Poll: The Anti-GameStope Revolution

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lasherman

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freedomweasel said:
lasherman said:
The whole "used games are a parasitic drain on game developers" argument is bullshit. It can be used to target literally ANY product being sold.

Seriously, just replace the word "videogame" with the word "car", or "books" or even "trombone", and you can make a case about how used "nouns" are killing the "noun" industry.
To a certain extent, true. However, until recently, the game itself was the same used or new. A new car is not the same as a used one. You don't have the same (if any) warranty, and the obvious wear and tear. Same goes for books or trombones. This of course assumes the disc isn't scratched.

I have no idea how much it's actually changing the bottom line of the publishers though.
I also have no real idea what effect used games have on the games industry, but I do think that no matter what the effect is, people should have the right to re-sell their bought-and-paid-for games if they wish.
 

Char-Nobyl

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nuba km said:
1: avoid buying games at gamestop
2: support smaller or independent game shops
3: buy more independent games first hand/ if you are going to buy a independent game try asking if the company(even wlamart) sells it.
reasons for the revolution:
1. it helps our industry
2. gamestop is a monopoly and needs to be taken down a notch
3. it could increase the chanses of more original and fresh games coming out
You cooked, dressed, and devoured any point that you might have had when you declare that you should laugh in the face of our capitalist overlords by buying shit from Walmart. That's really sticking it to those faceless corporations that stamp all over independent sellers, eh?

And what's more hilarious (for me) is that there gamestop in my town is in the same complex as a massive BestBuy, a Walmart, and a Target. And it's a small storefront, too, with genuinely helpful people manning the counter. I can't count on both hands the number of times I've gone to stores with clerks who know the items they're selling about as well as they know nuclear physics, and it's refreshing to see a store that hires people who seem like they actually like being there to help you.
 

freedomweasel

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lasherman said:
freedomweasel said:
lasherman said:
The whole "used games are a parasitic drain on game developers" argument is bullshit. It can be used to target literally ANY product being sold.

Seriously, just replace the word "videogame" with the word "car", or "books" or even "trombone", and you can make a case about how used "nouns" are killing the "noun" industry.
To a certain extent, true. However, until recently, the game itself was the same used or new. A new car is not the same as a used one. You don't have the same (if any) warranty, and the obvious wear and tear. Same goes for books or trombones. This of course assumes the disc isn't scratched.

I have no idea how much it's actually changing the bottom line of the publishers though.
I also have no real idea what effect used games have on the games industry, but I do think that no matter what the effect is, people should have the right to re-sell their bought-and-paid-for games if they wish.
Oh, most definitely. No argument at all there. I'm just saying that the analogy of used games being the same as used cars/etc isn't a very good one.
 

Char-Nobyl

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lasherman said:
The whole "used games are a parasitic drain on game developers" argument is bullshit. It can be used to target literally ANY product being sold.

Seriously, just replace the word "videogame" with the word "car", or "books" or even "trombone", and you can make a case about how used "nouns" are killing the "noun" industry.
Hey, man, it's noun-repeaters like you who are encouraging the stagnation of the English language! I make a point to use brand new words that I make up whenever morphatan.

nuba km said:
Matt_LRR said:
Game stop isn't a monopoly at all.

They happen to be the only national chain of specialty game retailers. They are so far from the only game retailers that the idea of their being a proper monopoly is laughable.

-m
game another big game retailer also that is why we have to support the independent retailers so their is more of a competition for game stop meaning things will be better for the game industry.
Maybe OP (and a few others) aren't entirely sure what a monopoly is. See, "mono" is a derivative of 'mono' and 'pōl,' meaning single, alone, etc and 'to sell,' respectively.

See, Carnegie Steel was a monopoly because it bought virtually every manufacturer of note that produced steel, from mining of ore to refining and selling. J.D. Rockefeller simply bought every oil refinery available, assuring that no one could make a profit from pumping or shipping oil unless they first let him have a hand in it.

With that in mind...why can I buy games from places other than Gamestop? And why are most of those places horrid, faceless corporations manned by drones of questionable immigration status or mental health, while my local Gamestop is a small storefront manned by friendly and knowledgeable gamers?
 

Char-Nobyl

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zipzod said:
The main thing that bothers me about Gamestop is their buyback policy. You could return a rare or new game in perfect condition, and they don't give you beans for it.
The same applies to virtually anything. Cars come to mind: as soon as you drive it off the lot in your possession, its value drops significantly.

Truth is, "used" and "new" games are very cut-and-dry distinctions. It doesn't matter if you kept it in pristine condition or not: you took off the shrinkwrap and played it, so it's used. Saying otherwise would be lying. And if you're upset about rare games, then you shouldn't be selling them at your local Gamestop. Ford won't buy your Model T for obvious reasons, but a collector might because they're not trying to buy it from a manufacturer's standpoint.
 

Lord Beautiful

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Matt_LRR said:
Game stop isn't a monopoly at all.

They happen to be the only national chain of specialty game retailers. They are so far from the only game retailers that the idea of their being a proper monopoly is laughable.

-m
Thank you. I'm so tired of people mistaking "most prominent distributor" with "monopoly."
 

Char-Nobyl

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...wait a second. Having actually watched the first few minutes of the video, why in the name of all that's holy does OP think that a total boycott is a smart idea? New plan: just buy new games. It's not that difficult, and Gamestop isn't "tricking" you into buying used ones by secretly giving you them instead of new ones.

But whatever. OP's clearly missed the point of every other word that he put in his post.
 

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nuba km said:
http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/10/episode-41-revolution.html
have you watched the video if no go watch it if yes are you going to join the revolution.
revotlions rules
1: avoid buying games at gamestop
2: support smaller or independent game shops
3: buy more independent games first hand/ if you are going to buy a independent game try asking if the company(even wlamart) sells it.
reasons for the revolution:
1. it helps our industry
2. gamestop is a monopoly and needs to be taken down a notch
3. it could increase the chanses of more original and fresh games coming out
Bwuh?

I only really go to a GameStop if I want a used game. If I want a new one, I'll go to Best Buy where the package hasn't be dicked with.
 

MorganL4

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Count Igor said:
MY GOD HE's FA-

*cough*
Sorry.

No, screw him. Even if I've ever gone into a Gamestop (Which I haven't. Never even seen one, either) I'd stop buying from there because my local shop is awesome, not because he wants me to.

Edit: Also, he annoys me as he sounds like MovieBob, and if anyone ever read the 101 things that make me rage, you'd know that MB was listed three times.

Incidently, it took me AGES to write that list, and I doubt ANYONE read it!
That makes it 102!
just thought you should know he IS movie bob....... anywho for my part I just discovered a local shop yesterday when I went to get pizza, and its 10 min from my house instead of 15-20 ( ever since hollywood video shut down I can't buy games at gamecrazy which was 5 min) so that's where im gonna go from here on
 

Dfskelleton

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I honestly don't care. Depends on where I feel like going, and it's funny because all the game retailers in my city aren't even a few blocks away from each other.
 

Tartarga

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I have no choice but to buy games from Gamestop ever since my local GameCrazy shut down, but even if it hadn't I would still buy games there, and I never buy games from my local Walmart. I swear the people that stock the shelves there are retarded. According to them Kesha and Kings of Leon are the same person. F*ck Walmart.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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nuba km said:
http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/10/episode-41-revolution.html
have you watched the video if no go watch it if yes are you going to join the revolution.
revotlions rules
1: avoid buying games at gamestop
2: support smaller or independent game shops
3: buy more independent games first hand/ if you are going to buy a independent game try asking if the company(even wlamart) sells it.
reasons for the revolution:
1. it helps our industry
2. gamestop is a monopoly and needs to be taken down a notch
3. it could increase the chanses of more original and fresh games coming out
Thank you for sharing that. I'll keep that in mind the next time I go shopping for games.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Yeah, no. I like my pre-order perks from Gamestop. Also, I have about eight different stores I can purchase games from in my own city, but online gets me the perks of even the most base edition of the game. Sorry.
 

essexfuzz

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Blame the game developer's marketing division if I don't think a game is worth buying new right away. Or blame the game for just not being good enough. All of my game purchases come after reading reviews (exception: CoD) so anytime I do buy a game used from Gamestop it's because nothing really compelled me to buy it new when it first released. In other words, if I couldn't buy it used later on, I would never buy it at all.
 

Xenos Eriadin

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There are no independent game shops where I live, so I guess I'll just keep shopping at Game, Gamestop, HMV, Argos, etc.
Wait a minute, that sure doesn't sound like a monopoly! :-/
 

zehydra

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I don't really care if people decide to buy or not to buy from Gamespot, seeing as I've pretty much stopped doing business with them a long time ago. It's not that I didn't like their service or selection, I just can't afford to buy games anymore, I don't make enough money. The only games I can afford are like the 10 dollar games off of amazon.

(you can get Left4Dead 1 on Amazon for 10$!)
 

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Gunjack65 said:
Awesome, I live in britain and there is no massive gaming monopoly here. I needent do anything.
I live in the U.S. and there's no massive gaming monopoly here. I needn't do anything either.