Poll: Suicide - Your opinion
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The fact that my religion is against homosexuals has always bugged me. I'm not against it; hell I'm all for it. Again, purely pragmatic, that means that there is less competition for the women out there .Housebroken Lunatic said:So do gay people... Do you and your religion like them as well?AvsJoe said:
First of all, you'd still have friends left.. And as you choose them yourself they are unlikely to backstab you (unless you are messed up)Maraveno said:
As for the rest, no I haven't had any actual rock bottom situations eventhough I do kinda hate my current life but the only way to change it is to graduate and move away from here ASAP...
You misunderstood what I meant. (and I really can't be bothered explaining right now, sorry. fair mistake though)Insanum said:
Anyway, here's the simplest way for me to portray my opinion.
You have only so long to live, you have an eternity to be dead, why not make the most of what you got? (shallow argument, but works for me) I condone the suicide of those who can't improve their lifestyle (in other words are physically impaired, or something similar), or honestly can't find a single thing to live for (which basically means to me that if so much as a single person gives a shit that you're dead you shouldn't do it)
... Well not really, I mean there's still the lesbians to consider. That's not only ONE woman "wasted" (in the eyes of the prowling heterosexual male) but TWO!AvsJoe said:
But can't you distance yourself from the established religion? I mean, your worship of your god is a business between you and your god, not the people you go to church with. Nor is it the preacher's business.
Or could you simply be content in the fact that your god hates homosexuals and want's to throw them to hell simply for being different?
I don't know if you'd like to hear this but that argument can be reversed. If we're all going to be dead for eternity anyway, what's the point in living at all? Why cling to something and actually learn to enjoy it when you know that it will all be taken away forever pretty soon? (I say "soon" because in comparison to be dead for eternity, a lifetime is pretty short) Why not just end it all immediately and be done with it?Kurokami said:
Dunno if you believe in an afterlife, but to me my life is the longest thing in the world, I'll never experience something longer, will I? you can say that a tree is older then me, but what do I know, to me it only exists so long as I know it.Housebroken Lunatic said:
Now suppose I know you, and with that view you kill yourself, you would have ended, your existence meaningless (as is everyone's) but in my mind is all that matters, if we were close you'd be a prick who didn't care enough about me or anyone else who cared about him/her to go on living, in my perception you'll be worse then non existent and my perception is everything. (as is yours for you, etcetc)
Any suicide that didn't involve robbing a bank is a waste in my eyes.Kukul said:
But anyway, I'm inclined to say depends. Can't say cowardice, cowardice is reserved for those who are sound of mind, and if you are prepared to take your life then you most certainly aren't so...depends.
Because most people say "dead for eternity" because they don't know what lies beyond. Some people commit suicide to chance life after death, which is quite the gamble.Housebroken Lunatic said:
But still, IMO if you still have your health, I can't justify you hanging from the noose. Some might give me an example, but say I was crossing a bridge and you were about to jump, and you told me why, would I say "Yeah, you're right, I guess you should jump"? Fuck no.
I chose it depends purely because I don't think it's a black and white subject.
Since some people are better at coping with problems than others it's obvious that at some point, people who can't cope very well will feel overwhelmed by their problems and look at suicide as a viable alternative, whereas people better suited to coping may be able to just shrug the same problem off as if it were nothing.
Since some people are better at coping with problems than others it's obvious that at some point, people who can't cope very well will feel overwhelmed by their problems and look at suicide as a viable alternative, whereas people better suited to coping may be able to just shrug the same problem off as if it were nothing.
Nope. I don't believe in an afterlife. Mostly because of scientific facts I have pieced together. Now I can't say for certain that an afterlife doesn't exist, but the probability of it is very small. After all,we're just biological machines, driven by energy, and while energy can't be created or destroyed but merely converted, the bioelectric energy driving my brain and therefor drive my awareness will sooner or later forever be turned into thermal energy. There's not much room for an awareness in temperature alone.Kurokami said:
But the part were you say I'd be a prick for killing myself If we were real close, that begs another question. Who do you live for? I mean really, we're all living for ourselves, not for anyone else, why should it be any different with our deaths?
It's not that any one of us really asked to be born, it was forced upon us. We didn't really ask to be liked by others either or missed when we're gone, but we are anyway (well most of us at least).
If we all basically live for ourselves, shouldn't we die for ourselves as well?
Hehe, then I guess you're a more idealistic person than I am.ChromeAlchemist said:
If I was walking across a bridge and saw someone ready to jump, I'd just say:
"Well jump then motherf*cker! Die with some dignity and prove to me that you're not just another whiny b*tch whose craving attention!"
... Or rather I'd ask them if I can have the money in their wallet first. (it's not like they're gonna need it where they are going now is it?)
Selfish. Think of the grief you will cause everyone who knows you.
A nerdy annecdote: Life's a game on "hard" settings, and you're the coward who quits, leaving your team one man down and alone, you sap
A nerdy annecdote: Life's a game on "hard" settings, and you're the coward who quits, leaving your team one man down and alone, you sap
Yes, but that's not what I'm answering, see in the scenario I produced your opinion wasn't answered for, clearly you had a reason to suicide but when your life ends you no longer exist, your loved ones on the other hand are the ones who perceive your death. They're the ones that get to judge it and they're the ones who have to live through with it, because of that its selfish. So I'm not saying people don't have the right to suicide, I'm saying in my perception its cowardly and stupid.Housebroken Lunatic said:
Reading we're biological machines its kinda depressing knowing that we don't actually have as much control over our bodies or even our minds, in the end its all just conditioning and in the end there's nothing. huh... this may be my last post. (j/k, xD)