Poll: What if you were forced into military?

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Dys

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I would fight to defend my land and my country, but I will not participate in any military action outside of the immediate defence of my country, manditory or otherwise.

asiepshtain said:
It disappoints me to see such a low level of courage here sometimes, either you fight or someone else has to fight for you. We all die eventually, better to live a shorter life of meaning then twenty more years as a coward which serves nothing but himself.
There are those among us who have little to no love for our government, and I would sooner fight against them than for their political failings, is it not their job to keep the peace? We fork out absurd amounts of money and garuntee they will have a comfortable life, the least they could do is avoid international conflict...

Do you honestly think it takes more courage to accept training for a potential future conflict than it does to stand up for what you beleive in, even if doing so will make most of society shun you? It's not uncommon for people to rate honour above life, and it sure as hell takes a lot more courage to resist where everyone else complies.
 

reincarN8ed

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Wow. Half the assholes in here aren't taking this thread very seriously...

As for me, I'll take the combat support. More specifically a medic's position. Why?
1. I always wanted to be a doctor, but it seems too boring. So why not play doctor w/ bullets flying by my head?
2. I more of the supporting type. I don't want all the glory, I'll help you get it!
3. EVERYONE's always happy to see a medic!!
 

MSG_Klemer

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To the people that think long range is snipers, I am sorry but alot of time snipers are forward deployed, sniping is technically a secondary task with a probable primary and secondary targets, but most of the time they are used as LP (Listening Posts) forward information i.e. enemy postions, equipment type, if there is armor or not, etc.

They are also used as advanced targeting, meaning when they report of high troop buildup, movements, overwhelming forces, etc. He/she might be tasked to provide airstrike, artillery fire on the target. So as far as I am concerned Sniper is one of the least closest position. More of a behind enemy lines position.

Next type of sniper would be infantry, scouts, etc Designated Marksman. Most seem to keep thinking the M107 (50 cal sniper rifle) is employed en-masse numbers, rarely is more like it. Typically the sniper is using a shorter range rifle.
 

Whistler777

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I'd probably shoot for long-range combat because I simply lack the stamina for front-line infantry work and I'm not afraid to admit it. Plus, if you're an intellectual (like me), you can serve your brothers on the front lines by giving them tactical logistics and other useful information. However, if I saw another American soldier in immediate danger, I'd do everything in my power to help him, come Hell or high water. There's no room for cowards in the fog of war.
 

reincarN8ed

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Silva said:
I'm amused at how many people have voted for long range combat. They probably think that long range is less dangerous. It is - at first. Long range can become close range very quickly, and if your opponent has a shotgun or a Kalashnikov... well, that big ol' sniper rifle suddenly looks pretty useless.
Prolly because most of the geeks in here play too many video games and think that "long range combat" means "I CAN HAS SN1P3R!!!"

News Flash: Sniping in a fucking video game does NOT transfer into real life! Half of you couldn't even HOLD the rifle correctly, even fewer could aim it, even fewer still could hit within 25 ft of the target, and even if you did the recoil would hit you so hard you wouldn't be able to set up another shot in time before you're found out.
 

Dragon Zero

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I would sign up for the combat positions. I have no qualms about serving my country and even if I did I would at least not turn away from my family and friends. Plus as I like to say, "Better to do you duty than complain about it, complaining makes a task last twice as long."

Edit: If I can choose, I'd either be a front liner or artillery.
 

reincarN8ed

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Whistler777 said:
I'd probably shoot for long-range combat because I simply lack the stamina for front-line infantry work and I'm not afraid to admit it. Plus, if you're an intellectual (like me), you can serve your brothers on the front lines by giving them tactical logistics and other useful information. However, if I saw another American soldier in immediate danger, I'd do everything in my power to help him, come Hell or high water. There's no room for cowards in the fog of war.
Fuck yea! Now that's the kinda brotherly bond that American soldiers have that makes us one of the best military forces on the planet.
 

aruseusx

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Well since western military has become prety foolproof because of satelite imaging, survivalist and martial arts training, airstrikes, etc. i would go in frontlines since i have less of a chance to get shot in western military than eastern military (US miltary coalition has less than 5000 deaths estimate) and also even if i did die i get an awesome grave on a sweet meadow. Besides the emerging superpowers have too much dependance on each other to really start a war(but this doesnt mean they wont find a reason). And America stomps on countries before they become too much of a threat to them. I mean they would of probably invaded australia now if we didnt give them our Uranium.
 

Dragon Zero

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reincarN8ed said:
Whistler777 said:
I'd probably shoot for long-range combat because I simply lack the stamina for front-line infantry work and I'm not afraid to admit it. Plus, if you're an intellectual (like me), you can serve your brothers on the front lines by giving them tactical logistics and other useful information. However, if I saw another American soldier in immediate danger, I'd do everything in my power to help him, come Hell or high water. There's no room for cowards in the fog of war.
Fuck yea! Now that's the kinda brotherly bond that American soldiers have that makes us one of the best military forces on the planet.
Couldn't agree with you more, even if you forced me to.
 

NeoDeath90

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I'll be the first to admit that I'm a gigantic pussy when it comes to confrontation. I can handle myself well, it;s just I dislike fighting, and therefore try to avoid it as often as possible.

So, with that said, I'd go with the community service hands down. So I'd need to work for no money for a year and a half. I can live with that. At least I'm alive.
 

MSG_Klemer

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reincarN8ed said:
Prolly because most of the geeks in here play too many video games and think that "long range combat" means "I CAN HAS SN1P3R!!!"

News Flash: Sniping in a fucking video game does NOT transfer into real life! Half of you couldn't even HOLD the rifle correctly, even fewer could aim it, even fewer still could hit within 25 ft of the target, and even if you did the recoil would hit you so hard you wouldn't be able to set up another shot in time before you're found out.
Good post.

Just some minor info:

M82A1 .50 cal: 13.6 kg (29.98 lb) (semi-auto)

M24 7.62x51mm NATO: 5.4 kg (12.3 lb)w/sling empty, without scope (bolt action)

M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System (designed for the bravo element) 7.62x51mm NATO : 6.94 kg (15.3 lb) with scope, bipod, and a loaded 20-round magazine

MK12 Special Purpose Receiver (Designated Marksman/Special Operations) 5.56mm: 10 lb (4.5 kg). (Fully loaded, w/ Heavy Barrel, Optic & 30 Rounds)

Just basic info. Drop the hammer down on the big fifty, your not going to effectively drop another round downrange quickly, better hope your Bravo element is a good shot.

By the way:
Alpha Element: Dedicated Sniper
Bravo Element: Observer, Sniper qualified

Meaning Alpha turns casualty the Bravo has the training to take up Alpha's rifle.
 

hailene

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I love my country.

All the way from the first plane out of the 'States.

I'm physically fit and quick on the bounce, but I have certain misgivings about shrapnel and bullets entering my body.

Besides, my family owns property around the world. I'd just pick a place until things cool off. Watch the news, send money to the government, and hope for the best. Yeah...that's the plan.
 

imperialwar

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I think the concept of COUNTRY is getting peoples backs up, safely scooting off to another country as they arent happy with the current government.

So i propose either Alien Invasion, or the rise of the Mole People scenerio.

Also I choose Front Line, sniper class / Recon and Intel as well as Rapid Response from the scenerio listed. As this is where all my pevious training went anyway.
 

Paragon Fury

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I'd sign up before they'd conscript me.

And I'd prefer combat pilot or an armor position, but knowing my luck I'd get stuck in an infantry position.

Not that I hve anything against infantry. Its just that really, really like the big toys...and I'd probably make a better pilot or driver then foot solider.

Also, in the words of one of my AI:

"To be perfectly honest with you boys, its not easy to be brave. However, being the pilot of God's own personal anti-son-of-a-***** machine helps. A lot."
 

Martenzo

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Well, with these terms, I'd go for frontline combat support. Although, I probably wouldn't pass psychological examination.
 

reincarN8ed

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MSG_Klemer said:
reincarN8ed said:
Prolly because most of the geeks in here play too many video games and think that "long range combat" means "I CAN HAS SN1P3R!!!"

News Flash: Sniping in a fucking video game does NOT transfer into real life! Half of you couldn't even HOLD the rifle correctly, even fewer could aim it, even fewer still could hit within 25 ft of the target, and even if you did the recoil would hit you so hard you wouldn't be able to set up another shot in time before you're found out.
Good post.

Just some minor info:

M82A1 .50 cal: 13.6 kg (29.98 lb) (semi-auto)

M24 7.62x51mm NATO: 5.4 kg (12.3 lb)w/sling empty, without scope (bolt action)

M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System (designed for the bravo element) 7.62x51mm NATO : 6.94 kg (15.3 lb) with scope, bipod, and a loaded 20-round magazine

MK12 Special Purpose Receiver (Designated Marksman/Special Operations) 5.56mm: 10 lb (4.5 kg). (Fully loaded, w/ Heavy Barrel, Optic & 30 Rounds)

Just basic info. Drop the hammer down on the big fifty, your not going to effectively drop another round downrange quickly, better hope your Bravo element is a good shot.

By the way:
Alpha Element: Dedicated Sniper
Bravo Element: Observer, Sniper qualified

Meaning Alpha turns casualty the Bravo has the training to take up Alpha's rifle.
Oh ho ho ho! Very cool! You seem to really know your stuff, are you in military/ex-military?
 

reincarN8ed

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Paragon Fury said:
I'd sign up before they'd conscript me.

And I'd prefer combat pilot or an armor position, but knowing my luck I'd get stuck in an infantry position.

Not that I hve anything against infantry. Its just that really, really like the big toys...and I'd probably make a better pilot or driver then foot solider.

Also, in the words of one of my AI:

"To be perfectly honest with you boys, its not easy to be brave. However, being the pilot of God's own personal anti-son-of-a-***** machine helps. A lot."
Ahahahaha!! Omg, ur quote made me pee my pants!!