Poll: Suicide - Your opinion

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Insanum

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hoopyfrood said:
Shycte said:
What I meant was that Suicide is never something good. It is always better to take care of the problems rather then to just end it.
Yes, because every problem clearly must have a solution. Hey, it's true in video games, so it must also be true in real life, right?

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It's a thing only a coward would do.
Please stop posting.
Calm down or troll somewhere else please, I dont want my thread locked, Im valuing the valid input.
 

Shycte

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hoopyfrood said:
Yes, because every problem clearly must have a solution. Hey, it's true in video games, so it must also be true in real life, right?
I alredy apologised and said that I don't know why anyone would commit suicide. You have to be really depressed and see no light at the end of the tunnel.

What I meant was that it's better to try to take care of the problems instead of killing yourself, leaving the loved ones with sorrow and pain.

But I can't help to feel that you are basicly saying: If you are in deep shit, jump of a bridge.

But that can't be correct, right?...

Now, I don't know why I'm catching attitude from you, but please, tell me.
 

Insanum

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Shycte said:
hoopyfrood said:
Yes, because every problem clearly must have a solution. Hey, it's true in video games, so it must also be true in real life, right?
I alredy apologised and said that I don't know why anyone would commit suicide. You have to be really depressed and see no light at the end of the tunnel.

What I meant was that it's better to try to take care of the problems instead of killing yourself, leaving the loved ones with sorrow and pain.

But I can't help to feel that you are basicly saying: If you are in deep shit, jump of a bridge.

But that can't be correct, right?...

Now, I don't know why I'm catching attitude from you, but please, tell me.
Its ok, He's been warned - Im trying to keep things civil - I think he's just trolling.
 

Shycte

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hoopyfrood said:
Shycte said:
I alredy apologised and said that I don't know why anyone would commit suicide. You have to be really depressed and see no light at the end of the tunnel.

What I meant was that it's better to try to take care of the problems instead of killing yourself, leaving the loved ones with sorrow and pain.

But I can't help to feel that you are basicly saying: If you are in deep shit, jump of a bridge.

But that can't be correct, right?...

Now, I don't know why I'm catching attitude from you, but please, tell me.
Some problems don't have solutions, and once your pain exceeds your capacity for coping, you're done for. If you don't know why anyone would commit suicide, you're either too inexperienced or incapable of empathy.
So I am the one who is incapable of empathy? I am the one who wants to help them.

You are the one saying; Meh, let them kill themself, why should we try to help them?

Where is the empathy in that I ask you?
 

Insanum

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hoopyfrood said:
Insanum said:
Its ok, He's been warned - Im trying to keep things civil - I think he's just trolling.
If I got 5 cents every time I run into someone who has no idea what trolling is, I would be rich enough to buy myself a country from Africa.
You placed the term "please stop posting" - No OT remarks whatsoever. There is no call for that around here. everyones OT opinion is valid, Regardless of what they say. If not Trolling then certainly flaming. Now lets please keep things OT & Less aggressive.
 

ArcWinter

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I said depends because you did not have an "other" option. In fact it does not depend, and if someone does commit suicide they are being a douchebag, and if they did not succeed I would kill them for being so goddamn stupid to attempt it. However I would kill them painfully, because karma dictates so.

In short, suicide is for the weak and idiotic.
 

Jedoro

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If you're on your deathbed and don't want to wait for a miracle to save you, assisted suicide.

If someone needs one of your organs that you would die without, noble sacrifice.

If you're an emo son of a ***** who hates yourself for no other reason than low self-esteem, cowardly.

It just depends on the reason, really.
 

Shycte

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hoopyfrood said:
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So I am the one who is incapable of empathy? I am the one who wants to help them.

You are the one saying; Meh, let them kill themself, why should we try to help them?

Where is the empathy in that I ask you?
You're either inexperienced (i.e. don't know anything about life) or lacking in empathy. These are your options.
And you did not answer my question.

Where is the empathy is your point.

Answer me Mr. Hypocrite.
 

ArcWinter

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hoopyfrood said:
ArcWinter said:
I said depends because you did not have an "other" option. In fact it does not depend, and if someone does commit suicide they are being a douchebag, and if they did not succeed I would kill them for being so goddamn stupid to attempt it. However I would kill them painfully, because karma dictates so.

In short, suicide is for the weak and idiotic.
Tell that to people who get sent to prison where they are gangraped on a daily basis, or people who are suffering from an incurable disease that will slowly make them unable to use any of their muscles. You fucking piece of shit.
Oh yeah, didn't consider that.
Um... wait, why would you get in prison? Just try and kill someone to get into solitary confinement and then slowly go insane.
For the disease, ignore reality. Go insane in the confines of your mind. Your imagination is much better than the real world anyway.

So, pretty much just go insane.

I'm a "fucking piece of shit"? Hundreds, sometimes thousands of people die everyday, I don't have time to care for all of them. Maybe I'll care for one or two, which at my age would mean I've cared for 4,800 dying people.

Please note that:
- I am a horrible person, by modern standards.
- I have no empathy for people I do not know well.
- I am a hypocrite.
 

Shycte

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hoopyfrood said:
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And you did not answer my question.

Where is the empathy is your point.

Answer me Mr. Hypocrite.
Nowhere have I expressed a lack of empathy for people who commit suicide. You're making things up.
Well, it couldn't be with the fact that you're telling me that you shouldn't try to help sucidal persons.

These people need help. They can't help themself out of this and you come here and tell me that they shouldn't be helped.

And that, is probably one of the most cruel things I have ever heard.
 

Shapsters

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If people are really depressed, like mental illness bad, then they can't really be blamed. But for most people it really is selfish, they are having some problems so they pretty well ruin everyone else lives because they dont feel they can fix the problem. Most of the time suicide is worse on the family than something like a car crash because your family grieves your death and wonders why, why did he kill himself? Why didn't he talk to his parents, tell someone he was having problems, could his death have been prevented? It tears at the hearts and minds of family and friends!

EDIT- Oh and I fully, and I mean fully support assisted suicide, why should people have to live through live only to look forward to death? I can think of nothing more cruel than a doctor telling someone they have 0% chance of living, but it will take a year to die and the person is stuck in the hospital. Why make them suffer through a year of pain, suffering and misery just so they can die?