Poll: The Anti-GameStope Revolution

[rockyoumonkeys]

Nothing puts me in the mood to buy from Gamestop quite like being told NOT to buy at Gamestop.

First of all, independent game stores aren't everywhere. I don't even know of ONE in my immediate area. All I want is the game, I'm not interested in a moral debate about which store to get said game from. I have a Gamestop within walking distance of where I work, and the people there are really nice as well, so why would I not go there? Just to make some kind of futile point?

My only problem with Gamestop is their gutting policy. Beyond that, they're perfectly fine to me. Most of what they offer is wasted on me, considering I don't buy used, but they're still a good place to get new releases.

 

[m.zajac]

this is what im gonna do. buy my games wherever i want. the end

This guy right here has it right.

 

[00slash00]

this is his worst argument ever. game overthinker has been losing points with me over the past few months. as soon as he suggested shopping at walmart, he lost me completely. he made a strong point at first about how buying used games is seriously hurting the industry, but then he turns around and basically says "its ok to buy used games, as long as you dont buy them from gamestop."

thats retarded, if i buy a used game off ebay, does it hurt game developers less than buying a used game from gamestop? and choosing to buy from big companies and trying to get target to carry a bigger variety of games, isnt going to level the playing field, its just gonna make the corporations bigger. if hes saying the buying used games is unfair but understandable then this view should have been 30 seconds long and consisted entirely of "buy games online."

i mean i only shop at gamestop when they're having a big sale (and this video isnt going to change that) because i rarely buy games new because i cant afford it, and theres a used cd/dvd/video game store across from my nearby gamestop. i can get 3 or 4 used games there for the price i would pay to buy one used game from gamestop. supporting small businesses, yes thats what you should be doing with all purchases of everything you buy, but trying to help make corporations more powerful, are you fucking serious? no, just buy online

 

[Totenkopf]

The only thing I ever got there was a controller. Just buying my games from Amazon and Steam. Good thing.

 

[ClassicJokester]

Wat. As much as your typos caused my eyes to run away screaming for someone to end their lives, I'll try to answer politely.

I'm not "Anti-GameStope", because the people at the stores actually play the games they sell, seem to like their job (meaning they aren't douchenuggets when asked a question), and they have a reasonably large selection of games, even ones that came out 6 or 7 years ago (try getting that at a Walmart).

I try to go to my (sorta)local Play 'n' Trade to get really old games, games I'm not sure I'll like (so I can try it in store), and to trade in my old games. Otherwise, I'll go to "Gamestope"

So no, I won't be joining this "revotlion".

P.S. Gamestop is in no way a monopoly. Unless they owned every other game store, and forced you to buy games from them. But they don't. So sad for you.

 

[PeePantz]

I find it funny that he actually thinks that this problem is directly related to Gamestop and it's used game practice. This is solely the publishers fault and not because they are losing out on "more money." They do well enough to publish fun niche games, but they won't. They don't care about these games due to business models showing known franchises and sequels make the most money. They only care about the bottom dollar and would rather have a sure bet, no matter how well they're doing. These publishers are starting to become monopolies, not Gamestop.

Do you really think Bobby Kotick will lower the price of games or greenlight unique games if we were to "take down" Gamestop?

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

*snip*

Thank you for making my point. Gamestop is essential for dev's/publishers.
People still buy new, and for a game to become used it must first be bought new. My problem with this whole issue is how people liken it to piracy, which in no way shape or form does it constitute that because there aren't more used games out there than new games.
If it ever comes out that Gamestop is taking new games and packing them as used (which is highly doubtful) then I might see them as a bad thing. People aren't thinking about logistics here. You can't have more used games in existence than new games sold. And on release day you might see 1 or 2 used returns on the same day but not very often, and if the game is a decent game you rarely see used copies on the shelf anyway.

 

[Ken Sapp]

Right before the epilogue of the video starting at 16:40 "If you only knew it was there, would you get in your car or hop on a bus to go to an independent game store a couple of towns over to get the game rather than just going around the corner to a local gamestop or megastore if you thought that maybe if enough people doing so maybe things would get better"

No. No I would not. I don't know exactly where you live Moviebob but where I am that would be a trip of at least an hour and a half to get to this hypothetical independent store spending 1$5-$20 in gas in order to get the game for the same price as I would at the local Gamestop or "Megastore". I don't have a problem with Gamestop or their used games practices other than their offering used games for the same price or almost the same price as new games while paying significantly less for them. If the developers want to counter the used game market then they need to make games that consumers will want to keep rather than trade in within the first few weeks. But since I tend to buy new or from Steam the used game market doesn't much affect me.

 

[therandombear]

Gamestop is acutally cheaper then some of the other retailers around my area, cheaper with about 20 euro or so, on new games.

We got both Gamestop and Game here, and several other retailers, no monopoly.

 

[Turing]

Shop smart: Make use of the good pre-order offers at Gamestop and buy the rest online.
Thats what I do and I work at Gamestop

 

[nuba km]

*snip*

Thank you for making my point. Gamestop is essential for dev's/publishers.
People still buy new, and for a game to become used it must first be bought new. My problem with this whole issue is how people liken it to piracy, which in no way shape or form does it constitute that because there aren't more used games out there than new games.
If it ever comes out that Gamestop is taking new games and packing them as used (which is highly doubtful) then I might see them as a bad thing. People aren't thinking about logistics here. You can't have more used games in existence than new games sold. And on release day you might see 1 or 2 used returns on the same day but not very often, and if the game is a decent game you rarely see used copies on the shelf anyway.

first of all I am not saying to crush gamestop I am saying to show them that if they continue to do things that damage the game industry we will buy from other shops. I edited the main post if you want more detailed because it is 11:43pm I woke up at 6:40am and I am tired as hell so I will respond with a stronger argument tomorrow.

 

[Ken Sapp]

*snip*

Thank you for making my point. Gamestop is essential for dev's/publishers.
People still buy new, and for a game to become used it must first be bought new. My problem with this whole issue is how people liken it to piracy, which in no way shape or form does it constitute that because there aren't more used games out there than new games.
If it ever comes out that Gamestop is taking new games and packing them as used (which is highly doubtful) then I might see them as a bad thing. People aren't thinking about logistics here. You can't have more used games in existence than new games sold. And on release day you might see 1 or 2 used returns on the same day but not very often, and if the game is a decent game you rarely see used copies on the shelf anyway.

I very much agree with your points. And as long as game companies make more money than it cost them to develop, produce and market a game and the profit is high enough that they don't cut their losses and get out of the business then the used game market is not a problem. And concerning the comment about Gamestop repackaging new product as used, it would make absolutely no sense for them to do so as they would not make one cent more on the sale and the publisher has already made their profit when they sold the product to Gamestop.

 

[willsham45]

I don't know any game stops and second hand PC games are increasingly rare, thanks to the ease of copying disks.
I dont care if my game is first or second hand. If the game being held is not first hand it maybe in second and i am not one for waiting extra time to play my games.

 

[Fodogz]

This plan, this plan doesn't accomplish or do anything. It's like rerouting a river to another river to the same lake. The lake is the problem, the rivers are game stores.

 

[Kyman102]

... Question? If I only buy games from Gamestop new, does that count for anything? Because it seems like the Used Game formula is the crux of this revolution.

Also, with my Xbox I buy game DLC. THAT money goes right to the developers, right?

 

[londelen]

You know, I wish I HAD a "local, independent" game store.

 

[Manicotti]

No, because

1) I only buy games off Steam, for convenience, budget, and the fact that I hate having CDs and keys around to bother with.

2) GS isn't a monopoly. In unrelated news, I'm still curious as to why there's only one Monopolies Commission.

3) I forgot what point 3 was going to be, but it was something about how he should stick to movie reviews.

 

[HT_Black]

Andrew Ryan frowns upon you, as do I.

 

[L-J-F]

If anyone has a monopoly or will do, it's Steam. For good or bad.

Edit: another good point would be to buy straight from the developer. That's why I don't like Steam since they're starting to make sure you have to have Steam and/or buy from them...