Poll: What if PS4/Xbox 720 banned used games but had an exclusive on your favorite franchise?

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ShindoL Shill

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So, the XBox 720 gets Halo exclusively?
I see no benefit.
Or it gets Elder Scrolls?
Well fuck that, I want to mod it.
 

tacotrainwreck

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Count me out on the next generation of consoles anyway. I just don't see enough technical jumps to really justify making another increasingly expensive console purchase just yet. If I were to grab a new console, it better impress the crap out of me, and not just be the same deal with sharper graphics.
 

V da Mighty Taco

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Considering I like to buy three to ten year old games that I missed when they first came out, of course I wouldn't. I don't buy used unless the game's price has dropped by more than ten dollars since a new copy will be less likely to have issues, but not letting me buy used at all when old games aren't reliably available otherwise (at least not on console without resorting to piracy) and us being in the age of DRM / "we can take away your legally paid for sixty-dollar game whenever, especially if it's not a physical copy" would automatically ruin any chances of me getting that system.
 

Nikolaz72

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Das Boot said:
Rawne1980 said:
Elder Scrolls/Fallout would NOT go console only.

They have a massive PC user base (welcome to the modding community) and that would cost them massively.
The thing is the PC user base has already been dwarfed by the console one for both of those games. They could easily make them console exclusive and not suffer all that much. Sure they would loose some sales but they would make up part of them because a lot of PC users would just buy the game for a console.
1. A lot of PC gamers dont have a console.
2. Reason for retail salesnumbers being higher is because... Its apparently not fkin obvious for those who show the total-sales that most of their sales is from digital distribution. I would say that PC-sales in terms of Skyrim is around equal to that of consoles.
 

ABLb0y

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I'm probably going to end up buying a 720 anyway. I'll be buggered if I give into pc gaming.
 

tacotrainwreck

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MelasZepheos said:
Lagao said:
why pay nearly 500 dollars for a new console when I can upgrade my pc for 100 dollars or less?

Too many problems with consoles anyway.

Red Ring, Yellow Light, ApocalyPS3, and broken TV (wii)
How much did your PC cost originally, how many times have you upgraded it?

Because I bought one console for £200 and have never had to upgrade it and it's been serving me well for nearly five years. Even if you bought a computer for £100 and upgraded it twice for a further £100 (which won't be true) then I'm £100 pounds better off than you, and I've still been able to play almost all the games you have.

Even using your numbers, let's try this.

1 new console: $499 (based on PS3 release date price)
Lifetime: 5-7 years (approx, I'm also still able to play a 15 year old PS1 and a 10 year old PS2 and XBox)
Upgrades: 0

1 new reasonably priced desktop computer: $439 (ooh! $70!)
Lifetime: 10 years (approx, depending on Operating System, I usually buy a new laptop every 5 years, and we replaced our family desktop about that often as well because it couldn't work with whatever new system came out)
Upgrades: New top of the range graphics card: $337
New top of the range sound card: $60
Extra memory capacity at (roughly) two year intervals (based on a quick forum trawl on a PC Gaming forum): $25

Total price after two years ownership: $861

Anything I forgot?
I think you forgot that a 5-7 year lifespan on a modern console system is a very high estimate. My 360 is on it's 5th year now, but I use it maybe once a month or so. I played the crap out of my PS3 (10-15 hours a week or so) and it burned out before the 2 year mark, so then it's more cash for a new one plus some lost data.

My last laptop has lasted me 6 years and counting, and though the graphics need to be turned down on modern pc games, it can still play them without any hardware modifications. Add that to the sheer amount of productivity you can accomplish on a PC (Even if built just for games) and I'd say that $861 is well worth the cost, even using your overly skewed numbers.
 

wintercoat

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MelasZepheos said:
Lagao said:
why pay nearly 500 dollars for a new console when I can upgrade my pc for 100 dollars or less?

Too many problems with consoles anyway.

Red Ring, Yellow Light, ApocalyPS3, and broken TV (wii)
How much did your PC cost originally, how many times have you upgraded it?

Because I bought one console for £200 and have never had to upgrade it and it's been serving me well for nearly five years. Even if you bought a computer for £100 and upgraded it twice for a further £100 (which won't be true) then I'm £100 pounds better off than you, and I've still been able to play almost all the games you have.

Even using your numbers, let's try this.

1 new console: $499 (based on PS3 release date price)
Lifetime: 5-7 years (approx, I'm also still able to play a 15 year old PS1 and a 10 year old PS2 and XBox)
Upgrades: 0

1 new reasonably priced desktop computer: $439 (ooh! $70!)
Lifetime: 10 years (approx, depending on Operating System, I usually buy a new laptop every 5 years, and we replaced our family desktop about that often as well because it couldn't work with whatever new system came out)
Upgrades: New top of the range graphics card: $337
New top of the range sound card: $60
Extra memory capacity at (roughly) two year intervals (based on a quick forum trawl on a PC Gaming forum): $25

Total price after two years ownership: $861

Anything I forgot?
You forget the fact that most people already own a PC in the first place. The average person doesn't build a gaming rig, they just play off of their home PC. A $100-200 video card is all most people need in order to be able to play the majority of games. And when the next generation rolls around, most people won't bother upgrading until the point where they're no longer able to play a game on their PC, at which point they can upgrade to last-years vid card for, again, $100-200. Whereas the next gen consoles are no doubt going to cost around $300-400, meaning that, even if you only started playing video games this generation, and bought a console at $200, when the next generation rolls out, you will have paid much more on hardware you bought just for gaming.
 

JediMB

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Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, as long as it doesn't lead to good games dropping off the face of the market completely. I might even encourage it. Of course there could/should also be an option to pay a fee in order to make used games playable for a new owner.
 

EHKOS

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Sony? Yes. Microsoft/Nintendo? No. Well, maybe if Nintendo puts out a new handheld and has a pokemon game that cannot be emulated then yes when the price drops. Sony just holds all my favorites as exclusives anyways. Naughty Dog is owned by SCEA.
 

mateushac

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I probably would stick to the PC, but, as far as my console experience goes, I've never bought used anyway.
 

phYnc

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I own a 360 but I've shifted over to PC gaming which is just superior in every way. Apart from the occasional screw over by bad ports or delayed release dates. Many more PC exclusives out there.

When I did use my 360 though I never bought used games. I always preferred buying new so banning used wouldn't of affected my choice to buy. However irrelevant now :D
 

witheringsanity

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since i would buy a ps4/nextbox even if the banned used games (and actually hope they do), this question is kind of moot. i play most my games on PC, and there haven't been used PC games in quite a while. it's easily the most logical step for sony and MS to take.
 

Xanthious

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Used games aren't going anywhere for a while. Microsoft and Sony won't be getting rid of them until they go all digital and that won't happen for some time yet. That being said if used games were banned I'd be done.

I buy almost exclusively used games as they simply provide a better buying experience. I don't like a used game and I can take it back. I save 10% on all my used purchases. I get points I can trade in for things like buy 2 get 1 free coupons and other more tangible rewards. Hell often times the people at Gamestop will run me off one of the multiplayer codes or things like the Catwoman code for Arkham City for free if I remember to ask when I get a game that strips features off used games.

What do I get for buying new? Fuck all that's what. I'm stuck with the game unless I want to trade it in for a fraction of what I paid for it or bugger around moving it on craigslist. New games are a scam through and through.

I'll take the cheaper product I can return no questions asked over a more expensive product I'm stuck with. Sure you can argue that the money is going to the developer or publisher but ya know what? I don't give a fuck where the money goes. My money is going to whoever is giving me the best value for it and it's not the people trying to move the new games.

If new game sellers want my money then they need to provide me some value for it. Simply removing used games from the equation won't make me start buying new. I can promise that if they would ban used games they still wouldn't get my money and I'd still find a way to play their games . . . . through totally legal means of course, honest! XD
 

Charli

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If it squishes down the expense of brand new 'AAA' whatever that means, titles, then I don't see why not. If I really want the game being able to pick and choose, or wait and keep an eye for bargins doesn't seem any different from using steam.
 

juchmis

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I've got a PC, which I do buy games for. I've also got a PS3. I really hate console gaming and never bought single title for it until it got hacked and then I just downloaded every PS3 exclusive I wanted. Never had an Xbox, don't want one either. I play Wii games with Dolphin if at all, so that's not an issue either.

I wouldn't buy an 8th generation console anyway, but especially not if it didn't have an option for used games. The idea that my purchase is just for a "lease" on the files on the disc is ridiculous. Intellectual property is going too far these days.
 

ToastyMozart

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I'm just going to pick up a Wii U (Nintendo seems miles better on the subject of DLC ripoffs than most other consoles, and has some great exclusives) and upgrade my graphics card.
I might buy a PS4 down the road, depending on what Sucker Punch comes out with.

Also, if they DO make used games unusable, but lower prices by $10-20 due to the increased profit margins, I would be a little disappointed, but more or less OK with it.
But we all know they will raise the price to $70 each soon :\