Poll: Spiderman VS Alex Mercer

[Azure-Supernova]

B. His spider-sense is phenomenly useful when used properly. Spidey has won many (or at least a couple) of fights with his eyes closed, relying on his Spidersense to predict his opponents every move. There's no way Mercer could take him by surprise and Spidey if he plays his cards right could hit him without ever receiving an injury.

You can't win a fight by simply evading over and over though and you if you can't damage your opponent (unless Spiderman now has a punch with as much force as a missile). As much as Spider can see Mercer's attacks incoming, Mercer can dodge or take anything Spiderman has to offer. They didn't codename him ZEUS for shits and giggles.

 

[DustyDrB]

Spider-Man wins. Why?

Short answer: Good guy wins. No matter what.

Long answer: Spider-Man fights Mercer twice and is overwhelmed both times. Then he discovers the location of the Ancient Scientist Laser Ray Shaman Staff of Absolute Annihilation, which only responds to the whims of the noble. He fights Mercer again and is able shoot one Magic Spaghetti Sauce Laser that only glances the foe. Mercer is hurt but gets away. Then Spider-Man finds the symbiote suit, which gives him enough extra speed and reflexes to get a direct killing shot against Mercer.

This is a being that can be seperated into as many pieces as you like. As long as there is some form of organic matter around (which there will be thanks to either Spidey and Pals or civvies) he will re-form, using them as material.

I think you missed the point. Mercer is strong, but nothing can beat the power of the MacGuffin.

 

[WolfThomas]

B. His spider-sense is phenomenly useful when used properly. Spidey has won many (or at least a couple) of fights with his eyes closed, relying on his Spidersense to predict his opponents every move. There's no way Mercer could take him by surprise and Spidey if he plays his cards right could hit him without ever receiving an injury.

You can't win a fight by simply evading over and over though and you if you can't damage your opponent (unless Spiderman now has a punch with as much force as a missile). As much as Spider can see Mercer's attacks incoming, Mercer can dodge or take anything Spiderman has to offer. They didn't codename him ZEUS for shits and giggles.

Obviously dogding by itself isn't going to win the battle, but as I mentioned above he'd probably make some sort of cure and then be able to evade Mercer long enough for it to work. This isn't my logic, in the Marvel Universe a teenager can make a strong, disposable fibre that compacts with a chemistry set in his bedroom.

I think you missed the point. Mercer is strong, but nothing can beat the power of the MacGuffin.

And Spiderman is up there with the greats when it comes to Macguffin designing.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Errr........ An irritating news reporter who can swing from webs and shoot them at people or the living virus who can morph his body into almost any shape and make a massive sword appear in one hand, an extending tentacle in the other and be wearing bullet proof armor made from his own flesh.......

Your answer lies here: [spoiler/][image/]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kHpAP39uhMw/SsKIGDE_r3I/AAAAAAAABCU/cl-MgTjbl90/s400/dead_spider-man-.jpg[/IMG][/spoiler]

 

[spinFX]

How is this even a question? Mercer is super hacks. He cannot lose >.<

Mind you deus ex machina [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina] would save Spidey. He would invent some radiation or something to win.

It's the good guy always wins mentality, but straight up Mercer would rape poor Spidey.

 

[REAPER5594]

yes, because it's Alex Mercer's MO to let his meals get away. seriously, If Alex got the chance to absorb a superhero, he wouldn't fuck it up. now after absorbing Spider-Man, he now has a super fast and agile fighting style in tandem with his shapeshifting and brutal strength and street fighting skills. and spider-sense. he then uses the knowelege to find Carnage and Venom and consume them. thus becoming the ultimate entity in NYC. after that he heads off to Professor xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters for a quick snack. yep, sticking Mercer into the Marvel Universe (or any universe with superheros) is like dumping sulfuric acid into your Xbox 360. stuff is fucking destroyed. EVERYWHERE.
Plus Alex is a genius geneticist and only gets smarter through consuming, so he even beats Spidey there. Yo, Spider, if you see a dude with a hoodie and leather jacket, and a blade or huge claws, run, just GTFO.

 

[Gudrests]

I don't know a great deal about either but Alex Mercer does seem stupidly overpowered.

lets put it this way...he beats you up..eats you..his health is restored..and now he can do and knows everything you can....he beats spiderman...OMG he win at life...

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Obviously dogding by itself isn't going to win the battle, but as I mentioned above he'd probably make some sort of cure and then be able to evade Mercer long enough for it to work. This isn't my logic, in the Marvel Universe a teenager can make a strong, disposable fibre that compacts with a chemistry set in his bedroom.

But the problem here lies with the fact that Bloodtox was developed as an anti-Blacklight agent and after inhaling enough of the stuff, Mercer grew resistant to it. The other attempt on his life was a parasite that slowly developed and deployed a vaccine within Mercer. Even with the parasite essentially curing him whilst latched on, Mercer retained his speed, strength and dexterity, even if he did lose his power. Outside of using comic book logic, Spiderman has zero hope against an entity that can reassembe its viral body.

 

[Agayek]

This thread really should have been Zordon Vs Alpha from the original Power Rangers show.

Edit: Mercer would win easily. The only way Spidey would have a prayer is some severe plot magic.

 

[johnsom]

Spider sense bordering on precognition vs flailing black stuff. Plus spiderman is much more experienced having dealt with numerous bad dudes.

 

[Mstrswrd]

Recently my friend asked me the question, who would win in a fight, Alex Mercer or Spiderman. No on the surface it seems like a fairly easy question; Alex Mercer can kill things by scowling angrily at them, and Spiderman has gotten beat up by an old man with metal dildo's strapped to his back.
But I found that Spiderman is a hell of a lot smarter than Alex Mercer so I thought the scenario would play out like this.

Spiderman would encounter Alex Mercer, get the shit kicked out of him and barely escape with his life, then develop a cure for the black testicle virus (or whatever) and spray him with it, turning him back into Alex Mercer! Or a corpse, whichever works better.

Also my view has actual evidence behind it (oh golly). Just look at the original comics with Spiderman vs Doctor Octopus, the Vulture and that Lizard thing.

You do realize that Alex Mercer died when the Virus took him over, right? The entire game, there was no Alex Mercer, only a virus that thought it was Alex Mercer, and than later referred to itself as such to keep itself somewhat sane and rooted so as to protect itself from the myriad of personalities it had absorbed. This leads directly into thee fact the Virus is always evolving. Always. Literally, in the time it would take to read this, if it was real, there would be about 15 new variants of the virus, or more, probably.

As for a cure, did you play the game fully through, and get every single web of intrigue node? There is no cure. That's kinda the point. There's an poison type chemical that kills the virus, but even that becomes useless as the virus evolves and grows immune.

Yes, Peter Parker is intelligent, perhaps even more so that Alex Mercer was, but he's not more intelligent than several dozen genius's compressed into one person, who has the abilities of an entire cities worth of people at his disposal.

Oh, and he can pull a Wolverine and survive a Nuclear explosion.

So, yeah, I have evidence too. Alex Mercer would win, and probably easily at that.

Actually, that would be a better question: Who would win, Wolverine or Alex Mercer? Wolverine's Adamantium probably prevents him from being absorbed, and Alex can survive literally anything, so that's abattle that would never end.

Apologies if I was rude.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Spider sense bordering on precognition vs flailing black stuff. Plus spiderman is much more experienced having dealt with numerous bad dudes.

Actually, very wrong. Given that Mercer consumed several military personell, specialist officers, numerous Hunters, Omega Hunters and the Supreme Hunter, it's safe to say that he has amassed years of combat and fighting experience. And how useful is Spider sense when your enemy is faster, smarter, stronger and has better reflexes, not to mention attack range.

 

[Magicman10893]

Alex Mercer can turn into a large pile of pure armor and turn his arm into a large fucking whip that can decapitate people about 50 feet away! If Spider Man does somehow escape, which is unlikely since Alex Mercer can basically fly, run completely vertically up the side of the Empire State building and can hijack tanks and helicopters, Alex Mercer can turn into the shape of anyone he absorbs! All he has to do is pose as a random old woman who was the victim of a guy stealing her purse and when Spidey has his guard down, can literally eat him! Hell, Mercer can absorb May Jane (lol) and when Spidey goes to kiss her, BAM!!! Eaten. Gone. Now Alex Mercer has the intelligence and powers of Spider Man and can now go around slinging webs AND flying around with a 7 foot long sword for an arm!

 

[Loop Stricken]

Most everyone else has explained how boned Spidey would be but I just wanted to point one thing out;

Seriously, if you know anything from the comics, a single strand of spider web is enough to hang 5 tons of weight in the air. Just imagine how much a punk like Mercer weights, maybe what? 150, 270 pounds at most when he's using his transformed states.

Mercer absorbs mass. He's a heavy fuck. Jump off a building, see crater form as you land. He doesn't look it but he's got tonnage.

Actually, that would be a better question: Who would win, Wolverine or Alex Mercer? Wolverine's Adamantium probably prevents him from being absorbed, and Alex can survive literally anything, so that's abattle that would never end.

I would've thought it possible for Mercer to absorb all the organic parts of ol' Logan, leaving just a shiny skeleton.

 

[Kelethor]

Versus Thread?? On my Escapist? :3

OT: As much as love that wise cracking web slinger, Alex Mercer would Beat the shit out of him. then eat him. Then eat Aunt May.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Mercer is a dead man being mimicked by a sentient virus that can shapeshift, absorb memories, and regenerate from a nuclear blast. It (not he) has super strength, speed, can run straight up skyscrapers and glide, and is overall a force of ridiculous violence and destruction capable of elbow-dropping a tank in half, or bisecting 20 people in a single swing of its whipfist. It is prone to eating people.

Spiderman is kind of strong and agile, and has those web thingies. He is prone to nonstop wisecracking and freelance photography.

Seriously, why are we having this argument again? The only way a superhero of Spidey's caliber wins in a fight with something the military codenamed Zeus (for extremely good reasons) is by relying on plot armor, otherwise known as bullshit. It's obvious he would lose, badly.

The better question though is why they would fight in the first place - Mercer, or the thing calling itself that anyways, is a complete sociopath with no regard for human life, but for all that he's not really a villain either. Alex Mercer was basically the villain, but he's dead and the thing wearing his face was just looking for answers and trying to survive a brutal military crackdown, which it wasn't responsible for - you can't blame a virus infesting a corpse for the actions of the corpse prior to it becoming the corpse that it infests after all.

 

[Canid117]

But I found that Spiderman is a hell of a lot smarter than Alex Mercer so I thought the scenario would play out like this.

You mean the intellectual genetic engineer Alex Mercer who headed the Blacklight project?

Spiderman would encounter Alex Mercer, get the shit kicked out of him and barely escape with his life, then develop a cure for the black testicle virus (or whatever) and spray him with it, turning him back into Alex Mercer! Or a corpse, whichever works better.

My problem is bolded. Alex Mercer doesn't usually let foes escape... leaving Spider bet half dead? More like beating the bollocks out of him and then absorbing him.

Also my view has actual evidence behind it (oh golly). Just look at the original comics with Spiderman vs Doctor Octopus, the Vulture and that Lizard thing.

Well let's look at this evidence. Alex Mercer can disguise himself as anyone he's absorbed. He can run faster than Spiderman, climb buildings faster than Spiderman and has superhuman reflexes. If all else fails and Spidey lands a few lucky punchest, devestation tentacle barrage, sure Spiderman can dodge eight metal arms, but can he dodge hundreds of lethal tentacles?

EDIT
And yes, Versus threads aren't brilliant.

here's the thing. Even by playing Prototype for just a teensy bit, it quickly becomes clear that Alex Mercer is not a smart guy. He may have been all sciency and shit but IMHO Spiderman is smarter.
And for the "barely escapes with his life" bit, Spiderman has escaped from incredible situations before, he's actually pretty good at that.
Also for your list of powers, they don't really mean as much if Spiderman can outwit him.

He is supposed to be very intelligent but confused and amnesiac at first. If we are talking end game Alex then Parker would be ass fucked in eight different ways.

That said Comic Book Spiderman is much more powerful than he is in the movies and games.

In comics he can, Press 10 tons, Exert himself at peak performance for several hours before becoming tired, break the arm of a non-superpowered attacker by simply taking the hit and not rolling with the blow, react 40 times faster than a normal human (Not counting spider sense), recover from severe injury in a few days and run fast enough to catch a speeding car. The spiderman of the movies and games is a joke compared to the Spiderman in the comics.

 

[johnsom]

Spider sense bordering on precognition vs flailing black stuff. Plus spiderman is much more experienced having dealt with numerous bad dudes.

Actually, very wrong. Given that Mercer consumed several military personell, specialist officers, numerous Hunters, Omega Hunters and the Supreme Hunter, it's safe to say that he has amassed years of combat and fighting experience. And how useful is Spider sense when your enemy is faster, smarter, stronger and has better reflexes, not to mention attack range.

Iam not convinced any of the things he absorbed would allow him to use his unique powers more effectively.

 

[martin's a madman]

But I found that Spiderman is a hell of a lot smarter than Alex Mercer so I thought the scenario would play out like this.

You mean the intellectual genetic engineer Alex Mercer who headed the Blacklight project?

This is leading to another versus thread,
Which are smarter?
Genetic Engineers or Physicists (If I remember properly he (Peter Parker was a student of physics).

Of course, that debate is a joke...

 

[johnsom]

Can I get a ruling on this. Does Alex absorb the brain power or just the memories of what he eats?