Poll: War good or not

[IronDuke]

I think we need a good war every now and then to whip the PETA freaks back into perspective of what an issue actually is.

It brings people together, if nothing else.

By this logic we should throw nukes around so the people who think "normal" war is bad sees what an issue actually is.

We don't need to show PETA anything, they're fanatics and won't listen to anything, especially if it's sane or logical. We should just ignore them when they rant about stupid stuff and punish them when they do criminal stuff.

God damnit, how can you people never seem to understand when I'm being facetious. From now on, if it sounds outrageous, assume I meant it to sound outrageous.

 

[IronDuke]

ok well because of glitchs im not sure you recieved a quote message so i will say it again

i know the issues of war im just trying to get you to say "animal rights dont matter because they dont matter to me"

Well it really would have helped if you knew how to type, use grammar and actually ask a question. You didn't make it clear what you wanted to know.

Animal rights matter, but PETA are just idiots about it. Absolutely uncontrollable idiots.

 

[Thamous]

Wars, the reasons why they happen and the effect they have are so intricate and complex that I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the whole picture. Everyone has their own personal agenda, and even the war for a "good" reason has a cause. One can for example say that WW2 happened because the German people were oppressed after the Allies had won WW1, and that WW2 was a reaction to this oppression. Hitler came to power because of how the "Allies" (Can't remember if the winning side of WW1 had a name, like in WW2, but bear with me here) treated the German people. But that's just one side of it.

Asking if war is good or not isn't the question that ought to be asked - we should ask whether it is necessary or not. War unites, and divides. Nothing will bring people closer than a common enemy, and nothing will bring them further apart than being enemies.

What we really need are for aliens to invade us, and give us a global sense of unity.

50% joke, 50% sad truth.

Soon, our weapons will become so advanced that using them could destroy the earth, we're going to have to scrap the idea sooner or later... Or just die from the radiation filled doom. Still, war is intresting (To me atleast <_<)I'll just hope that my apocolypse doesn't happen in my lifetime. ^_^

As it is know, we could "destroy" the world with the right application of nuclear weapons, but our collective interest in keeping the earth intact and thus alive has kept that from happening, and it will stay that way until planets become expendable(that may not be the best word, but it was the only thing it could come up with), which will be a very long time from now.

 

[MaskedMori]

Wars, the reasons why they happen and the effect they have are so intricate and complex that I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the whole picture. Everyone has their own personal agenda, and even the war for a "good" reason has a cause. One can for example say that WW2 happened because the German people were oppressed after the Allies had won WW1, and that WW2 was a reaction to this oppression. Hitler came to power because of how the "Allies" (Can't remember if the winning side of WW1 had a name, like in WW2, but bear with me here) treated the German people. But that's just one side of it.

Asking if war is good or not isn't the question that ought to be asked - we should ask whether it is necessary or not. War unites, and divides. Nothing will bring people closer than a common enemy, and nothing will bring them further apart than being enemies.

What we really need are for aliens to invade us, and give us a global sense of unity.

50% joke, 50% sad truth.

Soon, our weapons will become so advanced that using them could destroy the earth, we're going to have to scrap the idea sooner or later... Or just die from the radiation filled doom. Still, war is intresting (To me atleast <_<)I'll just hope that my apocolypse doesn't happen in my lifetime. ^_^

As it is know, we could "destroy" the world with the right application of nuclear weapons, but our collective interest in keeping the earth intact and thus alive has kept that from happening, and it will stay that way until planets become expendable(that may not be the best word, but it was the only thing it could come up with), which will be a very long time from now.

There is always something more deadly than the last weapon innovation. *Shrug* Once every nation gets nukes war is going to be majorly devastating. If our collective interests were strong then war would be obsolete and nuklear weapons would have been scrapped, patriotism is a major problem for that aswell. If you love your country you're most likely going to hate others (I mean Patriotic love, give your life for it n' all).Eh... might not be a "Very long time" for the world to become expendable if Global Warming is true. Hmm... Maybe I should start a thread on that... I had a really solid argument for it... Nah, probably done before anyways. Annnnyways, I'm pretty sure nukes are going to be a even bigger problem then they already are when/if WWIII starts.

 

[Contun]

War can end and create so many problems.

 

[Thamous]

Wars, the reasons why they happen and the effect they have are so intricate and complex that I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the whole picture. Everyone has their own personal agenda, and even the war for a "good" reason has a cause. One can for example say that WW2 happened because the German people were oppressed after the Allies had won WW1, and that WW2 was a reaction to this oppression. Hitler came to power because of how the "Allies" (Can't remember if the winning side of WW1 had a name, like in WW2, but bear with me here) treated the German people. But that's just one side of it.

Asking if war is good or not isn't the question that ought to be asked - we should ask whether it is necessary or not. War unites, and divides. Nothing will bring people closer than a common enemy, and nothing will bring them further apart than being enemies.

What we really need are for aliens to invade us, and give us a global sense of unity.

50% joke, 50% sad truth.

Soon, our weapons will become so advanced that using them could destroy the earth, we're going to have to scrap the idea sooner or later... Or just die from the radiation filled doom. Still, war is intresting (To me atleast <_<)I'll just hope that my apocolypse doesn't happen in my lifetime. ^_^

As it is know, we could "destroy" the world with the right application of nuclear weapons, but our collective interest in keeping the earth intact and thus alive has kept that from happening, and it will stay that way until planets become expendable(that may not be the best word, but it was the only thing it could come up with), which will be a very long time from now.

There is always something more deadly than the last weapon innovation. *Shrug* Once every nation gets nukes war is going to be majorly devastating. If our collective interests were strong then war would be obsolete and nuklear weapons would have been scrapped, patriotism is a major problem for that aswell. If you love your country you're most likely going to hate others (I mean Patriotic love, give your life for it n' all).Eh... might not be a "Very long time" for the world to become expendable if Global Warming is true. Hmm... Maybe I should start a thread on that... I had a really solid argument for it... Nah, probably done before anyways. Annnnyways, I'm pretty sure nukes are going to be a even bigger problem then they already are when/if WWIII starts.

But in a nuclear war where every side has nukes, they know that launching theirs will result in their own destruction so their instinct of self preservation kicks in. This world will never be "expendable" until there are others, and until that time we will never(IMO) see a nuclear war.

 

[MaskedMori]

Wars, the reasons why they happen and the effect they have are so intricate and complex that I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the whole picture. Everyone has their own personal agenda, and even the war for a "good" reason has a cause. One can for example say that WW2 happened because the German people were oppressed after the Allies had won WW1, and that WW2 was a reaction to this oppression. Hitler came to power because of how the "Allies" (Can't remember if the winning side of WW1 had a name, like in WW2, but bear with me here) treated the German people. But that's just one side of it.

Asking if war is good or not isn't the question that ought to be asked - we should ask whether it is necessary or not. War unites, and divides. Nothing will bring people closer than a common enemy, and nothing will bring them further apart than being enemies.

What we really need are for aliens to invade us, and give us a global sense of unity.

50% joke, 50% sad truth.

Soon, our weapons will become so advanced that using them could destroy the earth, we're going to have to scrap the idea sooner or later... Or just die from the radiation filled doom. Still, war is intresting (To me atleast <_<)I'll just hope that my apocolypse doesn't happen in my lifetime. ^_^

As it is know, we could "destroy" the world with the right application of nuclear weapons, but our collective interest in keeping the earth intact and thus alive has kept that from happening, and it will stay that way until planets become expendable(that may not be the best word, but it was the only thing it could come up with), which will be a very long time from now.

There is always something more deadly than the last weapon innovation. *Shrug* Once every nation gets nukes war is going to be majorly devastating. If our collective interests were strong then war would be obsolete and nuklear weapons would have been scrapped, patriotism is a major problem for that aswell. If you love your country you're most likely going to hate others (I mean Patriotic love, give your life for it n' all).Eh... might not be a "Very long time" for the world to become expendable if Global Warming is true. Hmm... Maybe I should start a thread on that... I had a really solid argument for it... Nah, probably done before anyways. Annnnyways, I'm pretty sure nukes are going to be a even bigger problem then they already are when/if WWIII starts.

But in a nuclear war where every side has nukes, they know that launching theirs will result in their own destruction so their instinct of self preservation kicks in. This world will never be "expendable" until there are others, and until that time we will never(IMO) see a nuclear war.

True... I wouldn't really trust that though. People can be irrational, especially during times of war. This goes for politicians as well as citizens. Plus there are the wars where only one side has nukes (Iraq War for example). If we had McCain I'm pretty sure he would have launched nukes. I'm pretty sure other countries would be angry at this, not war angry, but if I was living in UK I would be angry as hell... Same as for here actually... Heh. Well, we're not going to be able to get a clear answer to this because it's all infrences. I suppose we'll just have to see how things play out and hope for the best.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Until the Jedi Order becomes a reality, we're stuck with war.
I voted Both, because although rampant loss of life is never a good thing, many times war is necessary.
Go ahead moral fags, cry about it.

 

[Sexy Street]

PLEASE SWEET BABY JESUS SOMEONE STOP THIS NOW!

 

[Thamous]

Wars, the reasons why they happen and the effect they have are so intricate and complex that I seriously doubt that we'll ever see the whole picture. Everyone has their own personal agenda, and even the war for a "good" reason has a cause. One can for example say that WW2 happened because the German people were oppressed after the Allies had won WW1, and that WW2 was a reaction to this oppression. Hitler came to power because of how the "Allies" (Can't remember if the winning side of WW1 had a name, like in WW2, but bear with me here) treated the German people. But that's just one side of it.

Asking if war is good or not isn't the question that ought to be asked - we should ask whether it is necessary or not. War unites, and divides. Nothing will bring people closer than a common enemy, and nothing will bring them further apart than being enemies.

What we really need are for aliens to invade us, and give us a global sense of unity.

50% joke, 50% sad truth.

Soon, our weapons will become so advanced that using them could destroy the earth, we're going to have to scrap the idea sooner or later... Or just die from the radiation filled doom. Still, war is intresting (To me atleast <_<)I'll just hope that my apocolypse doesn't happen in my lifetime. ^_^

As it is know, we could "destroy" the world with the right application of nuclear weapons, but our collective interest in keeping the earth intact and thus alive has kept that from happening, and it will stay that way until planets become expendable(that may not be the best word, but it was the only thing it could come up with), which will be a very long time from now.

There is always something more deadly than the last weapon innovation. *Shrug* Once every nation gets nukes war is going to be majorly devastating. If our collective interests were strong then war would be obsolete and nuklear weapons would have been scrapped, patriotism is a major problem for that aswell. If you love your country you're most likely going to hate others (I mean Patriotic love, give your life for it n' all).Eh... might not be a "Very long time" for the world to become expendable if Global Warming is true. Hmm... Maybe I should start a thread on that... I had a really solid argument for it... Nah, probably done before anyways. Annnnyways, I'm pretty sure nukes are going to be a even bigger problem then they already are when/if WWIII starts.

But in a nuclear war where every side has nukes, they know that launching theirs will result in their own destruction so their instinct of self preservation kicks in. This world will never be "expendable" until there are others, and until that time we will never(IMO) see a nuclear war.

True... I wouldn't really trust that though. People can be irrational, especially during times of war. This goes for politicians as well as citizens. Plus there are the wars where only one side has nukes (Iraq War for example). If we had McCain I'm pretty sure he would have launched nukes. I'm pretty sure other countries would be angry at this, not war angry, but if I was living in UK I would be angry as hell... Same as for here actually... Heh. Well, we're not going to be able to get a clear answer to this because it's all infrences. I suppose we'll just have to see how things play out and hope for the best.

If anything McCain understands what war causes and would be even less likely to use nuclear weapons(if congress allowed it, which the won't). A nuclear conflict quickly turns into a global conflict because of the simply massive amount of damage it causes, any type of nuclear war will never end well.

 

[Ethereal]

War has done so much for the world.
It has created a demand for technology.
It has breed leaders and warriors and created an outlet for them to shine.
It has served justice to those who choose to cross the fine lines of what is acceptable and what is not.
Most importantly however, war has created peace.
Not permanent peace or a peace that we all agree on, but a peace that is quite relative within a nation's borders.

 

[lizards]

ok well because of glitchs im not sure you recieved a quote message so i will say it again

i know the issues of war im just trying to get you to say "animal rights dont matter because they dont matter to me"

Well it really would have helped if you knew how to type, use grammar and actually ask a question. You didn't make it clear what you wanted to know.

Animal rights matter, but PETA are just idiots about it. Absolutely uncontrollable idiots.

go fuck your grammar

and your are so unbelieveable tunnel visioned its amazing

do you think peta is the only animal rights group or do you wish to ONLY acknowledge them

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

I,for one,love war but i know there are a lot of poeple who dont so im doing a little study here to see how many people like war and how many dont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc

War what is it good for?

Stopping insane people from hurting others?

 

[IronDuke]

go fuck your grammar

and your are so unbelieveable tunnel visioned its amazing

do you think peta is the only animal rights group or do you wish to ONLY acknowledge them

What is wrong with you?

I know there is more than one active animal rights group, PETA simply makes an obvious target for ridicule because they put themselves out there relentlessly.

To paraphrase your motto; wisdom is knowing when to shut up.

You are obviously taking a joke too seriously, and the reason I'm not putting much effort into arguing with you is that I honestly don't care. It's fun to see you get all worked up, but I think it's time to calm down and accept that not every comment should be taken seriously.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

IMHO, war is only good for the greedy exploitative fuckbag companies who're contracted to build the weapons. For everyone else it's a pointless waste of manpower and resources that has to be the most inefficient means of solving a problem.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Well, war does have the unique feature of making people work on new advancements in tech, causing new growth and thinning out populations for more efficent use of remaining resources.

Doesn't mean it's nice, though...

 

[McWrath]

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[VeX1le]

Edit: stop quoteing me please i get it war has some good parts.