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aaronmcc

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All I can say is...if the working for benefits scheme takes off, it will be a good thing. The number of doss cunts round my way is unbelievable. People look at me with disgust cuz I'm out and about during the mid-afternoon. Excuse me? I'm a student, you're a fucking waste of space who has babies so they can go unloved and you can increase your benefit cheque.
 

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Usurpurus said:
Madaxeman101 said:
I voted Lib Dem simply because i liked a few of their policies, Labour have fucked up enough already and the Tories are twats.
Why are they twats?
They want to decrease taxes for the rich and increase taxes for the poor, and they also want to "abandon the failing north". Im from the north and i dont fancy being on the recieving end of all the planned budget cuts. But them being twats is just my opinion.
 

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There's a suprising amount of liberalism, though, in the schools
Quite a lot of interest in the election this year, too.

In fact, there was so much interest in it that hordes of students showed up to vote ... and the polling stations couldn't cope. Other polling stations in the same marginal constituencies that weren't assigned to all the students among whom Lib-Dem voting is strongest coped, but those ones were overwhelmed.
 

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Ok, just to clear up. I am not a supporter of the BNP I agree with a number of their ideals but not with their members.
Here you run into Pop culture 000. It's like Pop Culture 101 but simpler, for the simple.

You couldn't say you agree with the BNP on funding of public transport in a live debate here. You'd get jeered off the stage after saying you agree with the BNP and then that clip would get broadcast everywhere and you'd be branded a racist s___ because you said you agreed with the BNP and everyone knows they're racists.

I hate the lot of them collectively and would probably hate them all individually as well, but if some utter d___splash is pointing out the crocodile in your swimming pool, there's a crocodile in your swimming pool, whether your other guests have said anything about it or not.

I'd have the Green and Monster Raving Loony Parties in a coalition before I'd have the BNP in, though.
 

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Well what can I say, for the last decade or so I have been of the opinion that the general populous of this country is slowly but surely getting dumber by the day and today we got proof in the finest form that that is really the case.

Now let me just say that I am not a Tory fan, I don't like or dislike them and I don't actually agree or disagree in any real way with any of their policies. So on this basis here are my thoughts. For 13 years the Labour government has driven this country in to the ground. I am not going to give direct examples if you want them go look at them but someone wrote in on of the papers something that sums up everything the Labour government was. 'It tried to create a nanny superstate run by amateurs.' In doing so they wasted massive amounts of cash and improved very little. To vote Labour again you would have to be a terminal moron of such epic proportions you would have to have your vote removed just to keep the populous safe.

So given that Labour have made a massive arse of things what did that leave you? Well you had the Tories, Lib Dems or the National parties.

The Lib Dems were a flash in the pan, they made more progress in 3 50 minute debates than they did in last five years but come election night that was never gonna translate in to any real opposition. The nationalists, well being Scottish that means SNP. They lost all crediability when it became obvious that they were never going to achieve their primary goal of achieving independance for Scotland.

So that just left the Tories, now when you stick the Tories policies in the campagin next to Labour very little separated them the only difference is that Labour have had 13 years and made a total arse of it so logic would dictate that it may be time to let someone else have a go at it.

So what did the genral fucking moronic populous of Scotland do, it proved what a bunch of grudge holding ingrates and boneheaded idiots Scotland really is by voting mostly for Labour. Yes you see Labour has spent 13 years shitting on the country (the UK) in general but lets not forget that over 20 years ago Maggie Thatcher gave us the poll tax. We better not vote for the Tories. So well done Scotland you proved what an utter bunch of morons this populous is and proved that some idiotic grudge that happen a generation ago is worth more than establishing a stable government at a time when the country needs it the most.

So now we are left with an unelected prime minster in power over an unelected government party, at least until one of them bows to what ever demented policies the Lib Dems demand to create a coalition government.

You had one paper reporting that Scotland voted Labour but it looks like a Tory lead government will take command. It questioned weather or not Scotland was even listened too as the rest of the country (The UK) voted Tory. Well the answer is given that Scotland has proven once again that it is full of morons who hold an almost William Wallace like grudge in all aspects it is probably best that no one does listen to what we say.
 

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Shoqiyqa said:
Wedlock49 said:
Ok, just to clear up. I am not a supporter of the BNP I agree with a number of their ideals but not with their members.
Here you run into Pop culture 000. It's like Pop Culture 101 but simpler, for the simple.

You couldn't say you agree with the BNP on funding of public transport in a live debate here. You'd get jeered off the stage after saying you agree with the BNP and then that clip would get broadcast everywhere and you'd be branded a racist s___ because you said you agreed with the BNP and everyone knows they're racists.

I hate the lot of them collectively and would probably hate them all individually as well, but if some utter d___splash is pointing out the crocodile in your swimming pool, there's a crocodile in your swimming pool, whether your other guests have said anything about it or not.

I'd have the Green and Monster Raving Loony Parties in a coalition before I'd have the BNP in, though.
I'm not sure I get your analogy, forgive me i'm rather tired. I'm guessing the underscores are censors?
 

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The Lib Dems deserve a shot at it I think. All parties were new at one point, it's time for the Libs to prove themselves.
The Lib Dems are new now? Sure they might have changed the name slightly after they absorbed the Social Democrats, but the Liberal Party (essentially the same thing) was founded way back in 1859; unless Wikipedia decieves me.
Older then that even, before they became the Liberals they were the Whigs, founded in 1678. Meaning America is younger than the party.
 

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Wedlock49 said:
Shoqiyqa said:
You couldn't say you agree with the BNP on funding of public transport in a live debate here. You'd get jeered off the stage after saying you agree with the BNP and then that clip would get broadcast everywhere and you'd be branded a racist s___ because you said you agreed with the BNP and everyone knows they're racists.

I hate the lot of them collectively and would probably hate them all individually as well, but if some utter d___splash is pointing out the crocodile in your swimming pool, there's a crocodile in your swimming pool, whether your other guests have said anything about it or not.

I'd have the Green and Monster Raving Loony Parties in a coalition before I'd have the BNP in, though.
I'm not sure I get your analogy, forgive me i'm rather tired. I'm guessing the underscores are censors?
Indeed they f_____g well are. ;)

The analogy was that the person saying something being violent, racist scum doesn't necessarily mean that what he's saying is false or racist or nasty, but does tend to put other people off saying it because they don't want to sound like him.

If you look at The Political Compass page for this election [http://politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010], you can see that they've separated the parties along two axes not just one. They use left and right for the economic left and right, from state ownership of everything to private ownership of everything, with "you might not be totally screwed" in the middle, and up and down for totalitarianism and anarchy, from concentration camps and compulsory uniformed service to Mad Max world, with "you can live" in the middle.

On their chart, the parties are spread out as a set of dots:



Personally, I don't think a dot is really accurate because a party might be hard at the top on some matters and right down at the bottom on others, with a blur of stances on different issues between them.

Anyway, people vote for parties for various reasons, including "Me da alluz vorted Layb'r olliz larf, an' Arl doo t'same." Some might vote entirely on the economic stance. Some might vote on law and order or immigration or the environment. Everyone has different priorities. Even with just two axes, you'd have to mark each person's position as a dot with their flexibility making a series of elliptical contours around them, and they'd vote for the party inside the smallest ellipse that actually has a party in it as being the one with which they most agree.

The BNP are right at the top with Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler, above Josef Stalin, Sarah Palin and Alan Keyes. Coming down from there, you've got Robert Mugabe, Mitt Romney and Labour, then UKIP and Duncan Hunter, then Margaret Thatcher, Mitt Romney and the Conservatives, then Sarkozy, Aznar, John-McCain-at-the-start-of-the-Primaries and the Respect party, then eventually you get to the Liberal Democrats, then Dennis Kucinich, then Ralph Nader, then the Green party and then the Dalai Lama.

From right to left, you've got Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, Newt Gingrich, George W Bush, Friedman, the Conservatives and UKIP, Thatcher, Berlusconi, Sarkozy and Aznar and the rest of the US Republicans, then Labour in amongst the Ehud Olmert, Angela Merkel and most of the US Democrats, then the Liberal Democrats, Kevin Rudd and more Europeans, then the BNP, then it's Scottish National, Sinn Fein, Dennis Kucinich, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green, Ralph Nader, Gandhi, Respect, Scottish Socialist Party, Stalin, Pol Pot.

If someone's vote is based on a vertical bar on that chart, representing a really tight economic position and no interest in the "control - law and order - freedom - anarchy" axis, they could vote BNP because the Lib-Dems are just slightly too far to the right for them. If they vote based on a horizontal bar of degree of freedom with no interest in the economy, they'd see no difference between SDLP and Lib-Dem but be nowhere near the BNP, or not be sure whether to go Conservative or Respect. If someone has a position on the US political trend from centre to top-right, producing a voting preference map sloping top-left to bottom-right, they could see the BNP and Labour or DUP and Conservative as being about equally desirable.

Most people will have voted on a position based on a few factors rather than the whole manifesto.
 

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Snippity snip
So you think anyone who disagrees with you is a moron? Bit full of yourself much?

Also, FYI, the rest of the country didn't vote Tory. Unless those 8.6 million Labour and 6.8 million Lib Dem and several million other supporters don't exist now.
 

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I voted for one of the major parties - although I know bugger all about politics to be honest :)
 

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Voted for a major party, fat lot of good it did tho. Brown has the lowest vote Labour has had since 1983 (When they was a joke party) and he's still squatting in Downing street; there's even talk that he might actually be able to carry on as PM!

The tories could fix everything by just giving Scotland independence, but they're masochists. >_>
 

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Milney said:
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I voted Major but only because I will leave the country if one particular party get in. Usually I vote for something small that I actually believe in or the Monster Raving Loony Party because quite frankly if I thought they could win I would always vote for them anyway. I'm all for SOCKS BEING SOLD IN 3's! :D
Sadly they arn't on the Ballot in my area. However, they have come up with ideas in the past that have become law such as Pet Passports. Does this mean mainstream politicians are mad, or the madmen are the sanest ones?
And reducing the voting age to 18 was a MRLP policy.

In fact, for all the mocking they recieve, most of the decent ideas that have been widely championed as good policies originated with MRLP.

I also support thier alternative to rediculous "Wheelie-bin chips" to weigh the contents. MRLP says "just take the wheels off". If the homeowner can't carry the bin to the curb on collection day, its clearly too heavy and you should recycle/waste less.
I cant vote yet but when i can im voting for these guys
 

Laughing Man

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So you think anyone who disagrees with you is a moron? Bit full of yourself much?
No I think people who comment without reading or understanding what has been said are morons, read yourself there. Labour have fucked this country over for the best of a decade and a bit, you would have to be a terminal idiot to vote them back in to power but as I said at the start of the post I have been of the opinion for the last five years that the general populous of this country is tending towards the bottom end of the evolutionary intelligence scale, the general election results only go on to the prove that fact.

Also, FYI, the rest of the country didn't vote Tory. Unless those 8.6 million Labour and 6.8 million Lib Dem and several million other supporters don't exist now.
Oh no really thank god you where here to tell me that, the whole hung government on the news everyday seemed to pass me by, but you are here to clear things up I am glad that you are here to make the world that much clearer... would I be right in assuming you are a Labour voter...
 

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Nothing, just stayed up and watched the footage online. Couldn't vote, since I'm currently in Russia, and didn't trust my parents not to vote Conservative if I proxied.
 
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Turrel said:
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Yes, because the racist nazi party would really stick to it's promises.
that's rather immature. The BNP have only ever had negative media coverage because they aren't allowed positive.
So your going to try and explain to me how, in some sort of pathetic way, the BNP are not racist bastards? Righto...

"News just in! The sky isn't blue! It's just had bad coverage by the Discovery channel!"
why exactly is nationalism racist? Explain, I bet you can't do it without being racist towards native britons.
Nationalism is fine. Nick Griffin has admitted to being involved with the KKK and celebrating Hilter's birthday.

If you are just ignorant of how bad they actually are then I feel sorry for you. But if you actually support the BNP, after hearing everything they have to say, then I truly have nothing more to say to you.
branding BNP as zenophobes is a simpletons way of brushing them to one side,
if you review them with logic instead of simply branding them as racists
then it will challenge the popular view of them.
i find that the opposers of the bnp are just as idiotic and ignorant
and retarded as the bnp themselves,
one manifesto policy of theirs is to remove british troops from afghanistan
a strange idea for a collection of suposed neo nazis?
i once had a work friend who was a suporter of theirs, and he was telling me that the problem with britain's pollotics is the communist left wing liberals in the local councils.
i found his rant a bit disturbing but they might be some truth in it.
the idea that if nick griffin got into power he would create a total white britain is a joke,
it would take too long would be complicated and cost billions,
there's two millions muslims in uk so its a pipe dream.
oh and before anyone brands me a faccist, i voted lib dem lol
Insulting people is probably the wrong way about proving your point, which is all bullshit by the way. Of course they have to come up with real policies, they would never be voted into power otherwise, but at a fundamental level they are group of racist, xenophobic fuckwits. Now before you say otherwsie. Recently the EU forced them to change a rule that consisted of the BNP having only white members. If that isn't racist I don't know what is.