Poll: The Draft

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Vuljatar

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As an American, I would fucking riot.

The USA is supposed to be about freedom. The draft is essentially slavery.
 

Mcface

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Rutawitz said:
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If you run, you are a selfish coward, and possibly a murderer.

If you run, they draft someone else to take your place.
So you send someone else off to fight, just because you are a coward.
last time i checked war is murder. and i dont like murder. so i would not go to war.
so because i dont believe in murder, it makes me a coward?
Your sending someone you dont know to fight, and possibly die in your place.
thats cowardice, yes.
 
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I've never been good at taking orders. I have too much respect for my own intelligence to believe that others know better than I do, and that I should do as they say.
 

Skeleon

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Mcface said:
Your sending someone you dont know to fight, and possibly die in your place.
thats cowardice, yes.
Wow, unbelievable.
Some people have ethical principles that prevent them from willingly taking another person's life.
Like doctors that follow the Physician's Oath (based on the Hippocratic one), but it's certainly not limited to only them.
One cannot be held responsible for the actions of the state (i.e., sending another person in your stead).
 

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Skeleon said:
Mcface said:
Your sending someone you dont know to fight, and possibly die in your place.
thats cowardice, yes.
Wow, unbelievable.
Some people have ethical principles that prevent them from willingly taking another person's life.
Like doctors that follow the Physician's Oath (based on the Hippocratic one), but it's certainly not limited to only them.
One cannot be held responsible for the actions of the state (i.e., sending another person in your stead).
Sure you can.
Because you chose not to go, which is obviously your decision, and your actions, someone else is sent BECAUSE of YOU.
 

Aqualung

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Despite the high unlikeliness of Canada ever going to war, much less drafting a woman, I'd probably go. Seeing as how I probably wouldn't be near the front lines anyway.
 

Skeleon

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Mcface said:
Sure you can.
Because you chose not to go, which is obviously your decision, and your actions, someone else is sent BECAUSE of YOU.
That's not a valid point, that'd be like a thug with a gun asking me whom to shoot.

For this very reason we have the community service option in Germany.
A democratic state CANNOT force its citizens to kill another human being.
 

twistedmic

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I'd probably be exempt from the (American) draft for several reasons. I've got a kinda trick knee (i.e. it starts hurting from time to time and makes it uncomfortable to stand or walk). MY eyes aren't perfect and I need glasses (I actually need to get the prescription updated) And the Only Sons' Act would most likely keep me out of the draft, I'm the only male in my direct family with my father's last name (he died when I was very young).
 

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odubya23 said:
Of course not, that's why, even in the US, one can conscienciously object, or chose to serve as a non-combatant.
What does a "serving non-combatant" do, exactly? Does he still wear a uniform or is a civilian in a supporting role, away from the front-lines?
If it's the latter, that'd basically be what I opted for in my original response for this thread, anyway.
 

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ae86gamer said:
I'd run and hide. I like America, but I'm not gonna die for it.
Going to war does not meaning dying. You can also die any minute while not at war.