Poll: What if you were forced into military?

[vasudean]

I would go for front-line support training, then when the crisis starts, I would race up the ranks as fast as I can so that I can get a rather cushy job as tactical advisor.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Whichever option lets me use a sniper rifle.

 

[Kiutu]

every male between the ages 18-35 quote]
Saving grace.

Where's the "Surrender the instant the enemy attack" option?

Yup, that's right, you wanted to spend all of WWII in a Japanese internment camp where they felt you were subhuman because you surendered. Enjoy...


Overall its pathetic how selfish and short sighted some of the people in this thread have been. Sometimes war is necessary to protect those you love and the life you have. Sometimes its need to protect the innocent elsewhere because looking after others is the right thing to do. Sure, sometimes wars are started by stupid politicians for the wrong reasons, but the selfish jerks who say "what has my country done for me" just don't get it.

Well, fine. If the war is legit, ie the enemy is just a pure evil group, then I would help my country out. Based on current trends however, this is unlikely, in which case, if I must (assuming females are included too despite the inital post saying males) I would instead serve jail time. (running away I would consider myself a hypocrite, so I wouldnt)

 

[Spirit_Of_Fire]

I always wanted to go into the army, but realized it wasn't for me and am going to try my hand at policing instead.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Oh you would pass. There would be a spot for everyone. Even complete lunatics will be pressed into service or put to jail.

I would laugh my balls off. Putting people into jail simply because they are absolutely unfit to serve would guarantee I'd go rebel against my government. I've got enough friends with a large enough skill set that they'd never take us alive. We'd use the crisis to our advantage.

At any rate, your hypothesis is seriously flawed because of this statement. America already has the stain of the Japanese-American internment camps. Are you proposing America would go down the same road, but this time they'd jail everyone unfit to serve, along with every conscientious objector? The outcry would end all pretense to credibility and the draft would go down in flames.

 

[Zacharine]

Oh you would pass. There would be a spot for everyone. Even complete lunatics will be pressed into service or put to jail.

I would laugh my balls off. Putting people into jail simply because they are absolutely unfit to serve would guarantee I'd go rebel against my government. I've got enough friends with a large enough skill set that they'd never take us alive. We'd use the crisis to our advantage.

At any rate, your hypothesis is seriously flawed because of this statement. America already has the stain of the Japanese-American internment camps. Are you proposing America would go down the same road, but this time they'd jail everyone unfit to serve, along with every conscientious objector? The outcry would end all pretense to credibility and the draft would go down in flames.

I know the scenario is flawed. It's meant to be a bit unrealistic for a reason. Besides, in real life there are so many factors I couldn't possibly even begin to succesfully take every fact into account while making the scenario. So I went with something that might sound reasonable and has plenty of alternatives. besides, based on the discussion I feel it achieved it's purposed: People sharing what they would do in such a hypothetical situation and most importanty, their motivation for their choice, whatever it might be.

Mostly the 'lunatics as well' was added in order to stop people from making up the 'I'd never pass their psy-test so doesn't matter' excuses. Why? Because when situation really gets dire, more and more outlandish solutions become acceptable. And in the scenario situation is dire enough for the people to vote for a forced drafting law.

And shoveling dirt to a sandbag in surpervised conditions doesn't require much sanity. As I said, there is a place for everyone in this scenario.

EDIT: And when in this thread have I mentioned America? All I've talked about was your country, whatever it might be. If it's America and it affects your hypothetical choice, then it matters. Otherwise, not so much.

 

[Captain Blackout]

That's why you join the Air Force. Preferably as the pilot of a Stealth.

Where's the thrill in taking the lives of others?

I wold be glad if they did something like that. It would create an organized, healthy, and well-groomed society. Besides, I've been trying to decide if i should join or not anyway, and that would give me my answer.

...1984 called.
It's for you.

I'm so in trouble for a double post but I had to say that was freakin' brilliant Max. I have a question: Is that better or worse than having Cthulhu call for you?

 

[Mozared]

I'd take the jail, simply because I'm not willing to take orders for a cause I detest so badly.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Oh you would pass. There would be a spot for everyone. Even complete lunatics will be pressed into service or put to jail.

I would laugh my balls off. Putting people into jail simply because they are absolutely unfit to serve would guarantee I'd go rebel against my government. I've got enough friends with a large enough skill set that they'd never take us alive. We'd use the crisis to our advantage.

At any rate, your hypothesis is seriously flawed because of this statement. America already has the stain of the Japanese-American internment camps. Are you proposing America would go down the same road, but this time they'd jail everyone unfit to serve, along with every conscientious objector? The outcry would end all pretense to credibility and the draft would go down in flames.

I know the scenario is flawed. *snip* Mostly the 'lunatics as well' was added in order to stop people from making up the 'I'd never pass their psy-test so doesn't matter' excuses. *snip*

And shoveling dirt to a sandbag in surpervised conditions doesn't require much sanity. As I said, there is a place for everyone in this scenario.

EDIT: And when in this thread have I mentioned Amerika? All I've talked about was your country, whatever it might be. If it's America and it affects your hypothetical choice, then it matters. Otherwise, not so much.

Ok then. I'm outside the age range but I'd join anyway. Go naval. Steal a fucking boat asap, get my family and friends on it with me, and go pirate (and not stupid somali pirate, we're not getting sniped.) If America has to re-instate the draft then they have already failed completely and I want nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever at that point. And yes, I'm in Amerika (nice spelling, are you making a point with it?)

EDIT: And to the ASSHATS who are calling out "coward" I'm taking as many men 18-35 with me as I can. You all can go fight in their place.

 

[Thanatos5150]

You mean, had I not willingly joined? (In a logistics/Intelligance type set-up, by the way)

Then I'd opt for, of the provided options, Front line duty/support. I'd specifcally request training in combat medicine.

Because 8404s are just that awesome.

 

[Random Argument Man]

I will pretty much run away. I never got the idea of being in the military in the first place. I'm sorry. The idea of being a licensed killer is out of the question. (This sentence could be controversial).

Call me a peace lover or hippy. I basicly prefer words than bullets. (It saved me quite a few times in some RTS games).

 

[CrafterMan]

I'd take the jail, simply because I'm not willing to take orders for a cause I detest so badly.

I agree.

 

[CrafterMan]

I'd take the six month course.
It's shortest, as you said, so there's a smaller window of opportunity for me to get shot at.
While I'm there, I get to pick up neat weapon skills.

If the fighting starts, I defect and kill anyone who comes after me.
With a fucking skinning knife.
Slowly.

I'll ship the bodies back to them until they stop sending people after me.

Max, you are an angry lad aren't you.

 

[compensating]

I'd serve the military to the best of my ability and leave as soon as my contract was up.

 

[BlackJack47]

yeah, if i was drafted I would try my best to defend my country but only if it was what I believed in. Although with government propaganda in a time of war it would be pretty hard to distinguish what your governments actual intentions are.

 

[Zacharine]

Ok then. I'm outside the age range but I'd join anyway. Go naval. Steal a fucking boat asap, get my family and friends on it with me, and go pirate (and not stupid somali pirate, we're not getting sniped.) If America has to re-instate the draft then they have already failed completely and I want nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever at that point. And yes, I'm in Amerika (nice spelling, are you making a point with it?)

EDIT: And to the ASSHATS who are calling out "coward" I'm taking as many men 18-35 with me as I can. You all can go fight in their place.

Lol, nice choice

Aah, and no, no point in the different spellings. Just a little inside joke I'm sure 99% of you won't get. One of those 'had to be there' things.

 

[Tehpwnsauce]

I'd take the six month course.
It's shortest, as you said, so there's a smaller window of opportunity for me to get shot at.
While I'm there, I get to pick up neat weapon skills.

If the fighting starts, I defect and kill anyone who comes after me.
With a fucking skinning knife.
Slowly.

I'll ship the bodies back to them until they stop sending people after me.

Sir I hope I never meet you in a dark alley, or a light alley for that matter.

 

[Pumpkin_Eater]

I don't have a real plan for my life, but one thing I'm considering is paramedicine. The combat support option would therefore be a natural choice despite the likelihood that I would be deployed (US citizen here).

 

[ORLOFT]

It disappoints me to see such a low level of courage here sometimes, either you fight or someone else has to fight for you. We all die eventually, better to live a shorter life of meaning then twenty more years as a coward which serves nothing but himself.

One might argue that it is cowardice to do what you are told when the orders contradict what you believe. If there is an emergency, and I believe in the cause, no one has to tell me to help... I just will. But given the track record of battles and wars lately, I seriously doubt that fight will arise anytime soon.

If it is your aspiration to fight and kill for the greedy and powerful, then I wish you the best of luck in accomplishing that goal, but do not for a moment assume that somehow makes you superior, or that it gives your life any sort of meaning. What you actually do with your time determines it's value.

I will die eventually, on that point you are absolutely correct. I am not worried about when that happens, because I will die a good man. Good men do not kill just because they are told to do so.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Ok then. I'm outside the age range but I'd join anyway. Go naval. Steal a fucking boat asap, get my family and friends on it with me, and go pirate (and not stupid somali pirate, we're not getting sniped.) If America has to re-instate the draft then they have already failed completely and I want nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever at that point. And yes, I'm in Amerika (nice spelling, are you making a point with it?)

EDIT: And to the ASSHATS who are calling out "coward" I'm taking as many men 18-35 with me as I can. You all can go fight in their place.

Lol, nice choice

Aah, and no, no point in the different spellings. Just a little inside joke I'm sure 99% of you won't get. One of those 'had to be there' things.

I've seen that spelling elsewhere. I think it was a rapper making a KKK commentary on the country.