Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?
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Ethically I'd say illegal
But realistic I'd say...keep it as is? Sure it's illegal now but people (here any ways) don't get in serious trouble for it. I know a lot of people who do it and they do it in the woods, at night in parking lots, or if they can there own homes. I feel the way they do drugs is better compared to doing it open on the street in front of kinds.
I always believed thats one of the main reasons its illegal (I don't smoke btw) because how would parents tell they're children that consuming drugs was socially acceptable?
But realistic I'd say...keep it as is? Sure it's illegal now but people (here any ways) don't get in serious trouble for it. I know a lot of people who do it and they do it in the woods, at night in parking lots, or if they can there own homes. I feel the way they do drugs is better compared to doing it open on the street in front of kinds.
I always believed thats one of the main reasons its illegal (I don't smoke btw) because how would parents tell they're children that consuming drugs was socially acceptable?
I missread that and laughed.matt87_50 said:
"You died in a car crash caused by you! Death sentence!"
First of all, if you're advocating the legalisation of a recreational drug, the onus is on you to prove it is safe - not the other way around.Elcarsh said:
Secondly, there is any amount of scientific evidence to this effect. Asking me for it is like demanding that I prove the consensus on global warming. But this is one recent example that springs to mind: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3132596.htm
This is confirmation of what anyone who works in a field related to mental health care sees every day - marijuana alters peoples' brain chemistry, is especially damaging to young, developing minds and acts as a gateway into other drugs.
Yeah, and bad B.O., and overstrong cologne, and spicy foods.DisplacedLil Ak said:
Why should the government choose what I put in my body?
When was the last time you were with someone who was drinking, and weren't drinking yourself? You can become inhebriated by a friend drinking beside you.DisplacedLil Ak said:
You could try walking away? There's not much more carbon monoxide, or carcinogen particulate in cigarette smoke than there is in the air in every major city you've been in.DisplacedLil Ak said:
I'm from Holland so....
I don't use it myself, don't care if someone else uses it. Some of my friends smoke weed @ party's but that's it. They aren't stoned all the time. They do not cause any trouble and it's a lot of fun listening to them when they've just smoked XD.
I don't use it myself, don't care if someone else uses it. Some of my friends smoke weed @ party's but that's it. They aren't stoned all the time. They do not cause any trouble and it's a lot of fun listening to them when they've just smoked XD.
If you are grown up you can choose whatever poison to fool around with. Its your body, screw around with it as you like. Just dont drive or psych out on others.
Why should anyone play the big brother on us "for our own good"? Its MY fucking good and when i want to fuck it up its my choice.
Why should anyone play the big brother on us "for our own good"? Its MY fucking good and when i want to fuck it up its my choice.
As much as i love the stuff it needs to stay illegal. Imagine being a child brought up in a house full of bong rats. We don't need another factor to break the lives of thousands. If you want to make tobacco and alcohol illegal then your gonna need a long span of years to slowly outlaw it through revenue raising and taxes. If you all of a sudden just say "hey, your not allowed to smoke and drink anymore k?", well that will just end badly.
Edit: I see the argument of "If they want to damage themselves they can", well they wont just damage themselves, they'll do damage to many of those around them.
Edit: I see the argument of "If they want to damage themselves they can", well they wont just damage themselves, they'll do damage to many of those around them.
I think you meant to say that smoking weed is much less dangerous in your opinion. What you said doesn't make sense with your next sentence.Sarpedon said:
Also, smoking marijuana puts a lot more tar in your lungs than cigarettes do, but it doesn't have anywhere near as many carcinogenic or straight toxic chemicals in it as cigarettes so I'm pretty sure chances of lung problems and cancer are much higher with cigs than with marijuana.
I don't really care one way or the other. What people smoke or don't smoke is their own business, I just wish they would start enforcing the "50 feet from a building" law, because I am really god damn sick of having to walk through a cloud of cig smoke to get to my classes every day. I can't even sit next to a smoker without coughing from the smell, I have to hold my breathe to walk into a school building, how is that fair?
On the other hand, I think if you legalize it, more people will drive under that influence and then it will be as bad as drinking. I also doubt that there would be any feasible way to regulate or tax it, because it's too easy to grow it yourself, and there are already a great deal of individuals out there who will sell it to you regardless of any tax or regulation.
I know I'm the millionth guy to quote you, but I offer peace of mind, not argument. tl;dr warning is in effect.Sober Thal said:
With that in mind, I'm not going to touch the dead horse that is arguing the effects of cannabis on motor skills; in fact, you're welcome to read my post under the assumption that a stoned driver is every bit as dangerous as a drunk one. What I'd like to focus on is the motivation for driving under the influence. As you probably know through either experience or second-hand knowledge, alcohol causes impairment for a very significant period of time that cannot be shortened, often in excess of several hours, which can lead to quite a dilemma for a person with real-world obligations (job, family, controlling spouse) choosing to drink away from home: tell the world that it has to wait a day because they lacked the foresight to designate a driver... or they'll ask themselves if they're okay to drive. Unfortunately, a lot of people decide that they're maybe-probably-kinda okay enough to make it home, and the result is an inebriated asshole swerving around the road until they stop because they're either parked crooked in their driveway or there's a pedestrian gumming up their axle.
Recreational use of cannabis, on the other hand, has a very, very attractive quality to someone with places to be: you can pretty much come down whenever the hell you want. That's not an exaggeration by any means, as a wide range of mundane activities can intercede almost all of the effects of smoking weed. These activities include walking, eating, drinking, smoking a cigarette, or pretty much any activity that speeds the body's metabolism back up*. I had an experience where I smoked so much weed that I began to lapse into a fever dream-like state. It took about five minutes to pass, after which I stood up for a bit, had some water, smoked a cigarette, and almost immediately afterward, I was hardly high at all**. The long and short of it is, if I need to drive home after smoking weed, I can be sober and road-safe in a matter of minutes (this statement remains true under the assumption that the effects of cannabis are equally dangerous to drivers as alcohol). Not only that, but if one simply decided to wait it out, they'd need only wait two hours at the most (and that's if they were smoking some ridiculous week's-pay-for-a-quarter-ounce cannabis; the cheaper stuff takes even less time).
Because of this, I believe it is reasonable to assume that far fewer people will decide to operate a vehicle stoned than those that choose to drive drunk, simply because it's very, very easy for them to be sobered up before they set foot in their vehicle. Hope that's a load off your mind for when it finally becomes legal.
*[sub]Fun fact: the fact that the longevity of the effects of cannabis are inversely proportional to your metabolism's level of activity is the driving concept behind the "wake and bake": your metabolism is slower when you wake up, therefore, your body metabolizes the cannabis slower and the effects last longer than they would halfway through the day after being in "Drive" for a while.[/sub]
**[sub]Fun fact: people think that stoners lounge around all day because pot saps your energy, but for the most part, they're just trying to prolong the effects by avoiding activities that would diminish it.[/sub]
i absolutely loathe the smell of weed and with how many people i have seen their lives go down the drain from making weed (among others) their lives basically, i hate it, HOWEVER
i am for it, there is massive economical/benefits of having it around, if you are going to have alcohol around then weed should be legal too.
i am for it, there is massive economical/benefits of having it around, if you are going to have alcohol around then weed should be legal too.
First of all, burden of proof is on anyone claiming something, not on one side or the other. This is a debate, not a court room where the burden of proof would be on the prosecution, at least in the US.ENKC said:
Secondly, yes, the study identifies a correlation between smoking cannabis and the onset of psychosis. However, this is the first study to provide a correlation. The first paper on DNA structure published was horribly wrong which is why we now have the Watson and Crick model. Correlation does not imply causation. The study also clearly states that is not known where smoking causes psychosis or allows it to surface in already vulnerable individuals.
Lastly, schizophrenia is not very well understood to begin with.
I'm not saying the study isn't true or that we should completely disregard the results, I'm saying we should be very skeptical at this point in time.
Legalizing would be a lot more beneficial...It would take the coolness out of smoking and acting like a douche or being so fly cause you can get some from your dealer.Buying it from a shop is different.
There's a lot more people who think drunk driving is ok as opposed to think that stoned driving is good.I think this tendence in thinking will keep even if it will be legalized.Smoking weed is a lot less addictive(it's all in your head xD) and better than smoking ciggars for instance even if you do it on a very regular basis.Contrary to popular belief unless it's some really messed up voodoo shit or pumped up with other drugs(that happens because it's illegal and not regulated) it doesn't really damage your mind.It makes you think things through a bit more.I can see how that can be bad for people who tend to over analise but how is that a bad thing in general.I should also point out that a few of my real life friends had some serious shit in their lives and took to some serious drinking in those periods to get over it.I can tell you that dragging someone to the toxicology puking blood all around the place is not exceptionally fun and fairly mentally scarring.Imagine how much simpler would it be if he had a shop nearby to pick up some weed and relax before he goes off to break windows downtown or drink himself to death.
There's a lot more people who think drunk driving is ok as opposed to think that stoned driving is good.I think this tendence in thinking will keep even if it will be legalized.Smoking weed is a lot less addictive(it's all in your head xD) and better than smoking ciggars for instance even if you do it on a very regular basis.Contrary to popular belief unless it's some really messed up voodoo shit or pumped up with other drugs(that happens because it's illegal and not regulated) it doesn't really damage your mind.It makes you think things through a bit more.I can see how that can be bad for people who tend to over analise but how is that a bad thing in general.I should also point out that a few of my real life friends had some serious shit in their lives and took to some serious drinking in those periods to get over it.I can tell you that dragging someone to the toxicology puking blood all around the place is not exceptionally fun and fairly mentally scarring.Imagine how much simpler would it be if he had a shop nearby to pick up some weed and relax before he goes off to break windows downtown or drink himself to death.
I am for legalization,and yes it should be regulated. It does not do as much harm as you think. It alone is not addictive, it's not worse than cigarettes, there are certain pseudo-medical advantages, idk i think it does more harm than good to keep it illegal. Hopefully it would lessen then amount of people in prison and if regulated get some money into this shitty economy. There are a lot of misconceptions about marijuana going on and it irks me. It is not some devil plant that will get you addicted and make you do crack and heroin, i am just not a fan of pppl who have never done it preaching about the evils of it. I know this paragraph is rly scatterbrained, i just got up and saw this and wanted to post.