Poll: Tony Abbott thinks you should wait till marriage to have sex, ladies!

[ImprovizoR]

Marriage isn't sacred. It's just a situation where man and woman live together verified with a piece of paper to make it look like something more important then it is. It's like a moral license to have kids and live together. You don't need that in 21st century. I like to believe we evolved...

 

[Keepitclean]

*facepalm* Mr.Abbot didn't try to tell Australian women that they shouldn't have sex until marriage. He was asked by the Australian Women's Weekly what he would say if one of his 3 daughters asked him about when they should lose their vriginity.

The media is twisting his words

 

[mightybozz]

The greatest gift you can ever give anyone? To be honest, I think giving someone a good lay from someone who has got experience from a few years of different, caring sexual partners is a hell of a lot better than going through the nerves and awkwardness of first times

 

[brunothepig]

Who the hell cares? Go for it girls. Does he even mention guys? Is it ok for us? So, do we lose our virginity with a married woman? Would that be better?

'The hell?
I mean sure, if you're like

Spoiler: this chick

then I can agree.

That video is fucked up! Massively. Yeah, she should definitely slow down, or just stop.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Good way to put it.+1 - And don't get me started on all the Schools that only teach abstinence, not contraception. That's just batshit crazy.

I went to a christian school, they gave out to me for talking to a girl in a free class for, gasp, making too much eye contact! But we used protection, we both had glasses!
Also, I couldn't talk to my female friend on her own (this being alone, in the corridor that is). Ah yes, good times.

Most people aren't influenced by this stupid authoratarian nonsense anymore anyway.
To each their own, and a great big "fuck you" to anyone who tries and stop people doing whatever they want with their bodies.

 

[_Cake_]

Nothing is special about being a virgin. EVERYONE has done it.

If you take your marriage seriously and really want it to be for the rest of your life you should have sex first in my opinion. Even the best romances can be killed sexual incompatibility. A man you love without that spark is just a friend.

P.S. If you have oral sex or anal sex YOU ARE NOT A VIRGIN!

 

[cuddly_tomato]

P.S. If you have oral sex or anal sex YOU ARE NOT A VIRGIN!

This man disagrees.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

Well, personally I'd advise not having sex with anyone unless you care about them. Because if you're not in a decent relationship, chances are it won't be very good sex.

 

[Snork Maiden]

Nope, it's not a big deal. Just let people lose it when they want. What about the women that don't want to get married? What about women that would maybe like a sex life.

In short-
You've gotta test the car before you buy it.

Such a cringe-y way of putting it, but at the same time so, so true.

P.S. If you have oral sex or anal sex YOU ARE NOT A VIRGIN!

Read a website once that advocated anal sex amongst Christian couples in America because you wouldn't lose your virginity and so wouldn't be committing sin. Still can't decide how tongue in cheek it was.

 

[brtshstel]

Well, may be that's why he created the Pussy Troll...

Props if you get the quote...

It's from Clerks 2. Great movie.

OP:
But anyways, I'm all about personal responsibility and such, but abstinence before marriage is not my thing. Promiscuity and one-nighters aren't my cup of tea either but I'm not going to force my opinions and judgment on people who are into that sort of thing. You have to know you and your partner are compatible in many ways, including sexually, before you're able to stay together for the rest of your lives (because I'm old-fashioned and think "til death do us part" should still be valid in marriage).

You know that kid in the Jonas Brothers who got married? Yeah he and his girl decided to "save it for marriage" (though I doubt she did, but if he can believe that then more power to him). They consummated. He says that sex isn't all that great. Oops...

 

[RanD00M]

Well he can just piss off then.

I might not be in Australia.But I think dealing with Atkinson is enough of a problem at the moment.

I love my country and the 15 year old legal sex age.

 

[Lullabye]

maybe we should make like pre-20th century Japan and simply bow to each other, since kissing is also an act of love making.
It pains me to see people think sex is a sacred act. I mean, it can be to the individual, but everyone is different. Damn religious politics...

 

[rossatdi]

On a side note, Abbott's views on contraception are very similar to his opinions on this. Being Christian, he's against it. Does that also affect your view on Abbott's call to women?

That's the most dangerous thing right-wing Christian commentators could say.
1) 16-25 year olds are going to want sex, a lot.
2) Safe sex is incredibly important - and easy to get wrong.

The condemnation of 1) is stupid and just going to be ignored even if people superficially agree. And condemnation of 2) is outright dangerous.

Hate it, and them.

 

[IckleMissMayhem]

P.S. If you have oral sex or anal sex YOU ARE NOT A VIRGIN!

This man disagrees.

That man is... hardly one to be talking about morals. And how he isn't divorced is beyone my comprehension...

 

[sephiroth1991]

Too late!!

 

[Julianking93]

Yes because telling all women they should wait for their man to marry them so they can finally sex up someone is definitely going to get you votes.

What a prick.

 

[Sosa Star]

As mentioned before, I find it aggrevating that people constently ask WOMEN to not have sex. Males have a virginity too.

But the biggest reason I think things like sex have changed is partially because women and their freedom has changed. Most women were virgins when they married but many were married before their 20s when their sexuallity kicked in.

Nowadays, many women wait and date to find Mr. Right, but they have emotional, pysical and biological needs that they may need to take care of with someone they are not married to.

I personally feel that what needs to be said is that it's your body, but respect it. Don't have sex for the first time for the sake of having sex. And use the appropriate contraceptives, for both of your sakes.

I'll step off my soapbox now.

(PS, I am a girl IRL and were this man to step onto Canadian soil and I find out about it, he will be fed to my pet huskies)

 

[PinkAngelKitty]

Yay! More backwards Aussie politics.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott has come out (trying to win votes among the female population) and told women that they should wait till marriage to have sex. The debate isn't old but what I think has made all the waves about the topic is that Abbott, who is a out-spoken Christian (aren't they all?), is said to have fathered a child to a former girlfriend, which makes him a bit of a hypocrite.

"I would say to my daughters, if they were to ask me this question, I would say ... it is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly that is what I would say."

Deputy Prime Minister Julian Gillard has summed up what most women who have been asked have said. "Women don't want to be told what to do by Tony Abbott."

But, does Abbott have a point? Is virginity sacred? Especially in today's world where women are much more promiscuous then say, women my age (18-25 age bracket) 20 years ago or so?

On a side note, Abbott's views on contraception are very similar to his opinions on this. Being Christian, he's against it. Does that also affect your view on Abbott's call to women?

Where did you get this statistic about women being more promiscuous? I highly doubt this. The attitudes towards premarital sex were so different back then, but that doesn't mean that they didn't do it. Girl's would get pregnant and go stay with their "aunt" in some other country for a year, meanwhile their mother would pretend to be pregnant and then when the teenage girl had the baby she would come back after the bump and extra weight disappeared and the baby would be raised as their sibling, and no one would have to know of the girl's shame. I read some where that with the advancements in birth control and its availability, that teen pregnancy is dropping, and that even teen abstinence is on the rise.

Also this Abbott fellow isn't tell the boys to wait until their married. Kinda hard for all the girls to stay virgin and boys not to stay virgin. Unless he's advocating gay sex. I do agree with his sentiments about waiting for the right person. That's what I did, and I have no regrets.