Poll: What if PS4/Xbox 720 banned used games but had an exclusive on your favorite franchise?

[WorriedSandwich]

Unless Valve hits the console market and completely ditches the pc, no.

 

[disappointed]

If they blocked used games, I'd have to rethink my options. I wouldn't touch the PS4 because PSN prices are insanity expressed in numerical form. It would be one less reason not to plump for OnLive, which should really be coming into its own by then. Or I could just nab the latest iPad which is where all the cool games live these days anyway. Then there's the rumoured Steam console - if we're going digital, I'd take Steam over Sony or MS any day.

It's a dangerous time for the console big boys to be messing with their consumers like this.

 

[thejackyl]

I forgot Ebay... The time I won a copy of RE2 for $30, and the seller refused to ship it unless we paid an extra $70. If he wanted a certain amount he should have set one.

But yeah, I still say no used games is a huge way to piss off consumers.

If the new consoles do this, I'm fairly certain it will only last for a short time. Especially if new games begin to cost more than $60.

As for the PC/Console War... thing...

A good PC will cost you more initially than a console. However for someone who doesn't have the technical know how to upgrade a PC (It's not hard, but some people refuse to learn) a console is much more convenient. Convenience sells! Not to mention that all console games will work the same on the proper console, but not all PC games will work the same on every PC. You have things like unsupported graphics cards to worry about or if games are horribly optimized for your setup.

Hell, my PC is basically a FPS/WoW/LoL/Skyrim/RTS Console anyways... Most things just play better on a gamepad, and my PC won't acknowledge any gamepads for some reason.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

I would still buy an Xbox 720 if that happened. I don't buy used games. I like my games to come all nice and neatly wrapped and shiny with everything included in the box that was meant to be there.

The only thing this would do is prevent my from buying old games from my friend, since I know he takes good care of his games and all things are still in the case. Considering this generation a ban would only remove three games from my collection, which still leaves 27 games that I bought new. That's 27 new games since the summer of 2009 when I got my 360, so that is roughly 9 new games a year. I'm fine with that.

So no, a ban on used games wouldn't effect me, so I wouldn't care. And I haven't rented a game for over 3 years, so it wouldn't effect me there either.

 

[dreadedcandiru99]

Some other PS3 games turned out to be good, but I originally bought that console just for Final Fantasy XIII, and look how that turned out. I think I've learned a valuable lesson about exclusive franchises.

As for the no-used-games bit? No. That's an instant deal-breaker. I see no room for negotiation on this. I may not buy a lot of used games, but fuck them if they think they can tell me I can't buy any. I have no tolerance whatsoever for that DRM bullshit, and I won't tolerate this either.

 

[Hazy992]

I'm doubting they care much, if at all, if the people who only buy used don't buy their console. They make their money off of new releases, so they aren't losing anything.

But wouldn't the lose money on hardware? You can bet a large number of people won't buy the consoles if they do this

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Probably, what with my psychological addiction to the media, and my intense want for gaming, game stories, constructed universes, and more God of War.

Though, if they kicked the used game market out, I'll either wait for the loophole that gets around the thing, or wait until price drops damn near kill the thing.

 

[applesandoranges]

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[ItsAChiaotzu]

Well if a sequel was made to Jak at this point I'd just be disappointed, so if it was my actual favourite franchise then I really don't think I would buy it.

However, my favourite franchise that's currently going? (Souls series) Well, I'd have to think long and hard about that, I think I'd wait to see how it was received and then probably buy it.

 

[Rheinmetall]

I'm not interested in that kind of prospect for two reasons: Firstly it's a matter of principles. I can't reward with my hardly earned money companies that treat me like a fool. Secondly, I can't afford to buy all the time new games. It's impossible to go on like this, or wait a year until it gets platinum/best hits. The hell with them, I have so many games, and good games in my collection, and there are hundreds of great games that I have missed all those years, that all of them can last me approximately two lives and a half before I run out of games to play.

 

[sophiebelle]

I'm doubting they care much, if at all, if the people who only buy used don't buy their console. They make their money off of new releases, so they aren't losing anything.

But wouldn't the lose money on hardware? You can bet a large number of people won't buy the consoles if they do this

They usually lose money on hardware. They aren't right now, but it took five years to get to this place.

When I was more naive, I'd walk into a GameStop store with every intention to buy a game new. Then they'd show me a virtually identical "used" copy that would save me five bucks, so I'd opt for that instead. I saved $5, and Sony easily lost $15+ (based off of a $60 game, where the retailer gets half and the producer gets half of the remaining half). If I hadn't been allowed to buy used then, it would have inconvenienced me negligibly, and it would have given Sony a deserved profit. I'm not here to say everyone is like I was then, but certainly a lot of people are. Companies like GameStop are counting on them to be.

 

[Hazy992]

I'm doubting they care much, if at all, if the people who only buy used don't buy their console. They make their money off of new releases, so they aren't losing anything.

But wouldn't the lose money on hardware? You can bet a large number of people won't buy the consoles if they do this

They usually lose money on hardware. They aren't right now, but it took five years to get to this place.

When I was more naive, I'd walk into a GameStop store with every intention to buy a game new. Then they'd show me a virtually identical "used" copy that would save me five bucks, so I'd opt for that instead. I saved $5, and Sony easily lost $15+ (based off of a $60 game, where the retailer gets half and the producer gets half of the remaining half). If I hadn't been allowed to buy used then, it would have inconvenienced me negligibly, and it would have given Sony a deserved profit. I'm not here to say everyone is like I was then, but certainly a lot of people are. Companies like GameStop are counting on them to be.

I know software is where the money is and companies deliberately make a loss to get a sale but if no-one buys the hardware then they can't sell the software can they? Way I see it it's more beneficial to lose some money on used sales than doing this.

 

[sophiebelle]

I know software is where the money is and companies deliberately make a loss to get a sale but if no-one buys the hardware then they can't sell the software can they? Way I see it it's more beneficial to lose some money on used sales than doing this.

I agree with you, but that's not what I said initially. I meant that if the only people who stopped buying the console were those who just buy used games, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are probably going to celebrate. They'll end up making a larger net and a larger percentage. It's probably not anywhere near that cut-and-dry, but it's still something to consider.

 

[Hazy992]

I know software is where the money is and companies deliberately make a loss to get a sale but if no-one buys the hardware then they can't sell the software can they? Way I see it it's more beneficial to lose some money on used sales than doing this.

I agree with you, but that's not what I said initially. I meant that if the only people who stopped buying the console were those who just buy used games, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are probably going to celebrate. They'll end up making a larger net and a larger percentage. It's probably not anywhere near that cut-and-dry, but it's still something to consider.

sorry i must have misenterpeted you. Yeah that's probably true but I think that very few people actually buy used exclusively, so they'll still feel it if they did this

 

[The_Waspman]

Meh, this generation was my first console since I owned a megadrive, and judging by the way things are going, I'll be bowing back out until we're all doing 3D holographics. I know most of the stuff coming out about the next gen is speculation and rumours, but none of it I find appealing in the slightest. Its all just too gimmicky. Stuff like motion controls, what a waste of time and effort, a much bigger focus on online multiplayer, drm, dlc, online passes...

So no, regardless of whether next gen consoles ban preowned (which they wont), I won't be buying one anyway, even if they do have exclusives.

 

[Nikolaz72]

But they lose the modding community which is quite a large part of it.

The modding guys number in the thousands so it isn't a few hundred sales they lose out on it's a massive chunk.

Going exclusive would damage their profits no matter what way you look at it.

Plus Bathesda actively encourages modding which is a large part of it's appeal.

The only reason some of us buy those games is purely to make and use mods for. I own none of them on console and never would consider buying them on console.

There are quite a few folks out there that aren't interested in consoles at all nevermind next gen ones.

The thing is the modding community is only a tiny portion of their sales. They are obviously never going to actually go exclusive but if they wanted to they could and would still be just fine. Yea they would loose some sales but not nearly as many as you seem to think.

200 Million dollars is just a drop in the water for a big company like Bethesda. You've got us, we are just clinging onto the few sales the PC makes and hopes Bethesda wont stop porting to us even though they are obviously loosing money doing it.