Poll: What do you think about circumcision?

[ProZack]

It's perfectly fine, and has positive medical benefits to it. People complaining about male circumcision being abuse are just whining for the sake of being whiney. Why does it matter to you? If you don't want to circumcise your boys, that's fine. But telling lies such as saying it lowers sensitivity (something you can't really measure), is just going too far.

Snip (Get it?)

A lot of your links were broken there, buddy.

OT: In my opinion, I'm neutral for it. I am circumcised, and I'm not yelling at my parents for cutting my penis. It makes no difference to me. Will I do it to my child? I don't know, I guess I'll leave it for my future wife to decide.

 

[Denamic]

I voted the parent's choice, but what I really mean, is religious reasons. I really think you shouldn't circumcise, barring medical reasons, unless it's a religious reason. I just don't see a point to cutting off part of the dick for any non-religious reasons. Seems kinda weird.

"(10 points says poll gets eaten)" You, my friend, are out 10 points. I think I will use the points to buy a vineyard, out in the countryside.

What if the religion says you have to cut off the ears, would you be alright with that too?
What about the nostrils?
Or how about simple ritual scarring?

Keep knives away from infants if there's no medical reason to cut them.

 

[Pipotchi]

The parents should decide, because when one is circumcised, it is usually while the child is a baby, or toddler, and they wouldn't remember it. There are also medical reasons, mostly because it's a hygiene issue. Really, it's not like a circumcision will kill a child, and it really doesn't have any negative effects, since when the child grows up, they won't see any benefit to having a foreskin in the first place.

But the fact is that some men do regret having a circumscision done to them when they were children, indeed some men use various tools and procedure to 'regrow' their foreskins.

Sure its not the majority but how many people have to regret it for people to stop doing it, 1 in 10? 1 in 5?

Just seems like the percieved benefits are not worth the potential risks.

 

[Fiery Killer]

I am SO FUCKING GLAD that I am circumcised... seriously, women like it better, I like it better, less shit to clean, less risk of infection... it's overall pretty amazing.

Con
It hurts
Children have no choice in the matter
Can cause issues

I'm circumcised and would like to reply with this
1. Nobody can remember being circumcised, I couldn't ever tell you how much it hurts to be circumcised, and I didn't even know I was until my teenage years.
2. In the long run, I can't really imagine anybody really caring. Someone who's uncircumcised is most certainly not going to be interested in cutting their own genitals, and actually vice versa as someone who is circumcised I wouldn't want to suddenly have an uncircumcised penis. You're going to be comfortable growing up with whatever you have.
3. "Can cause issues"? That's the most vague con I've seen in a while, what issues are you talking about?

Honestly, I don't see the problem. Taking away the right to circumcise would anger religious people, so I say just let the parents do it if they want and it will die down. I'm willing to bet that 50 years from now (at least in the US, EU, and other developed nations) that circumcision will be extremely scarce.

So yeah, it really doesn't matter, so just let it happen.

 

[thom_cat_]

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision

The medical reasons are listed in this article.

But again, all of the advantages gained by circumcision can be gained by other means.

Oh but see, this is pretty much bullshit too.
"There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:"
I'm sorry, but there's also "some evidence" against the fact that circumcision has health benefits. I researched this a while back and the amount of conflicting evidence given was just staggering.

It's just not worth it, if there are any health benefits then they're not even applicable to children anyway so let them decide once they're older.
It's not like we cut out appendixes at birth, or people are allowed to cut off any other body part citing "religious reasons". What does God want the tip of someone's dick for?
I'm not circumcised and I never will be.

Spoiler

It's perfectly fine, and has positive medical benefits to it. People complaining about male circumcision being abuse are just whining for the sake of being whiney. Why does it matter to you? If you don't want to circumcise your boys, that's fine. But telling lies such as saying it lowers sensitivity (something you can't really measure), is just going too far.

Em aside from making hygiene slightly easier so you don't have to pull back the skin it has no benefits and causes problems like harder penetration and higher proportions of erectile dysfunction.

In fact here we go I wasn't going to look these up but A circumcised penis is one that has had the foreskin cut off. So one with foreskin (how all boys are born) is uncircumcised, while one without it is circumcised. Here's an illustration:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/19093.htm

When erect they can appear very alike, since the foreskin pulls back.

Circumcision has become less common, though. Circumcision rates were as high as 90% back in the 1960s and 1970s (that's partly why today's adults are so... brainwashed, I supposed you could say, about thinking that circumcision is better) but they have fallen to as low as 14% in some states. Here are the statistics:
http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/staterates2004/

The USA is the last developed nation doing it to a large number of newborns without religious or medical needs. (Europeans, Latin Americans, Japanese, and most Australians, Canadians, and Asians don't circumcise):
http://www.circumstitions.com/Maps.html

Why?

In a medical study, it was found that females are more likely to hit orgasm with an uncircumcised man:
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/60750.html

The lubricated foreskin (on the inside... like your eyelids) slides up and down during sex and masturbation to stimulate the head (which is why you don't hear of uncircumcised guys needing lube to masturbate).
http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

Studies have found that circumcision reduces sensitivity (this article also mentions how it has lost popularity in the USA in recent times):
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,285532,00.html

And despite being more sensitive, uncircumcised guys still last in the same six minute range (average) that circumcised guys do:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=544637F61F0B04BEB5E5038BB769B984.d03t04

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=544637F61F0B04BEB5E5038BB769B984.d03t04

Which makes sense, that's how circumcision was promoted in the USA:
http://english.pravda.ru/health/27-03-2006/77873-circumcision-0/

Increases erectile dysfunction rates:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14979200&dopt=Abstract%7C

If too much skin is removed in circumcision, it can make the penis smaller since the penis needs some skin to expand during an erection:
http://www.drgreene.com/azguide/inconspicuous-penis
http://www.altermd.com/Penis%20and%20Scrotal%20Surgery/buried_penis.htm

Circumcision does not completely stop penile cancer. The American Cancer Society has already confirmed the myth that circumcision = no cancer.
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_Can_penile_cancer_be_prevented_35.asp

If circumcision did stop penile cancer, then penile cancer would not be more common in the USA (most circumcised adults) than in some European nations, where circumcision is not practiced other than for medical/religious reasons.
http://www.circumstitions.com/Cancer.html

And a new study found that circumcision does not reduce your chances to get HIV/AIDS. Unlike other studies, this one was done in a developed nation; the USA.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22096758/

http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

It's perfectly fine, and has positive medical benefits to it. People complaining about male circumcision being abuse are just whining for the sake of being whiney. Why does it matter to you? If you don't want to circumcise your boys, that's fine. But telling lies such as saying it lowers sensitivity (something you can't really measure), is just going too far.

Snip (Get it?)

A lot of your links were broken there, buddy.

OT: In my opinion, I'm neutral for it. I am circumcised, and I'm not yelling at my parents for cutting my penis. It makes no difference to me. Will I do it to my child? I don't know, I guess I'll leave it for my future wife to decide.

That was a copy paste from an old post it didn't work right most are fine now but one of the links was gone from source.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

My folks had me circumcised when I was an infant and frankly I'm glad they did. The hygienic reasons aside, it's a redundant body part, like the appendix, an evolutionary vestige. I've never had 'erectile dysfunction' or problems masturbating, though I have heard plenty of hilarious stories about women turned off by creepy dog dorks, and none of them involve an appreciation for smegma buildup.

So, have fun cleaning it with a Q-tip, turtlenecks.

 

[Scabadus]

If I grabbed a knife and walked down the street cutting up people's penises I'd be locked away, why should the reaction be any different if the victim is a small, defenceless person who's not able to even think for themselves and on top of that is UNDER YOUR FUCKING CARE?!

What an adult does to their own body is their business, but parents who do this should have their kids taken away. If they do the circumsition for religious reasons they should never get the kids back: in 2011 do we really want to still be living in a society where belief in a magical sky-man still automatically overrides medical evidence of possible infection (not to mention the possible effects on sex life) and basic human rights to a person's own body because nobody is "allowed" to question religion since it's belief and opinion? Circumcision is surgery, all surgery carries an inheriant risk.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

My folks circumcised me when I was born and frankly I'm glad they did. The hygienic reasons aside, it's a redundant body part, like the appendix, an evolutionary vestige. I've never had 'erectile dysfunction' or problems masturbating, though I have heard plenty of hilarious stories about women turned off by creepy dog dorks, and none of them involve an appreciation for smegma buildup.

So, have fun cleaning it with a Q-tip, turtlenecks.

And there went the maturity of the thread it was a good run.

 

[Shodan1980]

Fun story: There was an outbreak of genital infections in Jewish infants in New York a few years ago and nobody could work out why. Turns out it was coming from a rabbi that was performing brises (sp. on the plural?) then sucking off the removed foreskin as is traditional, and when he did so he was passing on the delightful viruses and bacteria in his mouth and infecting the penises of toddlers and babies. Yay circumcision for no reason!

Its a procedure with a very high complication rate and no medical benefit whatsoever. If somebody was going round removing children's second kidney for no other reason than "its tradition" you'd think them crazy. Like others said, if you want to do it as an adult, feel free, all power to your elbow (as they say in the North of Scotland). But mutilating a child for no real reason is still mutilating a child for no real reason whether they notice at the time or not

 

[SnakeoilSage]

And there went the maturity of the thread it was a good run.

Don't pretend there was any to begin with.

 

[Pipotchi]

My folks circumcised me when I was born and frankly I'm glad they did. The hygienic reasons aside, it's a redundant body part, like the appendix, an evolutionary vestige. I've never had 'erectile dysfunction' or problems masturbating, though I have heard plenty of hilarious stories about women turned off by creepy dog dorks, and none of them involve an appreciation for smegma buildup.

So, have fun cleaning it with a Q-tip, turtlenecks.

If you have to clean your genitals with a Q-tip then you might have issues with the size, as an uncircumscised man I just wash it in the shower

 

[Seives-Sliver]

The parents should decide, because when one is circumcised, it is usually while the child is a baby, or toddler, and they wouldn't remember it. There are also medical reasons, mostly because it's a hygiene issue. Really, it's not like a circumcision will kill a child, and it really doesn't have any negative effects, since when the child grows up, they won't see any benefit to having a foreskin in the first place.

But the fact is that some men do regret having a circumscision done to them when they were children, indeed some men use various tools and procedure to 'regrow' their foreskins.

Sure its not the majority but how many people have to regret it for people to stop doing it, 1 in 10? 1 in 5?

Just seems like the percieved benefits are not worth the potential risks.

Well, not much can be done about that really, if someone is circumcised, it really doesn't change much. There is kind of an underlying message to be made really, that it'll take away how much control a parent has over their own child, we're already kind of seeing the starting of it, with people being called abusers for spanking their children.

Even this is kind of getting out of hand, circumcision isn't mutilation, it doesn't damage a child permenantly, and most people don't care about it when they get older, and if they do, then they won't circumcise their own child. This is much like any thread on the internet, a small thing most people blow up about, and it's odd how this is about circumcision, and yet people are raising banners to blow this thread up.

 

[Newby_Newb]

Its funny how Circumcision is still an issue.

It should have been banned decades ago.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

And there went the maturity of the thread it was a good run.

Don't pretend there was any to begin with.

Have you seen the other threads like this? This is like fucking mass in comparison.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

"They should let them decide when they are older."
Yeah, 5 words for that-
4 Weeks of unforgiving pain.

It's just foreskin. Not that big of a deal.
Also, this interferes with "Should you be allowed to teach your child religion" in ways.

 

[Soxafloppin]

My penis has a leg warmer on it, It'l stay that way.

Circumsicion has no real benifits or drawbacks but I'm sure its fair to have it forced on a child.

 

[thom_cat_]

My folks had me circumcised when I was an infant and frankly I'm glad they did. The hygienic reasons aside, it's a redundant body part, like the appendix, an evolutionary vestige. I've never had 'erectile dysfunction' or problems masturbating, though I have heard plenty of hilarious stories about women turned off by creepy dog dorks, and none of them involve an appreciation for smegma buildup.

So, have fun cleaning it with a Q-tip, turtlenecks.

I have never ever had this issue... at all... I don't think I've even seen a build up of smegma.
It has it's purpose, and it feels good. And no girl that I have ever met has said they'd rather any different.

 

[Rin Little]

This may be because I'm a chick, but I honestly don't really care. The baby doesn't remember it because it's done when they're only a few hours old, it's easier to clean and cuts down on bacteria. Why does this matter?