Poll: Swearing and intelligence

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chefassassin2

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I work in kitchens, it kindof comes with the territory. I'm a smart, eloquent guy, but I tend to swear alot because it gets the point across in a quick way.
 

Midniqht

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i swear profusely on a daily basis and in my opinion it has nothing to do with how smart someone is (or could potentially be)
 

sneak_copter

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Assassin Xaero said:
Oh, a little fun fact I heard somewhere... there is a very very slight curve in intelligence vs how religious you are, or so I heard...
It's actually pretty major, at least in statistic terms.

Anyway, I've never trusted IQ as a measure of intelligence. I would like to consider myself as a man of above-average intelligence and I do swear quite a bit.
 

Scrythe

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Do you know what this reminds me of? In an episode of Numb3rs, Charlie tells Don about the ice cream-rape correlation. As the sales of ice cream goes up, so do the number of rapes. The key is both take place during summer.

 

thousandfaces

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I dont see a correlation for logical and creative intelligence. I think i have an above average intelligence and i would be lying if i say that i swear just a bit. However i dont use it as a walking cane in my conversations like many people i know and usually those same people have trouble expressing themselves.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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My swearing has gotten to the point where I don't even notice when I drop curses to complete strangers, just trying to have casual conversation.

It's pretty bad.
 

Assassin Xaero

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sneak_copter said:
Anyway, I've never trusted IQ as a measure of intelligence.
Yeah... I don't really think it does... with algebra, I can do it in my head faster then most people in my class could do it on a calculator, but I can barely read and I have to read it over and over again to really comprehend what it is...
 

destroyer2k

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I swear a lot and I don't mind. The IQ I have is around 133 by US standart, but in my language I have a something like 146 or something like that (and our test is more difficult but is easier for me).

Ow and this IQ test is bull**** as even some people with lower IQ can know more than some pearson that has 100 more IQ.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Also, IQ does measure intelligence, but not all of it. There are many other aspects to intelligence than what IQ tests measure.
 

Smokeydubbs

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I swear because it's funnier, god damnit. I have no idea what my IQ is but I consider myself intelligent. But I don't lack common sense, which I'm proud of.
 

sneak_copter

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Assassin Xaero said:
sneak_copter said:
Anyway, I've never trusted IQ as a measure of intelligence.
Yeah... I don't really think it does... with algebra, I can do it in my head faster then most people in my class could do it on a calculator, but I can barely read and I have to read it over and over again to really comprehend what it is...
I am the exact opposite. Now I shall destroy my claim to intelligence by inserting a smiley.

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:D
 

Fingerprint

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So fucking what if I swear? I'm (relatively) smart & I don't give a shit about swearing. Why should there be a correlation between I.Q. and intelligence? And more to the point, why should it matter?
 

thousandfaces

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Assassin Xaero said:
Oh, and at the end of the day, they are just words... words aren't bad, the tone and meaning expressed behind them is...
Amen bro. When it comes to insults or express angst their are words and expressions that can do it better that those so called 'bad' words.
 

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Darkmaster127 said:
EDIT; i am aware that IQ isn't intelligence- i just have no better way to find a correlation over the internet. (Unless someone has a suggestion?)
You can measure a person's intelligence by their use of grammar. Someone who has horrific grammar is more often than not a person of intelligence bellow that of a nematode worm.
 

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Darkmaster127 said:
I've always been interested in why 'swearing' is such a negative thing within society and never really understood it. Something I've heard as an argument before (Or at least a downputting of people who do swear) is that it's less intelligent, or people aren't clever enough to think of something else to say, so they swear. Whilst i can see some truth in this, it can't be entirely right, as a lot of intelligent people do swear. (Comedians, most notably).

I've done several searches of the internet to try and find a paper, or study based on a correlation of this, but have never found one. If someone could point me toward one, i would appreciate it very much.

In case no one knows of one, i'll try a basic one on here. I apologise for generalisations, and use of peoples IQ's- it's just the easiest way to measure intelligence this quickly.

Just a side note; I'd rather not get into a discussion about weather swearing is necessary, rude or offensive, but i am interested in if you think there is some kind of relation between swearing and intelligence.

EDIT; i am aware that IQ isn't intelligence- i just have no better way to find a correlation over the internet. (Unless someone has a suggestion?)
Foul language is in inverse proportion to etiquette.

Etiquette, or good manners, is orthogonal to intelligence.

However, many presuppose a correlation because of societal stratification into what are normally called "classes". Without inflaming debate on what is, in reality a largely irrelevant set of geographical/genealogical birth circumstances, it is often the case that:

- a better class of person is well mannered and doesn't swear. Upper classes tend to have more money to fund the education of their progeny.
- a lower class of person has no need to impress their peers, or to be 'upwardly mobile' socially, so expresses themselves freely even brutishly.

Consequently, there is a polarization at work, which may lead some observers to incorrectly conclude that the upper classes have both good manners and high IQ (when this IQ is cultivated by their valuing of education, or at the very least, "talking the talk" - ensuring that the next generation develops the heteroglossia (exclusive language) that will both declare them as part of the 'elite' and compensate for their idiocy.

Conversely, the lower classes are so 'anti-establishment' and anti-elitist that they value "plain speaking" and are suspicious and even openly hostile to intelligent, informed debate (as it reminds them of their oppressive mandarin's heteroglossia), leading to "safe" proxy topics of babies, holidays and football.

As a bohemian (artist) I am technically outside of the class struggle and can be good mannered or sweary as the mood suits me.

So, in summary you aren't stupid to use 'spicy' language, but as a good chef... you can put too much pepper in it.
 

ElephantGuts

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I have no idea what my IQ is since it's more or less irrelevant but I can tell you that I am very intelligent (not just baseless boasting) and I do curse plenty, where appropriate.