Poll: Was I the ONLY one who actually liked Dragon Age II?

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AlternatePFG said:
I haven't gotten extremely far into PS:T mostly cause of saves corrupting and the like, but I think Baldur's Gates combat felt a bit more visceral and faster paced. I wouldn't say Torment's combat is as bad as some people say it is, but as far as the Infinity Engine games go it's the worst.

For me, yeah the story and setting really set it apart from other games. The only CRPG in my opinion that came close to Planescape, was the NWN2 expansion Mask of the Betrayer. In many ways, it felt like a spiritual successor to that game.
Because I like to be polite, I resist the temptation to make this post ALL CAPS. Imagine I'm shouting it, wild-eyed, in your head, okay?

Are you kidding me? Why, why on Earth did Chris Avellone make the original campaign so godawful? It's slowly dawning on me that the expansion is one of the best games I've never played, and I actually think I threw out my copies of NWN2, I hated it that much.

And here you're telling me it's a spiritual successor to one of my favorite games of all time. Is it okay if I say I hate you for forcing me to buy NWN2 -again-?
 

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P.Tsunami said:
AlternatePFG said:
I haven't gotten extremely far into PS:T mostly cause of saves corrupting and the like, but I think Baldur's Gates combat felt a bit more visceral and faster paced. I wouldn't say Torment's combat is as bad as some people say it is, but as far as the Infinity Engine games go it's the worst.

For me, yeah the story and setting really set it apart from other games. The only CRPG in my opinion that came close to Planescape, was the NWN2 expansion Mask of the Betrayer. In many ways, it felt like a spiritual successor to that game.
Because I like to be polite, I resist the temptation to make this post ALL CAPS. Imagine I'm shouting it, wild-eyed, in your head, okay?

Are you kidding me? Why, why on Earth did Chris Avellone make the original campaign so godawful? It's slowly dawning on me that the expansion is one of the best games I've never played, and I actually think I threw out my copies of NWN2, I hated it that much.

And here you're telling me it's a spiritual successor to one of my favorite games of all time. Is it okay if I say I hate you for forcing me to buy NWN2 -again-?
Honestly, I don't remember if I finished the main campaign. xD

I thought it was fun at the very least later on in the game (Act 1 was terrible though), but I do think that Mask of the Betrayer is the main attraction, and the is only tangentially related to the main campaign, so skipping it is fine.

Edit: Also, the main campaign's suddenly becomes much better if story if you look at it like it's a satire. Helped me at least.
 

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Gonna agree with the general consensus that the copypasta'd environments were a bit disappointing, but I liked the game, too. I think I liked being a sarcastic smartass too much to dislike the game. Plus, Varric is an awesome character. I thought the overall voice acting was well done, too.
 

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I was a bit disappointed at first but when I got into it more I started to love it. The rehashed environments pissed me off though. I mean, this is fucking Bioware, they are so much better than that. Also the plot pretty much sucked. But overall it was a good game, we can only hope DA3 will have a better plot and better environment.
 

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No. It was an ok. You know.

Fenris was a whining tool. Your brother was as well. The combat was improved. There were too many loading screens, and they were too long. The story was adequate at best, with not enough time devoted to finding and assessing the old (and freaking awesome) ruins in the deep roads. there were terrible options for armor, the same shtuff as the last game, the same armor with only ONE improved set of armor that actually looked decent, and that was the endgame armor. You can only do so much with 1.5 years of development, and this certainly proved that.
 

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People are idiots had have no middle ground now a days, it's either amazing, or crap. I thought DA 2 from what I played was pretty darn good, not amazing, but it's far from bad.
 

Nieroshai

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I liked it. I think what turned off a lot of people was the focus on side quests and was designed with consoles in mind.
 

Turing '88

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I mean, seriously. You'd think it was Sonic 2006 from the amount of complaining I've seen about it.

I liked combat a LOT more than the first one. I also liked how the dialogue tree is now similar to Mass Effect (Which is my favourite series ever).

I will admit the plot itself is a bit disjointed, and the three acts have little to do with one another, though.

Also, there's the fact that we stay in Kirkwall for 90% of the game, but really, I didn't mind that at all while I was playing it. I really like city settings in games anyway.

Edit: Since my poll seems to be broken, I'll just tell you that the answer is apparently no.
Ok I admit for once I haven't read the other replys so I'm sure this has been covered already BUT!!

Dragon Age 2 is a terrible game, almost objectively which is a big statement for such a subjective medium.

1. Dialogue wheel = less choices. FACT. It's a step down from DA 1. Everything has to be simplified, especially when you add those stupid symbols to helps fuck knows who. Retards I guess.

2. Staying in Kirkwall is not an issue, hell I think it's a good idea. Revisiting the same cave is a little stupid though, and visiting a 'new' cave and having it look exactly like the last 10 you visited was the worst thing Bioware has ever done. (yes mass effect did it too. Much less though and consoles have excuses like memory and fitting on one disk. DA 2 looked shit and still had about 3 areas)

3. Mass Effect is a decent game. I can't see anything to make it a great one personally but you might. I think it's fair to say it's not in the same league as BG2 and the like but it's a product of different constraints and aims.

4. DA1 was a decent RPG. When it came out people kicked off at only 3 races, only 3 classes and stuff like that. "BG2 had loads more options" they said. They were right, the only awesome thing Dragon Age Origins did was the actual origins. Great idea. Everything else was simpler than BG2. DA 2 decided to take this even further.

DA:2 isn't the worst game ever made, it's just the worst Bioware game in a long time. That I don't think anyone can disagree with.

Before DA:2 I couldn't complain if you called me a Bioware fanboy. I Might justify my bioware love but I would admit I think they dwarf any other company for Western RPG's. Since DA 2 I am rather worried about Bioware's direction and I doubt I will buy ME:3 despite owning 1&2 for both PC and Xbox.
 

Zeema

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'you are never the only person

i liked and possible 10000 others liked it so your not the only one
 

Turing '88

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Snotnarok said:
People are idiots had have no middle ground now a days, it's either amazing, or crap. I thought DA 2 from what I played was pretty darn good, not amazing, but it's far from bad.
I didn't finish it because it bored me. I don't think it is a good, or even average game. Am I an Idiot? If I trudged along would my IQ increase proportionally to time played and/or amount I liked the game?
 

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I enjoyed both Dragon Age games. I played through Origins so many times I have no intention of going back since I've seen it all in that game so Dragon Age II was a definite breath of fresh air since it was new but familiar.

I have to say though my Nightemare playthrough of Origins was a bit of a disappointment - not as hard as I expected. I had more trouble on my first origins playthrough (Hard difficulty) than I did with my third playthrough, which was Nightmare). Dragon Age II I started out on Nightmare and even though overall it wasn't difficult there were some fights that really irked me for a bit.

TL;DR - You are not the only one. It just so happens that the people who didn't like it also happen to be the 'loudest' at voicing their opinions.
 

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I liked it but don't consider it to have the same replay value as the first game and Hawke is for the most time just not interesting at all. Mostly seems like a weak attempt to make another Sheperd when DA doesn't need to be like Mass Effect in the first place.

I did like Kirkwall and the characters but the game mostly falls flat in the variation department and felt like a bad hack'n'slash rather then strategic combat.
 

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Both the games thus far have fallen short of my expectations. Its disheartening because you can tell they put a lot of effort into the mythology and the world of Thedas and built it up to be reused for a few games, but in the end the delivery just isnt quite there. The stories and characters are dry. Also the game didnt seem like it should be over the course of 7 years, 1 year between each chapter is more than sufficient. That being said however, I enjoyed the combat in the 2nd one a lot and the character development. I also like this trend of creating a character through actions like theyve done with Shepard and Hawke.
 

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Crazedc00k said:
ServebotFrank said:
Crazedc00k said:
ServebotFrank said:
You're not the only one of course. However a lot of people on this site are elitist PC assholes. I like Mass Effect 2 but the amount of hate that game gets on this site (OUT OF NOWHERE) is astounding. No one complained about this game when it came out but suddenly it's cool to hate it.
"Elitist PC assholes" means that because we are aware of the fact that we prefer our platform, we're jerks for demanding a higher standard. Seriously, grow up. If you play on the Xbox, then obviously you want its games and community to be given attention and respect.

PS. Mass effect 2 got hate because on PC, the ME one port didn't have the octogenarian graphics engine problems it did on the 360, for which reason many players enjoyed the first one more.
Actually I play on all systems so I wouldn't say that applies. Also there's a difference between preferring a system and just being a total dick. I've seen numerous people who claim to be PC fanatics on this site who just bash the hell out of everything else. Also are you telling me that the reason people enjoy Mass Effect 1 on the PC is because of the graphics? What the hell does that mean? You say, "For which reason many players enjoyed the first one more." You didn't say, "For many reasons," so you prefer games with graphics? Because that's what it looks like.

Sorry but being an asshole ("Seriously, grow up" For what?) doesn't improve the PC's community. Hell I'd go as far as saying that the PC has definitely got the worst fanbase I've ever seen. When I said "PC Elitist assholes," that does not mean you prefer systems that just means you're an asshole.
My apologies for the crass "grow up" remark. Believe me, my intent was not to antagonize you, and I apologize. If, in fact, you are a multiplatform gamer, it STILL applies: just to the gaming community as a whole. I understand resentment about PC gamers being "dicks," except for the fact that I haven't really encountered that on the PC. What I have encountered is intense Anti-Semitism (I'm Jewish) on both Xbox live and PSN and not in mainstream PC online communities. Perhaps You think the PC fanbase sucks, but I would say that zealous support for your platform is a lot more acceptable than claiming that the holocaust did not happen. Also, my Mass Effect 1 point was meant to illustrate that on PC, many elements of the game (MAKO, inventory, more open exploration) was not frustrating and limited due to an outdated graphics engine an poorly optimized technical aspects. For this reason, many PC players were disappointed with ME2's simplified approach, and resented what they perceived as a change of direction for mass effect. It wasnt graphics, it was the quality of the game's elements.
Though we're getting a little off topic I would like to make a statement on why I disliked the gameplay in ME 1 compared to 2. Admittedly I loved the open world exploration even if it was just one square mile of terrain with the occasional mountain hopping every five minutes. I disliked the MAKO though as I think it moves like a paper car attached to a brick that moves positions every four seconds. I disliked the inventory as it was completely obvious which item was better then the other and I spent more time in the menu then I did playing the game. This also meant I had to go to shops after every mission to offload useless material. This is why I prefered ME 2's combat as I spent less time in menus and more time playing.
 

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I enjoyed the story the were trying to tell.
I enjoyed my party memebers and all of their different backstories.
I enjoyed the new artstyle.
I enjoyed my Hawke more than my Warden.
I liked the new combat system.

The only things that I didnt like were the repeating areas/enemies and the lack of Morrigan. It was good for what it was but it still ended up getting traded in after I beat it.