The problem with Bioware however is that all they do is derivative cliched shit, and while they do this well (how could they not, when they have done exactly the same so many times before) they do not push the genre forward* like Black Isle didZephrC said:Sorry, but I did play Black Isle games back when they first came out, and while it's true that they're awesome and Bioware owes a lot to them, Bioware games are better. Bioware gets my vote.H0ncho said:Black Isle of course, they are practically the father of modern western crpgs. If you play their games you'll understand that Bioware's spam is nothing but pale imitations of their work.
s69-5 said:*Facepalm*Ieyland said:If only there were 50 RPG developers. Life would be much better.s69-5 said:From that list it's:
1. Square Enix
2. Bethesda
3. Black Isle
4. Blizzard
5. Bioware
6. Lionhead
Though I wouldn't even put Lionhead in the top 50, and with their recent snore-fest DA:O and catty comments, Bioware'd be lucky to hit my Top 15.
That's you response!
I'm sure over 50 devs have made an RPG in the last 25 years. Now go take a long walk off a short pier.![]()
Uh, yeah. Now there definitely video game developers who developed a single RPG game or two. At least fourty out of your fifty. But this is a best RPG developers list, if, in your opinion, BioWare doesn't even beat them. Then you have a, uh, very unique opinion? And was your comment really necessary? I wasn't even sarcastic, I was serious. You even looked up a website? This is a forum, lighten up.s69-5 said:Here.Ieyland said:snip
Let me know if there are more than 50 RPG developers ever:
http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/companies/fulllist.html
As predicted, there are a lot more
I'm glad someone agrees with me! I say that the original ME combat is boring but ME2's was really awesome! Everyone I have met told me the combat was dull.Woodsey said:Bioware.
They made KotOR, Dragon Age: Origins and the Mass Effect games for fuck's sake!
[small]Yes, the ME games are RPGs, just because the combat is good doesn't change that.[/small]
I understand. I've mostly only played Square and Ware's RPG. I need to broaden my horizons.s69-5 said:Ieyland said:Uh, yeah. Now there definitely video game developers who developed a single RPG game or two. At least fourty out of your fifty. But this is a best RPG developers list, if, in your opinion, BioWare doesn't even beat them. Then you have a, uh, very unique opinion? And was your comment really necessary? I wasn't even sarcastic, I was serious. You even looked up a website? This is a forum, lighten up.
You did question whether there were even 50 RPG devs all time. I found the answer.
Note: I said Lionhead probably wouldn't break my top 50.
Bioware wouldn't break my top 15.
I mean, there are so many good ones that went unmentionned:
Nippon Ichi (Disgaea)
Level 5 (Take your pick)
Atlus (Persona)
Monolith (Xeno series)
Gust (Atelier series)
Neverland (Estopolis ie. Lufia)
Konami (Suikoden)
Capcom (BoF)
Sega (Phantasy Star, Valkyria Chronicles)
HAL (Earthbound ie. Mother)
Origin (Ultima)
From Software (Demon's Souls)
TSR (DnD)
Contrail (Legend of Legaia, Alundra 2)
Media Vision (Wild Arms)
There's 15. Plus the ones previously mentioned. IMO, they are all ahead of Bioware.