared to men, right? How rarely a woman reaches orgasm from what most men consider intercourse--"put it in and move until I cum"? Have you seen porn recently? It's largely women pretending to moan and scream for the arousal of a man, while she sits, kneels or lies still and gets fucked, before then being ejaculated on. I'm willing to bet my life savings that your average man honestly believes women get off on simply lying still and having a dick pushed into her for three minutes.

How does society treat a woman that seeks out sex? With shame. With disrespect. It degrades her and labels her a dirty slut. A man doing the same? A player. Someone other men envy. Someone good at "getting laid."

Oh yeah, women are easily dominating men sexually.
Don't know what kind of society you hang around in, but whatever ass backwards country it is doesn't seem to be too representative. Here, women seek out sex comfortably and regularly. Oh, and by the way, they enjoy it too. Probably because in civilized societies, there's communication and everyone knows what's expected and desired from each other. What you seem to think "most men" do doesn't really translate into reality either.

In fact, you seem to have invented some fantasy world that conforms to whatever prejudice you find comfort in carrying around with you, because it certainly doesn't have anything to do with reality.

It's not the insane extremists in that link that gives feminists bad reputations. Those are just written off as exactly that. It's your kind that brings these ridiculous claims to the table and expects them to be taken seriously in this day and age.

Edit: Oh dear, I just caught your "most people are pretending" bit about BDSM. Exactly what kind of BDSM community have you gotten that particular bit of misinformation from, I wonder? There's one thing that is alpha and omega within BDSM and that is honesty and truth. It is the cornerstone of any successful BDSM or(and) D/s relationship since so much depends on communication. You need to be able to put a hundred percent trust in your partner for it to work.

No. "Most people" aren't pretending that it's non-consensual. Those that do aren't actually performing neither BDSM nor D/s. I suggest educating yourself more thoroughly on the subject before speaking quite so definitely on it. It's a subject of significant importance for quite a few of us.
lolwut

You just said that most people in SM relationships aren't pretending to be non-consenting. You realize that would mean they ACTUALLY don't want the sexual acts committed upon them, meaning you just said in an open forum that all SM relationships are rape.

Nice work!
Again, you seem to live in some fantasy world with no connection to reality. What do you think happens in an SM/BDSM relationship that implies non-consenting acts? Where are you getting your information? Bad porn? Pulled wholecloth out of your arse?

No, WE in BDSM and D/s relationships aren't pretending to be non-consenting. We consent or we don't. What you seem to be unable to grasp is that there is a significant power exchange that only ceases upon use of a safeword (or other safety mechanism restoring the safety and ensuring that there is indeed no such thing as rape going on). The consent is given, and until revoked the power is in the hands of the dominant or top.

You really need to educate yourself on subjects before you open your mouth about them. Especially when you're talking about a significant demographic that you apparently only know in your wildest imagination.
Oh. I get it. You're not actually reading the comments you reply to. Maybe if I type it in bold.

Again, in SM relationships, the submissive partner is pretending to be subservient, to be raped, to being tortured or degraded. In reality, everyone involved can walk out and stop the actions whenever they wish. It's called roleplay. It's pretend. No one is actually being raped or hurt.

If you had stopped to read the original comment you quoted and hadn't rushed, knee-jerk and all, to reply, you'd have noticed that I was referring to the relationship in 50 Shades of Grey as not a true SM relationship, as the woman was pretending to enjoy being subjugated. In a real SM relationship, those involved DO enjoy the roleplay and pretend not to when acting out things like abuse.

But hey, maybe you should talk to my boyfriend and tell him all about how I know nothing about our relationship. I'm sure he'd find it both enlightening and hilarious. Oh no wait--just hilarious.


Also, you have been on here for a MONTH and made more than 1500 posts already.
Chapeau
 

Legion

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I wouldn't be surprised to discover that the site was made by an anti-feminist to make them look bad.

Perhaps I am just naive, but I find it hard to believe people that stupid could actually exist.
 

Angie7F

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50 shades of grey is just horrible writing.
So using that as a source already makes the argument weak.
There are tons of other literature that could have been used as an example to strengthen this arguement, but they didn7t even bother.