Hey good news! Episode 2 is already out. I guess the wait is finally over.miracleofsound said:
Lol sorry I couldn't resist.
Poll: Valve - Taking too long?
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Lol sorry I couldn't resist.
No matter how long they take I will buy it.
No matter how short it is I will buy it.
No matter how overpriced it is I will buy it.
When I buy it I will be happy.
Valve are the kings of game developers.
No matter how short it is I will buy it.
No matter how overpriced it is I will buy it.
When I buy it I will be happy.
Valve are the kings of game developers.
Of course they're taking too long. Just think of how they don't get episodic gaming right. but then again, it's not a bug, it's a feature, as they say.
They do a lot of play testing, and with that I really mean A LOT - I suppose hardly anyone is that serious about that. If a Valve game comes out, it's gameplay is a shining example of perfectly crafted, perfectly designed game - simply because they do this insanely high amount of playtesting and LISTEN to what the playtesters say. Play "Portal" with the dev comments on, and you'll see what I mean.
But I guess that's only a tiny piece of the puzzle. More important is, I guess, their structure. Or rather the relative lack of it. At Valve, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as a position or a specific job anyone has - everybody there seems to be involved in a lot. That's really good for the games they're making, because the final product has had A LOT of input - but of course, it's anything but a time-efficient method of making a game.
These two things are, I guess, what makes Valve so slow at developing games - and it's what makes their games so great. Can't have one without the other, it seems.
They do a lot of play testing, and with that I really mean A LOT - I suppose hardly anyone is that serious about that. If a Valve game comes out, it's gameplay is a shining example of perfectly crafted, perfectly designed game - simply because they do this insanely high amount of playtesting and LISTEN to what the playtesters say. Play "Portal" with the dev comments on, and you'll see what I mean.
But I guess that's only a tiny piece of the puzzle. More important is, I guess, their structure. Or rather the relative lack of it. At Valve, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as a position or a specific job anyone has - everybody there seems to be involved in a lot. That's really good for the games they're making, because the final product has had A LOT of input - but of course, it's anything but a time-efficient method of making a game.
These two things are, I guess, what makes Valve so slow at developing games - and it's what makes their games so great. Can't have one without the other, it seems.
I think they should have as long as they want, and I really mean that - people complain because episodes come out about as frequently as most full games, but think about the gap between half life and half life 2 and they are actually coming out about thrice as fast
Your poll is sorta kinda sss-backwards. I voted yes, just because the majority of that option is the one that makes sense.
Yes, they do take a long time, but they have never, ever made something that wasn't worth the wait. Sure, Half-Life 2 didn't live up to the length of complete and total awesomeness of Half-Life 1 despite the century it took for them to make it, it was still a fantastic game by every measure.
Yes, they take their sweet time, but you're never disappointed by the end result.
Yes, they do take a long time, but they have never, ever made something that wasn't worth the wait. Sure, Half-Life 2 didn't live up to the length of complete and total awesomeness of Half-Life 1 despite the century it took for them to make it, it was still a fantastic game by every measure.
Yes, they take their sweet time, but you're never disappointed by the end result.
I'm going to go with consensus. They take forever to make, which is a symptom of their wonderful development policy that produces absolutely fantastic games.
The amount of time spent developing a game is almost always proportional to how good the game turns out. This doesn't mean a game that takes years upon years to make is going to be great, but it helps.
The two companies who spend the longest developing their games are Blizzard and Valve. They've also got pretty much the best games on the market.
The two companies who spend the longest developing their games are Blizzard and Valve. They've also got pretty much the best games on the market.
good example of this..hmmm..ah!
fable 2 =[
yes a game needs hours and work into it and hopefully when the product comes out of it you get what they said it would be...however
its not always like that..~coughs~ fable 2 ~coughs~
fable 2 =[
yes a game needs hours and work into it and hopefully when the product comes out of it you get what they said it would be...however
its not always like that..~coughs~ fable 2 ~coughs~
Valve are gunning for quality. And when I mean gunning I mean like, well, a friggin Death star or something.
Metaphor aside, Valve have quite a few projects going at the moment, with TF updates, Half-life 2 ep 3, Portal 2 and talk about L4D updates all in development. Cut them some slack. Quality takes time.
Metaphor aside, Valve have quite a few projects going at the moment, with TF updates, Half-life 2 ep 3, Portal 2 and talk about L4D updates all in development. Cut them some slack. Quality takes time.
I hate the amount of time I have to wait for a new Valve game, but all that does is build my anticipation.
And their games never dissapoint, so I'll sit back, shut up, and wait!
EDIT: And yeah, your poll, dude? It makes no sense. At all.
And their games never dissapoint, so I'll sit back, shut up, and wait!
EDIT: And yeah, your poll, dude? It makes no sense. At all.
Yes but it's always worth the wait. Quality, not quantity... or quality, not how fast you release games.