Poll: Spanking vs Grounding

[Diligent]

I'm pretty sure if you requested a caning in stead of jail time, you'd be held in contempt of court.

On a serious note I think spanking is a terrible way of disciplining children, it teaches them to think that you should respond to disagreements with physical violence and that's not ok.

No way, my mom would break out THE WOODEN SPOON when my sister and I were being shits.
Sometimes seeing it would be enough to get us to smarten the hell up.

And would you believe it, Ive never been in a fight in my life.

Though I did have a hard time thinking of those things as a cooking utensil until I was in my teens, but thats about the only way it fucked me up.

Even if, in your case, it didn't have a noticeably negative effect, the point remains that you shouldn't hit kids. : /

Well, I wont argue with that. If only because it seems like a very juvenile way to deal with children. Its like going into primate mode, even though we have evolved to use speech as our primary communication tool. We should be past using our teeth and fists for that.
I just think people overestimate how much of a negative effect it has on kids.

 

[Vet2501]

I didn't need to ask. Smacking was my parents punishment of choice over grounding.

 

[uchi mata]

I always thought that when you were a kid you got spanked and when you were a teen you got grounded that's how it was for me anyways.

 

[Double A]

Well, no. That's because I was spanked once when I was really young (don't remember what happened), and grounded 2-3 times since I was 10 (never before). I don't think I would have gotten a spanking considering what I did (accidentally twisted my mom's ankle while trying not to get blood taken, needles scare the piss out of me; bad grades 1-2 times). Not serious enough.

 

[Danish rage]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

You are spot on.

Spanking is nothing more than violence and groundings today are a joke considering the internet, cable, console and all that other crap we as parent buy to our kids. Most kids today see it as a punishment to get kicked outside though. A cut in allowance or a financial compensation if the kid has a job is something they understand. Funny enough much like the real world money has the final word.

There are so many things wrong with fysical punsihment towards kids i don´t know where to begin.
Fortunally you go to jail for it where i live. And if i see you spank a kid, im gonna call social sevices on you´re ass soooooo fast.
Sry for gramma.

There are already topics about spanking vs other punishments, lets try to stay on topic.

And you contribution to the thread is what?

 

[Mr. Google]

Yes. I would rather be spanked than grounded. I got completely grounded for a year once. I would rather have had a spanking and gotten it over with. A few seconds of pain and then 5 minutes of numbness vs. 1 year of complete and utter boredom? What would you pick? I was never given the choice; for this reason, grounding was usually more effective after about 5th grade.

What did you do to make you grounded for a year? i got grounded for 6 months because of my continuation of terrible grades

 

[Rothgar blood]

haha i was good so never had to worrie about this me and my mom were just cool i obayed ta rulez i got ta gamez >

 

[pat34us]

I always thought that when you were a kid you got spanked and when you were a teen you got grounded that's how it was for me anyways.

Now that we are on the third page it seems some of you are getting lazy and not reading the original post OR the poll. Then you would know what was going on.

 

[Communist partisan]

I would never want to get beaten instead of grounding by my parents I had fucking enough of getting beaten with objects, whith fists, getting strangled and put under cold water by those bastards

 

[uchi mata]

I always thought that when you were a kid you got spanked and when you were a teen you got grounded that's how it was for me anyways.

Now that we are on the third page it seems some of you are getting lazy and not reading the original post OR the poll. Then you would know what was going on.

No I read the op and the thread and answered the poll but this hole thing has been derailed so I figured I add my two cents in to the new topic.

 

[pat34us]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

You are spot on.

Spanking is nothing more than violence and groundings today are a joke considering the internet, cable, console and all that other crap we as parent buy to our kids. Most kids today see it as a punishment to get kicked outside though. A cut in allowance or a financial compensation if the kid has a job is something they understand. Funny enough much like the real world money has the final word.

There are so many things wrong with fysical punsihment towards kids i don´t know where to begin.
Fortunally you go to jail for it where i live. And if i see you spank a kid, im gonna call social sevices on you´re ass soooooo fast.
Sry for gramma.

There are already topics about spanking vs other punishments, lets try to stay on topic.

And you contribution to the thread is what?

My contribution would be the OP, so take that

I always thought that when you were a kid you got spanked and when you were a teen you got grounded that's how it was for me anyways.

Now that we are on the third page it seems some of you are getting lazy and not reading the original post OR the poll. Then you would know what was going on.

No I read the op and the thread and answered the poll but this hole thing has been derailed so I figured I add my two cents in to the new topic.

Fair enough, but we have had plenty of debates like that, I would like us to stay on-topic if possible.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

I was doing research for a debate for my speech class and ran into some youtube videos reguarding this website. http://www.videodaregame.com/calculator/grounded.php

The basic idea is to get out of grounding you type your info into the website and it tells you how many spanks you need to get to get out of the grounding. I know a lot of you are to old now but when you were younger would you have considered trying something like this?

People that had just one or the other had it easy. I usually had to endure both at the same time.

Asking for a punishment? Really? If your parents let you choose, they were very bad at discipline. It puts all the power in the kid's hand. The kid still gets punished, but he/she gets the punishment he/she felt less severe, so in the end the kid wins and learns nothing.

 

[SwagLordYoloson]

Never received a spanking, but sometimes when I was bad dad would take me up to the fire place and put a long piece of hot metal into the open fire and then after it was red he would put it in my hands.

 

[Lilani]

And yet studies since 1940 have shown that spankings and other forms of violent punishment cause anti-social behavior.

Then by all means bring it on. Show me these studies from the 1940s, and ones from the present as well. After all, the 1940s was also the time when Walter Freeman was using ice picks and hammers to remove chunks of the frontal lobes of mentally disturbed patients as a cure-all for the crazies.

 

[Wintermoot]

spanking kids generaly have rooms filled with toys making grounding useless (unless you have a room that has nothing in it or you raise your kids in a spartan way (IE not like Halo spartans or SPARTANS! simply without any luxury items))
PS as a form of punishment my parents used a ice cold shower as a form as punishment (they only used it once but still it might work even better then spanking or grounding)

 

[Knusper]

My parents usually only grounded the middle child of my family, and that was when he was about 13, as he was the only one with a real social life (by that time, my oldest brother had been expelled from school and always struggled with making friends because he had Aspergers Syndrome and my twin brother and I were still in primary school at the time, and so all our friends lived nearby, and so we could easily sneak out to the playground or whatever). They never used it on him at any other age or on anyone else.

It was therefore not much of a predicament, they usually just punished me with going to my room or not feeding me. The punishment would probably only have got worse if I had tried to change it, my parents would have considered it cheeky.

 

[jamesfrommelbourne]

spanking prevents a.d.d....fact

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Both are stupid.

I would personally rather be grounded because it is so unbelievably easy to get out of.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I was spanked. That is the reason why I've never done anything to anger them, and my parents have hardly ever grounded me.

In the long run, I'm happy for it; back then? Sure, I'd take spanking, as long as they didn't take away my TV D:

 

[LebbyLegs]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

People like you are the entire reason the world is so messed up.

If they do something bad, you take something away. They will soon learn that by doing that bad thing, they lose something they like.

Statements like this one make me stick to my opinion.
It is needlessly agressive and personal and shows clearly that the author didn't bother to read my following posts or the rest of the thread.

I think such behavior is the result of lower-level-moral-thinking. If you don't bother about things that go beyond personal consequences (If I do something bad, I might get punished) then you don't have any understanding about what is good or bad as soon as there is no clear punishment (see: Internet forums). Unfortunatly moral reasoning is nothing that is given to us from birth (contrary to what the early british empirists might say).

It is something that has to be learned. And a child can't learn that if the punishment for missbehavior does not reflect the missbehavior. Spanking and grounding are both incredibly arbitrary, they lack a connection to reality. How many spanks are worth a shoplift? How many are child abuse?

If you must punish you children, do it by emphazing the value of the broken rule. Someone earlier joked about me by asking, if I would punish my kid, that had beaten a neighbor, by allowing the neighbor so slap it.

Definately! I am not about wrapping kids in cotton, but about punishment that as a connection to the missbehavior and encourages moral reasoning. If my kid feels the pain of being beaten by another kid first hand, it will understand why we don't do that. You cannot recreate the same experience by withholding a xbox.

In my opinion the problem with your theory is that you seem to be acting as if your punishing an adult. Young Kids don't understand complex punishments or explanations, nor do they give a shit.
If your kid jumps on the table and starts dancing around swearing and the like, you cant really start explaining why that is not socially acceptable, and then divine an appropriate punishment that matches whatever way they acted like a silly bugger. Instead you pluck them off the table, give them a firm smack, say 'Don't do it again' and the kid will stop.
My parents smacked me when I misbehaved, and I turned out alright, as did most of my charming, smart friends.
Smacking your children doesn't make you a bad parent, in fact, if used sparingly it makes you a better paret, because your not afraid to be firm with your children, so they grow into good people who can divine right from wrong.