Poll: Thoughts on a Fallout game set in another part of the world?

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IBlackKiteI

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Nope.

A huge part of Fallout's feel and success in being a compelling setting stems from it being set in America and therefore being able to utilize and at times parody or make light of elements of American stereotypes and culture. Setting it somewhere else would ruin that, primarily because the developers themselves will overall have little-no personal connection or understanding of the culture and locales of a foreign location.
All that humour and weird quirkiness that stems from this satirization will pretty much die as soon as it's no longer connected to these American themes, locations, figures and whatnot the series is now heavily accustomed to.
In addition, the existing factions and a lot of plot elements of the setting will not be present. Very little of the world outside the US has been detailed. While this might make a game set overseas seem like a great way to expand the setting, it'd detract from the US centric nature of it and could very easily backfire for the reasons stated.

Having a Fallout game set in London or Moscow, Paris, whatever, would be cool if it worked.
I'm open to the idea of them at least trying, I just don't reckon it will end well.
It would be interesting if they tried a DLC pack for the next Fallout game set in a completely different country, absent of any American style or portrayal and unable to draw on what has made the series great so far. Even if it plays really well and adds in lots of cool new stuff, something will be missing. It'd seem hollow or cheap and it just won't feel like a Fallout game. I guarantee it.
 

Flames66

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How about something like this. A Fallout game based in the US somewhere coastal, maybe south eastern Texas. That way there could be one times missions or even entire add-on campaigns based in other countries. Starting in Mexico and maybe even moving to Europe or Africa as well.

That way the American stuff is still there to keep the investors and fans happy, but they get to visit other countries and expand the lore as well.

Another possible setting is Alaska with possible expansions in Russia.
 

Riddle78

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I wouldn't be averse to a Fallout in Canada. I heard it was bombed so bat it makes Pittburgh look like paradise.
 

SoranMBane

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While I certainly wouldn't mind a post-apocalyptic game set in another country, the entire spirit of Fallout depends on '50s American sci-fi aesthetic, so any game set in another country wouldn't really be a Fallout game. It would be a clear case of slapping a big name on the box for brand recognition and nothing else, and I don't want to reward those kinds of shenanigans, so I'm going to have to vote "no" to this. Might as well just make it a new IP and avoid all the impossible creative back-bending that would need to happen to make the game fit with Fallout's established themes and lore.
 

Roofstone

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Norway.

Mutant polar bears and seals.

Make it happen.

Also penguins, our zoos have a lot of penguins.

I would play fallout no matter where it is set really, I love the game series! The country it is set in don't matter.
 

GonvilleBromhead

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Richard A. Kiernan said:
M4t3us said:
The European Commonwealth has been pretty fleshed out in the Fallout Bible, I think there's more than enough material there to make a good Fallout game. My previous post still withstanding.
The European Commonwealth was also obliterated beyond restoration. Even considering the lower yield of the nuclear weapons used in the Fallout universe, the likes of Britain would be utterly annihilated, with few areas in Europe even having a sizeable population, let alone enough infrastructure to base a game around.
Is this stated in a game? As far as I can remember, there is no mention of what happened outside of North America other than "there was a war between the European commonwealth and the middle east". I can't recall any of the British-accented characters in Fallout 3 (Tenpenny, Lockhart) mentioning their nationality (in Tenpenny's case it is entirely plausible that he is putting it on - would certainly be in character). The amount of propaganda in pre-war America also gives the creators a certain amount of wiggle room regarding a European setting, and I think such is doable without contradicting anything in previous games.
 

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I appear to be in the minority in saying no.

I'm happy to have games set in other countries, the more the better really, but the things I associate with Fallout are all very 50's American... It could work perhaps, if they managed to evoke such a strong style which was different enough to feel like it was somewhere else.

I would still enjoy a Fallout game set somewhere else, but it's really the name and it's connections which seem to be the problem to me. May surprise you to hear that despite my opinion on Fallout, I have nothing against Bioshock's change.

Edit: Oh, wait, I'm a bit of a moron. What I should have answered is yes, I would play a Fallout game set elsewhere, I just would be hesitant for the developers to make the game elsewhere AND call it Fallout, if that makes sense.
 
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GonvilleBromhead said:
Is this stated in a game?

As far as I can remember, there is no mention of what happened outside of North America other than "there was a war between the European commonwealth and the middle east". I can't recall any of the British-accented characters in Fallout 3 (Tenpenny, Lockhart) mentioning their nationality (in Tenpenny's case it is entirely plausible that he is putting it on - would certainly be in character). The amount of propaganda in pre-war America also gives the creators a certain amount of wiggle room regarding a European setting, and I think such is doable without contradicting anything in previous games.
No, it's not.

All the "Europe/Britain etc would be totally annihilated" is total supposition, people's opinions on what they think would have happened. Other than the Fallout 3 lead designer hinting that Europe is screwed up there is nothing to give a definitive answer to the state of Europe.

"Allistair Tenpenny came to the Capital Wasteland from Great Britain to seek his fortune, so that alone tells you that the U.K. was also hit in the war. And if he came to U.S. to succeed, that says a lot about how screwed up Europe must be. So we just allude, a little bit, to the state of the rest of the world. We like to leave a lot to the players' imaginations, and somebody like Tenpenny serves as a catalyst for those thoughts.
? Emil Pagliarulo"

i.e. Europe is probably in pretty much the same state, maybe worse, but there's still people alive there that can make it across the Atlantic so there's got to be something you could make a game out of. It wouldn't contradict the lore, just what some fans think the lore should be.
 

MickyD47

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No. Basicly we no next to nothing about the world outside of the US. So they would just be making it up as they go along and probably would lose a lot of that fallout feel. Wouldnt mind seeing it in DLC or something though.
 

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My first Fallout was the third so I can only imagine what Fallout purists thought about the game taking place in DC instead of the usual West Coast. That being said, yes: I would love to play Fallout London or, something similar. Make it so, Bethesda!
 

Chunga the Great

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Yeah, let's take Fallout to a place other than 1950s-esque America!

Oh wait, that's fucking stupid considering how the series' entire aesthetic is based around an apocalyptic 1950s America with some mad science mixed in. If you put it anywhere other than America it stops being Fallout.
 

GTwander

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Chunga the Great said:
Yeah, let's take Fallout to a place other than 1950s-esque America!

Oh wait, that's fucking stupid considering how the series' entire aesthetic is based around an apocalyptic 1950s America with some mad science mixed in. If you put it anywhere other than America it stops being Fallout.
~and yet the ton of references of life outside the country (like Canada, Mexico and even Britain) leave a gaping question of "what's going on over there?".

All it would take is an American central character to perhaps impose NCR/vault values on an unwilling mass of limeys to make it Falloutesque.
 

DrunkenMonkey

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I thought the lure of the fallout universe was just the different locale and how everything is managing to cope with the post nuclear armageddon, if it was always stuck in the US. You'd have to believe that the whole world except the US got blown back into the bygone era.
 

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It would be interesting after all we got a glimpse at what china may have been like in the Battle for Anchorage simulation but part of Fallout's identity lives in that 1950s Americana, retro future.
 

RESURRECTION21

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Tuesday Night Fever said:
Of course I would. I'd play any Fallout game. Hell, I even played the "Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel" abomination that was exclusive to the X-Box/PS2.
wow i feel bad for you but at the same time i got to tip my hat and say well done sir
 

RESURRECTION21

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Shoggoth2588 said:
My first Fallout was the third so I can only imagine what Fallout purists thought about the game taking place in DC instead of the usual West Coast. That being said, yes: I would love to play Fallout London or, something similar. Make it so, Bethesda!
you do not have to imagine i am here to tell you that they had a bich fit about it and still are today it is the nostalgia goggles they have glued to there face they had a fit about dc the story the lore but it looks like they just can not get over the fact that black isle and interplay are not makeing fallout anymore is what is pissing them off the most fanboyism dies hard oh well they are all good games in my book well all but the game that shall not be named
 

clippen05

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Shadow Cat said:
Only the US and China were actually nuked...
I'm sure you guys would love a Fallout:London or whatever, but I think it would work better with some other, different franchise that takes place in post-apocalyptic UK
Also, I don't think Fallout: China would work very well, as nobody would be speaking english, and if they did it would be really out-of-place.
Sorry, but you're first post on this site couldn't be any more wrong. The Resource Wars saw the Europeans and Middle Easterns nuking each other over the last drops of oil, that's confirmed in Fallout Lore. And it wouldn't be unreasonable to think China would also nuke allies of the U.S. aka France, United Kingdom, so actually they may have got double-nuked

OT: The amount of hidden nationalism in this thread disturbs me. All the Americans (Btw, I am one) scared that a series set in their beloved country might travel somewhere else. There's no reason that says the culture of 1950's America is somehow the only possible fit for Fallout. Sure, some themes would have to be changed, but others could stay the same, especially in the case of a Britain or Canada Fallout. Sighting the lore as reasons not to do it is a thin excuse, as the original lore has already been trampled after Fallout 3 brought the Enclave to the East; guess what though, that game turned out fine and so would a Fallout in the UK, Japan, or anywhere else.
 

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The problem is so much of Fallout's shtick revolves around the very kitschy 1950's cold war era Americana. It is wrapped up into the environment and the game. That is the source of the underlying joke. You can't really stage that same thing elsewhere. And without it there is little that would separate from any other post apocalyptic shooter type game.