Poll: Suicide

[Digital_Hero]

Hmm. The people who went through with it, no. The dead deserve some respect, no matter the method of passing. I wouldn't dream of ridiculing those who lost someone important either.

Now, the people who TALK about doing it on facebook or something ridiculous like that, yes. I mock those fuckers to the ends of the earth and back because i've simply no patience for it, nor their shenanigans. Also the people who have "multiple attempts" but sadly there's plenty of long, boring, family related back story with that, but its sooo long and irrelevant to the topic that i'll just say I don't tolerate it, nor coddle them.

 

[Icehearted]

@Exterminas
You should look into "suicidal ideation". It's been shown that people who fantasize, contemplate, threaten, or attempt suicide, even if only as a cry for help, often repeat the process as a means of building themselves up to the actual act. In fact studies have found that a person that engages in ideation, decompesation, or other such "behaviors" are often more and more likely to go through with the act in the future (the statistical likelihood may increase rather substantially). Sometimes it is for attention, but more often than not this is actually precursory to the act itself.

 

[Hendar]

I was depressed for many years, thought myself cowardly for not daring to take my own life. My head was really screwed up and I couldn't see the larger picture, thought that killing myself would somehow magically solve all the problems we had in my family.

You should take it seriously and try to help those that have a problem, of course there are very extreme sides of people that follow what in their mind is a trend. However there could genuinely be people who have problems.

You don't know what people have been through or what they're feeling, everyone reacts differently to things. Taking everyone on the same page is stupid, something you'd shrug off might actually devastate another person.

 

[x EvilErmine x]

Personally i think it's the height of selfishness but i would never mock it.

 

[Kargathia]

When you can't do anything about it, it's better to laugh than to cry.

However: over-emotional teenagers who want attention, and idiots who blow themselves up for some ideal - they're just asking to be made fun of.

 

[Womplord]

Personally i think it's the height of selfishness but i would never mock it.

I have never understood this argument. So, you say it is selfish because they leave others to grieve of you I assume? I think you are the one being selfish for demanding that a person live with extreme depression for which could be years on end and will probably happen again in the future.

 

[ThisIsSnake]

I laugh at the people thataccidently kill themselves doing something really truly stupid, the Darwin Award winners usually. If someone gets bullied into it, is in a depression spiral or just an old or sick person chooses to do it then no, thats as funny as killing kittens and puppies with a brick (sorry for the image).

 

[Voration]

I voted 'no because they need our help' however its debatable as to what this help should be. Generally a suicidal person has gone through so much crap that they no longer have the will to go on living, OR they are the morons who can't be bothered to try/want attention/just want to cost the taxpayer lots of money.

Depending on the motives and outlook of the suicidal person, some should definately be helped while for others it may be debatable. Theres always the question 'why should we try to stop someone killing themselves when there are better things people could be dealing with?'

An unsuccessful suicide attempt is usually a cry for help, because a truly determined person would rarely fail. ...All it takes is a jump out of a high building and death is very likely, on the other hand, most people take the easy option of cutting their wrists or taking an overdose of pills. Both of which very painfull and unlikely to succeed.

Anyway, mocking a person who wants to die has two potential outcomes: making the suicidal person more suicidal, or annoying them enough to change their minds.

 

[goldendriger]

I always take a dig at suicidals if i know the reason and the reason sucks.
"Oh im too fat, i should kill myself" if you think like that, then do it. But if they say "Im depressed, and i dont know what to do" if i can, ill help them, but if the first thing they jump to is suicide then go for it, since its clearly been on your mind for a while.

 

[s0p0g]

if someone tried to kill himself (with a sip of soapy water) because his girlfriend left him (after 3 months), then... yeah, you bet i'll laugh

if someone has metastases everywhere, cannot breathe and has unbearable pain? you bet i'll help them, and feel really sorry for their shitty sickness

if someone has serious mental issues? i won't applaud them for trying, but i'll support them the best i can to get whateer their problem is

 

[Deadyawn]

While I generally find suicide an inherintly silly thing to do (because, let's face it, wherever we're going, heaven, hell or nowhere at all, there are unlikely to be videogames there) I wouldn't mock it. If that is what they want then far be it from me to tell them otherwise. Although I suppose mocking it wouldn't be all that bad. It'd make you look like a bit of asshole but really these things are subjective. If you're allowed to commit suicide (which people might find objectionable) then you should be allowed to mock people who commit suicide (which other people might find objectionable). If I'm honest this isn't something I've put a great deal of thought into. When I'm considering commiting suicide it's usually to obtain something through the use of a grenade jump, which is an entirely different thing.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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Cool story bro.

except I didn't say depressed people were cowards.

I said some people commit suicide because it's the easy way out.

Suicidal =/= depressed

 

[Vault101]

Some people commit suicide for completely justifiable reasons, other people kill themselves because they're too cowardly to work out their problems the hard way.

As with any group of people, there are extemes on both sides.

what justifies suicide? (euthinasia?) and whats the difference?

oh and theres nothing "easy" about suicide, apart from what the movies tell you theres no painless clean way to kill yourself and often jsut in the moment you could have secodn thourghts

anyway what if somone has a mental disorder such as depression? and I mean clinical depression not just feeling down

suicide of coarse is a terrible thing and hurts the family more than anyone else

how ever I think at that point all logical thourght goes out the window

 

[Vault101]

I voted 'no because they need our help' however its debatable as to what this help should be. Generally a suicidal person has gone through so much crap that they no longer have the will to go on living, OR they are the morons who can't be bothered to try/want attention/just want to cost the taxpayer lots of money.

Depending on the motives and outlook of the suicidal person, some should definately be helped while for others it may be debatable. Theres always the question 'why should we try to stop someone killing themselves when there are better things people could be dealing with?'

An unsuccessful suicide attempt is usually a cry for help, because a truly determined person would rarely fail. ...All it takes is a jump out of a high building and death is very likely, on the other hand, most people take the easy option of cutting their wrists or taking an overdose of pills. Both of which very painfull and unlikely to succeed.

Anyway, mocking a person who wants to die has two potential outcomes: making the suicidal person more suicidal, or annoying them enough to change their minds.

I think suicidal people should definetly be helped because theres always a chance they can come out of their low point

 

[dkyros]

I think when people talk about suicide being selfless they see people like the Japanese firefighters that were trying to prevent a meltdown in the reactor by spraying it with water. What they did killed them, they knew it was going to kill them, and they did it anyway for the greater good.
But yeah that's a small minority. Most people that kill themselves suffer from depression or some other mental illness and what they do is they end their lives because they see no other way out. So should you make fun of them? No, try to get them help. This is one of the hardest things for people to do is to see the signs and act on them. Most people want to ignore them or laugh them off, or maybe be confused and think its selfless.