Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

[gibboss28]

I wouldnt mind it legalised for two reasons

The first obviously being: Because I like weed
The second being: I want to never have to listen to or read an argument by the pro weed crusaders again, seriously they're just as bad as the anti smoking crusaders.

 

[Crazy_Dude]

Its legal here in Holland but it should be the same for the rest of the world.

 

[Scott Guthrie]

Cons
Teens can easily get a hold of it now and pay less for weed alone
Some people will abuse it to just get high and it can be a downfall to their lives
Weed is addictive, and without it many would be unable to function right anymore (not for awhile at least)
Weed would rise problems with bad cities or streets, relating to gang violence

from mu current knowlage weed isn't addictive like booze and tobacco

 

[Deathman101]

I vote for legalization and think anyone interested in the topic should check out the documentary "The Union: The Business of Getting High".

 

[FurinKazanNZ]

If it's legal we'll have to pay a tonne of tax 'n shit :/

 

[Shoqiyqa]

Legalise marijuana and ban smoking anything.

By all means, eat it in brownies or cakes or make tea or soup with it, but please just don't smoke anything at all ever.

See how it worked out for Portugal? I can't really argue with that. Alright, the sample size is only one ... nation ... but still, it's a hundred-percent success rate so far!

I think to really answer this issue we'd need to build (using rods of wall building from Angband) a group of islands somewhere like the Atlantic, just east of the rift and level with Andorra, and cover them in compost and grow lots of trees with the help of a few hundred druids ... and then build a modern utopia there with two houses of parliament, one of elected constituency representatives and one proportionally representative of the population, and really good public transport and sustainable power generation ... and outlaw fishing completely in a large part of this new nation's territorial water and fucking well SINK the Japs' fleet when they come and try to kill whales there ... and make sure we make some of the islands tall enough to be year-round ski resorts because we'd be raking it in then ... and have some of them as nature reserves with no permanent human population at all ... and then use some of the islands as test groups in a huge experiment over four generations, because doing it with rats wouldn't necessarily give data applicable to humans.

Considering that the LD50 (oral) for rats translates to about a kilogram of 10% THC cannabis buds for an adult human and the LD50 seems to go up with increasing size, I think we can stay well below the human LD50 for this.

Doses of 0, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 and 256 mg/kg,
administered every 3, 6, 12, 24, 48, 96 or 192 hours,
during ... er ...

Assign:
infancy 1
adolescence 2
young adulthood 4
pregnancy 8

0001 - during infancy only
0010 - during adolescence only
0011 - during infancy and adolescence
...
1111 - throughout life

... making 15 groups by life stage, 7 by frequency and 7 by dose for a total of 735 groups of rats ...

... and assess their ability to handle things like Simple Simon, mazes, clockwork puzzles and so on.

735 islands ... that's going to take some building.

 

[infohippie]

Of course it should be legalised. Keeping it illegal benefits organised crime. I should be able to put into my body whatever I choose. I mean, I do anyway, but I shouldn't have to hide it, nor should I have to mix with criminals to purchase it.
I've been regularly smoking weed for more than seventeen years; it has certainly not impaired my memory or cognitive abilities. It hasn't prevented me holding down a well-paying job. It hasn't prevented me forming satisfying relationships with the people in my life. And I can't see it being particularly addictive, since over that seventeen years I've gone without for as much as six months at a time simply because I was too busy to have time to smoke up, or because I chose not to buy any for a while.

Look at my name and try to guess what I would say.

I guess you would say... "Pass the Medic spray and give me a hug"?

 

[SinisterGehe]

Long as it is taxed and regulated. If you are stoned in work you get fired, If you are stoned and driving you get fined. If you use weed you should pay extra for your medical coverage. And it must be sold like Alcohol is, from one government owned company, so it will be taxed and regulated (In Finland all alcohol over X% is sold in Alko. don't remember the % since I do ever go there.) . There must also be age restrictions on weed. basically it should be brought down to same level as alcohol, taxed, regulated and illegal to grow/make yourself.

I'd say keep it illegal, people don't seem to use reasoning to begin with so there is no need to cloud it even more. If it would be up to me I would ban alcohol also, but we all know where that led to. And we did just fine without weed for the longest time so why should we start legalizing it? It is not even a plant that belongs to the nature of Finland.

I say it keep it illegal. (Let the flaming start!)

 

[Walter Sobchak]

next it will be lets make crack legal, because they made weed legal..

Cause I've been smoking weed before and thought you know what I could use with this crack

 

[Bobbity]

Fair enough, but I actually know someone like this, and it's pretty fucking horrible.
ANYWAY, you would be for it, I take it? Why?

I don't doubt for a second that it's very fucking horrible, and a crying shame for everyone involved.

To answer your question, I can spew an endless stream of arguments about this, but in the end it boils down to this: I believe that a person's rights end where another's begins, ergo, that every individual's right to his or her own body is absolute.

Damn, he brought forth a philosophical argument >_>
I completely agree with you on that, but I believe that once you start taking drugs, it begins to affect the people around you as well. That, for me, is the crux of the matter.

Well, you did ask.
I understand that sentiment, and it does have its merits. Even so, you have to make the distinction between use and abuse; users and addicts. I know for a fact that use of marijuana doesn't need to affect anyone but the user, and I am saying this as both a partaker and an observer. I also know that some people can't keep themselves from smoking until their brains turn into sponges. The latter belong to a minute minority, and I, again, do not believe that we must ban everyone from using something because a few can't handle it.

Also, your avatar + this discussion makes me think of this:

Spoiler: Trolol.

Well, you've pretty much trumped my every argument, and that video was pure gold!

 

[l00kmumn0hands]

Marijuana should be legal. Or at the very least decriminalised. There are lots of reasons why. On one hand its a personal freedoms thing. On another, it has medicinal purposes. It is in a lot of circumstances, if used properly not dangerous, and in public is less dangerous (in my opinion) than alcohol consumption. Lots of criminal revenue is from selling drugs, legalise and tax weed and then criminals are cut out. It would also be safer to have it legal as people could know the exact strength of what they're smoking, much like you know the alcohol content in drinks (this point i think is more relevant to the legalisation of MDMA argument). Plus it would never be sprayed or dusted. It would also allow health warnings to be placed on the product, like with cigarettes.

Besides all this, HEMP is the shit! Its natures super plant. Easy to grow, good for the land and a million different uses for hemp fibers.

 

[ENKC]

Definitely illegal. Despite all the people actively wanting to believe otherwise, it has tremendously harmful effects over the long term; both directly and indirectly.

 

[dex-dex]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

 

[Mcupobob]

Almost for all my life which is only a short 18 years. I've believed pot was all that was evil and wrong in this world. Then I started drinking, then smoking, then I finally gave into peer pressure and not to mention curiosity and tried weed. You know what happen? We drank sodas cracked jokes and watched t.v. Ate some crappy gas station food we bought, and damn eating high is like tasting food for the first time. Good old Mary Jane has been used by mankind almost form the beginning. For clothing, medical use and hell even fuel.

Spoiler

Pot is honestly so fucking harmless and useful its crazy to make it illegal! I hate drinking, I'll admit to glass of wine every now and then when we open up a good bottle thats it though. We all have our poison of choice in this world and love pot. The taste, smell, and the euphoric and calm feeling I get. I have job(Lawn work), my own boss but its still make good money and I get the job done neatly and quickly.

I don't have any debt or over due bills. I've never hurt anyone or done anything Illegal(Besides pot!) I'm 100% self functioning human being and I Know of at least dozens of people who are the same way. Fuck my neighbors just down the street smoke and I live in a really nice neighborhood if a say so myself. I think we need to stop wasting time, money, and prison space on "Stoners".

 

[NuclearPenguin]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

Damnit now I want Poutine. Why would you do that?!

 

[dex-dex]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

Damnit now I want Poutine. Why would you do that?!

because when I go to school I shall be getting one!
and just to be an even bigger douche
POUTINE!

naw I am sorry about that.

 

[NuclearPenguin]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

Damnit now I want Poutine. Why would you do that?!

because when I go to school I shall be getting one!
and just to be an even bigger douche
POUTINE!

But.. But.. I live in Sweden! I have to leave the country to get one..

 

[n03s]

Calling someone pothead is demeaning, but please.. anything to help your baseless arguement..
Noone is answering my question about legal sedative narcotics..
Those are ok I guess since they advertise them on TV? Or they are ok because its a multimillion industry therefore a lot of lobbying is going on?
So I am asking.. HOW exactly can you prove that cannabis is worst than valium or the dozens of other sedative pills in the market??

Can someone argue about that please ? Its a very simple question..

PS: I dont smoke and I dont take any kind of narcotics.. but its extremely annoying to see people defending other addictive substances which obviously are equally bad for someone..