Poll: Violent Game Law Goes To Supreme Court
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I don't know, it's kind of a tough issue. On one hand, I'm not so worried about the violence as much as the adult subject matter/disturbing images etc. in M rated games that children would be poor equipped to understand without parental supervision. So no, I really don't think that they should have access to them without parental guidance as a rule.
However, by enforcing and regulating rules regarding the purchase of these games -- based on ratings that are supposed to be suggestions rather than hard rules -- it's just encouraging parents to be more and more lazy in the raising of their children. Why talk to your kids or try to be a part of their lives if the government will watch them for you, even though the government does a shittier job than the parents? It seems like a really popular trend for parents to dump their kids off on the school system, television, video games etc. rather than trying to take an active role in their lives. The only thing that fining stores for selling M rated games to minors would do, would be to make it easier for parents to ignore their children's lives to an even greater extent. It would be just another safety net for bad parenting.
What we need to be doing is emphasizing personal responsibility rather than enforcing rules and regulations regarding media of any form. If your child brings home an M rated game, offensive music, R rated movies or what-have-you, the parents should be the ones to blame for failing to notice, and set appropriate rules and boundaries regarding such media. This is NOT a public health issue, it's a domestic issue, and the government has no place in it whatsoever.
However, by enforcing and regulating rules regarding the purchase of these games -- based on ratings that are supposed to be suggestions rather than hard rules -- it's just encouraging parents to be more and more lazy in the raising of their children. Why talk to your kids or try to be a part of their lives if the government will watch them for you, even though the government does a shittier job than the parents? It seems like a really popular trend for parents to dump their kids off on the school system, television, video games etc. rather than trying to take an active role in their lives. The only thing that fining stores for selling M rated games to minors would do, would be to make it easier for parents to ignore their children's lives to an even greater extent. It would be just another safety net for bad parenting.
What we need to be doing is emphasizing personal responsibility rather than enforcing rules and regulations regarding media of any form. If your child brings home an M rated game, offensive music, R rated movies or what-have-you, the parents should be the ones to blame for failing to notice, and set appropriate rules and boundaries regarding such media. This is NOT a public health issue, it's a domestic issue, and the government has no place in it whatsoever.
I think it would be good if game stores checked ID when selling games.
It would break down the argument of "Kids are going to end up with R18 games anyway, so we shouldn't have them in our country!"
It would break down the argument of "Kids are going to end up with R18 games anyway, so we shouldn't have them in our country!"
HOPEFULLY this will decrease those toddlers player ratio.
They really should be out doing something while they still have that cocky, high-spirit about things.
They really should be out doing something while they still have that cocky, high-spirit about things.
I hate all this protecting kids from sex, drugs and violence. As a south park episode said, the one with the phonix monkey, "Wow, they protected her so long she turned into a whore" 
Honestly, I'm 17 now so I don't care. But ask me a year ago and I'd say it's outragous. Last year I saw R and X rated movies, watched porn, and smoked cigarettes, but I couldn't buy ODST. I've been playing M rated games since I was 8 and hearing all the kids that sound 5 on call of duty parents are getting them for their kids anyway. Once your like 15 you become mature enough to play any game you want. It's stupid to make kids run out to the car and drag their parents into a Gamestop to allow it.
This strikes me as another case of parents wanting the rest of the world to raise their kids for them. Raising kids isn't easy, I get that. It still is the responsibility of the parents, not the fucking retailers or the government.
When I was a kid (god that statement makes me feel old) I would watch R rated movies all the time, and games didn't even have ratings. Did my parents know what I was doing? Of course they fucking did, they drove me to the theater and game store. I paid for the stuff myself, but they knew what I was doing; they could have said no; they didn't. R rated movies and M rated games don't make a kid go bad; bad parenting does.
When I was a kid (god that statement makes me feel old) I would watch R rated movies all the time, and games didn't even have ratings. Did my parents know what I was doing? Of course they fucking did, they drove me to the theater and game store. I paid for the stuff myself, but they knew what I was doing; they could have said no; they didn't. R rated movies and M rated games don't make a kid go bad; bad parenting does.
If a game says 18+ then no llosa Gould be allowed to purchase the game. And I a child is able to purchase it then the store should be held responsible.
Hrm, well it seems that no matter the outcome of this case, game distribution to minors will remain the same. If the minors cannot buy the game, the parents or legal guardian will most likely oblige in purchasing it for them. Therefore, if this case passes then there will be an increase in parents buying the games for them, if it fails then it stays the same as is.
However, the local Gamestop where I acquire my games enforces a strict M rating policy that is being debated here. As me being 16, my mother or father has to be present for the purchase.
I don't mind though, since I am a horrible driver >.>
However, the local Gamestop where I acquire my games enforces a strict M rating policy that is being debated here. As me being 16, my mother or father has to be present for the purchase.
I don't mind though, since I am a horrible driver >.>
Well, in my opinion they should either fine the retailers...
Or fine the parents.
Honestly? I think they should fine the parents. They're the ones who keep fueling the fire for the argument against violent video games simply because they don't want to place the blame on themselves. It is their fault that their child is playing an adult rated game. The child does not have A) The money to buy the game, B) The ID to purchase an M rated game, and C) It's the parent's fault for not noticing blood and guts being spewed on the TV.
Or fine the parents.
Honestly? I think they should fine the parents. They're the ones who keep fueling the fire for the argument against violent video games simply because they don't want to place the blame on themselves. It is their fault that their child is playing an adult rated game. The child does not have A) The money to buy the game, B) The ID to purchase an M rated game, and C) It's the parent's fault for not noticing blood and guts being spewed on the TV.
I really don't see what the big problem is, I have played every single shooter and hack-n-slasher I have wanted to get my hands on since I got a decent PC 7 years ago when I was 13 and I really haven't felt the urge to bring a machine gun to the local mall so far. I might kill you if you touch my morning coffee though
You do not...want to touch...my...morning coffee...
You do not...want to touch...my...morning coffee...
I don't think this law would accomplish anything. It's not really dangerous, so I don't mind it, but it won't accomplish anything. The problem isn't 16 or 17-year-olds--folks who're old enough to drive to Gamestop without their mommies but are still "minors"--picking up Grand Theft Auto, it's negligent parents picking up games for their eight-year-olds without paying attention to what they're buying or what the kid's playing--or who they play with. Even then I'm not convinced violent games are such a big deal. Kids from generations before mine were eating up gory horror movies like crazy, they turned out just fine.
Your M rating is 17+??? Wow, that threw me off for a second, as our M rating is 15+, and we don't have higher because we haven't got R ratings yet.Julianking93 said:
OT: Maybe start with a warning, some people don't take laws seriously until someone goes 'Oi! Stop that, or we'll cost your business large sums of money', and if they don't stop then, fine them, seeing as a warning wasn't enough.
Are you American? The only laws I've ever heard about regarding R rated movies and kids was not letting them in the theater. And at that, I've understood it as policy so that the parents don't get mad at the theater and not so much as a law to fine theaters who violate it. I've never heard anything regarding the sales of DVDs to minors. Ever.armaina said:
And really, you think that a kid wouldn't try to buy a R rated movie just because they know they aren't allowed? That doesn't stop them from buying M rated games, why would it stop them from R rated movies? I'd blame that on lack of interest really, because 9 year olds are more interested in seeing Hanna Montana in Fairy Land 3 than Saw 10: Hack Harder.