Poll: So, why ARE you looking forward to the "next generation" of consoles?

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krazykidd

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AwkwardTurtle said:
I'm not particularly excited for the next generation of consoles. I am a very poor college student. I don't got teh moneyz for a new console system. :p

Honestly I've gotten way more into the PC gaming scene because of how long the console generation had been dragging on. I simply don't see any major benefits to purchasing a console rather than a decent PC. ESPECIALLY not after my blind ignorance in paying for Xbox Live Gold for quite a while. That business model is absolutely ridiculous now that I look at it in retrospect, but I was simply an ignorant child back then. At least PS+ offers legitimate bonuses for paying a monthly fee.

Anyways, I wouldn't say that I'm looking forward to the console generation, but I wouldn't say that I'm completely disinterested. I'm decidedly meh about it. If I could afford a new console then I'd look into it.

I'm going to massively disappointed when they announce that the new Sony system won't have backwards compatibility. There are some PS3 games that I really want to play. :p
4$ a month is a lot right? How do we make it through the year without starving .

OT: excited , not really . I'm starting to shift to retro game , most modern games just don't appeal to me no more . I'll probably why 1 this time instead of all three . I'm going to choose the one with the most Jrpgs. But the wiiu looks interesting at least .


Capcha : choco lazer boom . Uh...what?
 

natster43

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I want larger and deeper experiences in both Single and Multiplayer. I want the next Dead Rising to be able to have every zombie on the map already loaded from one end of the level to the other when you enter it and stay at least at the level of graphics it is at now, and to not just have bodies disappear after 5 seconds. I want to experience 64 people multiplayer games on my console and not just on my PC. Pretty much I want stuff to stay around this level of graphics, and just make larger, deeper, and more compelling games.
 

Vivi22

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Long story short, higher processing power means more complicated rulesets are possible. This means everything from better AI, to better physics, to entirely new genres of gameplay that become possible because we can better simulate complicated systems.
I agree that all of those are positives for having more powerful hardware, but as you predicted, I'd argue that they're rarely used effectively in those ways.

Neither Half Life 2 nor Star Wars: The Force Unleashed would have been possible on sixth gen hardware, in both cases because of the large amount of physics processing that had to be done.
I feel the need to point out that HL2 was released on the Xbox. And I might have tried to at least pick a better example than the Force Unleashed. It had some interesting tech running under the hood, but they forgot to make a fun game with it.

And those two are just the tip of the iceberg, a pair of games that were groundbreaking (at the time) in their use of physics engines. There is so much more to a new gen than graphics.
And here's the problem I run into. One of those games was actually ground breaking in it's use of physics, true. I'd say Portal was even more ground breaking than it was. TFU I would argue against because it really wasn't that ground breaking. Much of it's use of physics was limited to tossing enemies around and the like, and HL2 did it better three years earlier.

The problem is, while everyone is using better physics simulations now than they were a generation ago, almost no one uses them well. Reason being that almost no game relies on them to make a better experience. Sim type games like Gran Turismo can benefit from better physics simulation. Does something like Uncharted, Gear of War, or Mario Galaxy? Not really. Better physics simulation is really just making it easier to animate large set piece moments at that point, but a fun game isn't just watching set piece moments.

I really can't think of many other titles that use the current hardware well. Something like Just Cause 2 certainly benefits in terms of pure scale and destructibility, as does Red Faction: Guerrilla even though I hate that game. But apparently the best we can think to do with better physics is throwing objects at enemies or blowing up buildings. And AI hasn't really seen a huge jump in quality in at least half a decade, and I'm probably being generous there. AI routines being used today are still quite simple relative to actual intelligence because simulating intelligent enemies is not only hard, but often about simulating what feels good to play against rather than actual intelligence.

I just really haven't seen much benefit from the more powerful hardware outside of graphics yet since most developers just aren't using it for much else. Or at least not being creative in how it's used in these other areas. I'm not saying I'd trade that for less powerful systems since some legitimately benefit from the better technology, but most companies don't know what to do with it aside from making things bigger, louder, and prettier.

And with game budgets inflating steadily, I'm even less interested in seeing the number of developers who can develop on new hardware shrink further while those that can take fewer risks. If budgets keep growing, we're not going to see more creative use of the new hardware yet, we'll see less. I'd actually rather see developers forced to work against the hard limits of current technology for a while longer, because you're not going to wow people with current gen graphics anymore. Time to try something new.
 

loc978

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I'd love to see a new gen, simply because I want a better reason to build a new 8-core system than "I want to see how far I can push Supreme Commander with a completely ridiculous processor running it"

Seriously, as far as I know that's the only game on the market that can legitimately push a modern CPU to its limits without ignoring cores.

Man, now I'm sorely tempted to go blow $1300 on a new system just to fight 9 Sorian AIs with 2000 units each.
...not enough reason. My old dual-core from 2007 still suffices for anything on the market. Sad, really.
 

Artemis923

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I'm not shelling out 500 bucks for slightly better graphics. I'll quit console gaming and switch over to my pc...it runs everything fine the way it is.
 

Arina Love

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exclusive games and J-RPGs. I'll buy Sony console on day one and wait for 1-2 years till i decide if i want MS console or not. Still see no reason to buy a gaming pc.
 

Uriain

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I am looking forward to seeing how a more powerful machine opens up game size, game complexity, and overall speed available for the dev's to play with. I hope that dev's will take the extra power and use it to expand upon the concepts they know already, and delve into things they felt they could not accomplish.

What I am worried about though is there to be ONLY a push to trying to make graphics better. While I am all for having things look pretty (photorealistic or not) I think the area's where improvement could be felt/seen the most is in the AI, level design size, and larger capacity to have more things going on at one time (look at AC3 gameplay trailer/game which has the armies fighting).

Lastly, I would like to see Jade Empire 2, Battlefront 3, and Republic Commando 2 released. Nothing to do with the systems themselves, just a personal wishlist of mine :D
 

QuadFish

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Tippy said:
I'd love to see what the next gen of consoles bring can to the table that a ~$550 custom built PC can't (i3 3220 + HD6870).
Shit, really? I have a 6870 and my computer was about $1200AU (20 months ago). Guess I might need an upgrade some time soon...

OT: I probably gave it away just now, but I kind of lost interest in consoles back when I got my PC. I just love my keyboard/mouse and 120 FPS (120Hz monitors are seriously worth it btw) too much to go back.
 

DanielBrown

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I'll only be intrested if the next generation features an option to load your old profiles and has backwards compability at least one generation. If not I'll happily stick with my PS3 until there's not much left to do.

Should I have plenty of money to spare, that I don't wanna waste on new games or important stuff, I might get the next gen. Will probably wait a few years either way so the price goes down and there are plenty of games to get.
 

Yopaz

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Powerful computer here, having the same generation of consoles for a decade really makes games lag behind what my PC can accomplish.
 

Soviet Steve

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Well I have a computer that does Crysis on maxed settings without hiccups so I'm sortof curious as to why I should get a console. I've been waiting for this generation to give me a reason and thus far nothing has been done. Hopefully the next one will be different?
 

Tippy

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QuadFish said:
Tippy said:
I'd love to see what the next gen of consoles bring can to the table that a ~$550 custom built PC can't (i3 3220 + HD6870).
Shit, really? I have a 6870 and my computer was about $1200AU (20 months ago). Guess I might need an upgrade some time soon...

OT: I probably gave it away just now, but I kind of lost interest in consoles back when I got my PC. I just love my keyboard/mouse and 120 FPS (120Hz monitors are seriously worth it btw) too much to go back.
Oh I was referring to $USD, AU/NZ prices can get pretty nuts. US prices are sooo much cheaper, yes you can get an i3 3220 + 6870 build for $560 lol. Includes case, psu, mobo, etc.

I too have a 120hz monitor (with a GTX580 to power it :p), they are so butter smooth. I can't believe consoles lock some games to 30 fps.
 

squidface

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I know a lot of devs are already making games for next gen, and some were even waiting for next gen before bringing out certain games, so I want to see/play those!
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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I'm a bit wary, because there are all sorts of evil s*** they could try to pull with new consoles. Like download-only systems with no hard drives, cloud saving so you never have your own save files, in-built DRM, no backwards compatibility, ...advertising..., all kinds of horrible stuff I don't want to think about. The only faith I have is that one or other of Microsoft or Sony will see the benefit in being the system that doesn't have those things. Otherwise, well...I might go to PC, who knows. I'm not above ditching Sony, even having been an avid PS3 user.

But...I do look forward to the next generation, for a number of reasons. 1. FROM Software will have to make a new Armored Core game. I get the feeling they're not particularly bothered now that ACV is out and everyone in Japan is happy while it stagnates everywhere else. 2. Maybe I will finally see a Monster Hunter game I can play again. As far as I know there's no exclusivity deal, so the options are still open. Yes, I am that naive. 3. Obviously will be technically better allowing better games. 4. I get the impression that everyone at the moment is just waiting for it so they can make some games. They had demos at E3 of console games running on high-end computers because they expect it to be on the PS4 and Xbox 720. We're not done with current technology, but we might as well be with that kind of attitude. 5. I want to see if the Wii U lives up to Jim's expectations or not. ^^
 

AwkwardTurtle

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krazykidd said:
4$ a month is a lot right? How do we make it through the year without starving .
Cut me some slack, I was a baby back my primarily console gaming days. $60 for a year of gold membership was a significant investment for me in terms of the money I had to spend on gaming. I just don't like the idea of having to spend $60 a year for basic online functionality that is free on PS3 and PC. There are other things that I could be spending that money on.

It just seems like a silly business model to me now.