Poll: Upsides to bullying?

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WingedIncubus

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ninjastovall0 said:
All of you are saying it made you better people? how? I dont understand that....
All it gave me was a hatred of douchebags.
By having a reality check that somewhere, people saw you as a social retard with no friends and no support, and pounced on you because they could get away with it.

What's the lesson? Don't be a social retard living in your fantasy, and learn social networking.
 

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Lilani said:
The basic concept of "bullying" is that it is unwarranted harassment. The victim did nothing wrong, but they are punished anyway. I think I could see an upside if a kid who truly deserved it (like say, a bully) was ripped a new one by his fellow students, but that's not how bullying works in real life. In real life bullying experiences just hurt and cause unnecessary pain.
Because the victim lets them do this and doesn't fend for him or herself. It's not the victim's fault that it occurs, but it is his or her fault that he or she lets them continue without lifting a finger, and just eats it up.

Call the police, talk to your parents, punch his nose, bring it up to teachers and principals, and alert the media if they shove the issue under a rug. Make a mock "Wanted" post-sign identifying people as "bullies". Make friends, join a group, be vocal about the issue. Solutions ARE there, but people are too scared to be called a "snitch". Well sorry, when survival is at stake, there ain't no snitching.
 

Zack McSleuthburger

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Not really. I never truly gave a damn about what people think about me anyway.

Maybe it's just that I have transcended above the realm of these pitiful mortals, but I know from instinct how much the world sucks. I know all of the life lessons you and/or any television show characters can ever hope to learn.
 

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I think any type of personal development from social situations will vary from person to person. One person could turn their bullying into something positive where as others will be crushed by the weight of it. There are too many outside factors ranging from environmental to genetic to really be able to predict how any human is going to react to social stimuli.
 

Mr. Meslier

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Nothing good has come from my being bullied when I was younger. From it came social problems that I have never recovered from, along with other personal problems over self-worth. If I could make it so it never happened, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I will say it has given me a new perspective on social orders. At least now I understand how others feel. I remember the Columbine shootings several years ago, and one of the first thoughts that came to my mind is how those kids must have felt. I also think I know what motivated them. It sounds awful, but the looks on those jocks faces, the one that had tormented the shooters for so long, must have been fucking priceless when the gun was in their face.

The more people are bullied, the more other people will know how it feels. It's a real nasty calculus.
 

WingedIncubus

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Mr. Meslier said:
I will say it has given me a new perspective on social orders. At least now I understand how others feel. I remember the Columbine shootings several years ago, and one of the first thoughts that came to my mind is how those kids must have felt. I also think I know what motivated them. It sounds awful, but the looks on those jocks faces, the one that had tormented the shooters for so long, must have been fucking priceless when the gun was in their face.
That's a myth, it wasn't about revenge for being social outcasts, as Harris and Klebold didn't target jocks and whitecaps. They targeted anyone they encountered, regardless of their status, color, or gender, except people they intimately knew and personally liked (like John Savage or Brooks Brown), whom they let go or even urged to leave ASAP.

They wanted to blow up the school and kill everyone, and bring the shooting outside in the town if left unchecked. They wanted to kill as many people as possible before getting gunned down. They had no intention of getting out of this alive.
 
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Bullying has contributed to my cynical and misanthropic nature, which has pushed me to give up the idea of college and enlist in the Marines. Oorah! I figure leave college for the normal, well-adjusted types. I consider that a positive, but some others might disagree.

I don't have a problem with physical bullying. I see it as a chance to bash someone's face in. It's the pointless bullying that goes on behind my back that I have no patience for. If someone has a problem with me, I want them to be direct about it instead of going behind my back and saying things when we've never said two words to each other.
 

Lilani

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WingedIncubus said:
Lilani said:
The basic concept of "bullying" is that it is unwarranted harassment. The victim did nothing wrong, but they are punished anyway. I think I could see an upside if a kid who truly deserved it (like say, a bully) was ripped a new one by his fellow students, but that's not how bullying works in real life. In real life bullying experiences just hurt and cause unnecessary pain.
Because the victim lets them do this and doesn't fend for him or herself. It's not the victim's fault that it occurs, but it is his or her fault that he or she lets them continue without lifting a finger, and just eats it up.

Call the police, talk to your parents, punch his nose, bring it up to teachers and principals, and alert the media if they shove the issue under a rug. Make a mock "Wanted" post-sign identifying people as "bullies". Make friends, join a group, be vocal about the issue. Solutions ARE there, but people are too scared to be called a "snitch". Well sorry, when survival is at stake, there ain't no snitching.
What a cop out of an excuse. Have you ever even been bullied before? Do you actually expect these children and young adolescents to handle situations like this exactly as an adult would? A lot of times, the bullies are the ones who are endeared by teachers. They're the charismatic ones, or the athletes. There were many bullies like this in my schools growing up. Nobody wanted to rat them out because the teachers wouldn't do anything anyway.

Also, on the "make friends and join a group" front, bullying is devastating to a kid's trust in others and ability to be open. It gets to a point where they don't try to talk or make any friends out of pure defense. They are ridiculed for every word that comes out of their mouth, and the only way they see to stop it is to just stop talking. I know this for a fact because I was like this for a few years.

The only way bullying can stop is if the victims AND the bystanders do something about it. Bystanders don't do anything because they don't want to be a snitch, like you said, but also because the problem doesn't affect them. Kids at that age can be very selfish creatures. They aren't thinking about the consequences of others' actions, heck, it's hard for them to think about their own.

How dare you say that kids allow themselves to be bullied? That is like saying rape victims allow themselves to be raped. On the contrary--it is others that allow them to be bullied. Bystanders (those who do not bully and nor are bullied) make up the majority of schools, and if they remain silent while a kid is being ridiculed to the point of tears then that is both condoning and enabling. Apathy is the number one cause and propagator of bullying. Apathy toward the victim and the situation in general.

However, if that same majority of the school does not approve and does not let these instances go unnoticed, then it is an entirely different atmosphere. Bullying isn't a natural thing anymore--it is an unwelcome intruder, and will make the bullies pariah rather than the victims.
 

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WingedIncubus said:
Mr. Meslier said:
I will say it has given me a new perspective on social orders. At least now I understand how others feel. I remember the Columbine shootings several years ago, and one of the first thoughts that came to my mind is how those kids must have felt. I also think I know what motivated them. It sounds awful, but the looks on those jocks faces, the one that had tormented the shooters for so long, must have been fucking priceless when the gun was in their face.
That's a myth, it wasn't about revenge for being social outcasts, as Harris and Klebold didn't target jocks and whitecaps. They targeted anyone they encountered, regardless of their status, color, or gender, except people they intimately knew and personally liked (like John Savage or Brooks Brown), whom they let go or even urged to leave ASAP.

They wanted to blow up the school and kill everyone, and bring the shooting outside in the town if left unchecked. They wanted to kill as many people as possible before getting gunned down. They had no intention of getting out of this alive.
I really didn't mean to use it as a specific example. I simply meant to express that I have been at the point where violent revenge against those who had bullied me or those I felt socially abandoned me would have been one of the greatest feelings in the world. Bullying had me obsessed with revenge, and it's a phase I'm glad I passed through. Something that can push me that far is not something that is worth it.
 

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Never really been bullied, but its always the ones that get bullied that seem to succeed and end up being the boss of the dipsh*t bully