Poll: what is stronger... hate or love?

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wilted_orchid

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Well, hate destroys the one hates, but love is all you need (sorry, couldn't resist).

But in all seriousness, if I may I'd like to point out that what Hugh Grant said at the start of Love, Actually, is absolutely true - None of the messages people sent to their loved ones from the planes that went down in the tragedy of September 11th were messages of hate. They were full of love, only love. Surely, that proves that at the end of the day, in the final moment love with win out and thus love > hate?
 

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Hate 4 the win because Hate makes you want to kill. Only when love turns into hate do you kill.
 

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DSQ said:
Hate 4 the win because Hate makes you want to kill. Only when love turns into hate do you kill.
exactly, just look at Medea for instance, her love was strong enough for her to kill her brother and leave her home land, but it made her hate was so much stronger...unfortunateley for her children...
 

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Ninja_X said:
Finnboghi said:
Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
This.

Love - true love - is unbreakable.

And love does feed off itself.

If you love someone (You onry want to kirr dem - cookie for reference), you get it back 10 times as much.

If you hate someone, you get the same amount back, and it only ends up hurting one or both of you.

Love is without a doubt the more powerful.


Thank you!!!

Love is epic.

LIKE NINJAS.
Ninjas are not epic. Hell, the ninjas we fantisize about in most context are not even close to what was real. In alot of ways that is like love. Overly romanticized.

Somebody else said love is forever. You are WRONG, NOTHING is forever. If you can suck 70 years out of love, then congratz, you are better than 99.999999999999934 percent of the rest of the world! Forever is such a long time that 70 years goes into it an infinite number of times. And don't give me some crap about being together forever after you die either. That would be a cruel joke if all the wifebeaters got to spend eternity with their wives just because of a deathbed confession.

Cold. Hard. Facts.
Your love has a 75 percent chance of publically failing while you are alive.
Your love has a 100 percent chance of ending in death or failure.

While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
 

fix-the-spade

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Hate is the more obvious of the two, the more destructive as well. Love tends to lead to creation (whether it's love for a person, a subject or an ideal) so it's the more useful. But their strength is difficult to quantify.

MaxTheReaper said:
You will all die alone.
Unloved.
True, but why should that stop you from spending the time you have left fruitfully?
 

Ninja_X

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gim73 said:
Ninja_X said:
Finnboghi said:
Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
This.

Love - true love - is unbreakable.

And love does feed off itself.

If you love someone (You onry want to kirr dem - cookie for reference), you get it back 10 times as much.

If you hate someone, you get the same amount back, and it only ends up hurting one or both of you.

Love is without a doubt the more powerful.


Thank you!!!

Love is epic.

LIKE NINJAS.
Ninjas are not epic. Hell, the ninjas we fantisize about in most context are not even close to what was real. In alot of ways that is like love. Overly romanticized.

Somebody else said love is forever. You are WRONG, NOTHING is forever. If you can suck 70 years out of love, then congratz, you are better than 99.999999999999934 percent of the rest of the world! Forever is such a long time that 70 years goes into it an infinite number of times. And don't give me some crap about being together forever after you die either. That would be a cruel joke if all the wifebeaters got to spend eternity with their wives just because of a deathbed confession.

Cold. Hard. Facts.
Your love has a 75 percent chance of publically failing while you are alive.
Your love has a 100 percent chance of ending in death or failure.

While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
1st of all, ninjas are epic.

2nd Love is only futile to narrow minded people like you who have given up on humanity. If you think that love is false, fine then go die alone.

What is the case for the majority is not alwase the case for everyone.
 

asinann

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grimsprice said:
MaxTheReaper said:
You can kill for either, but very few people would die for hate, while some would die for love, so I suppose love would be the stronger of the two.

Though frankly they're both a waste of time - love especially.
You will all die alone.
Unloved.
QFT. You will die alone.

Hate is stronger because hate has caused world wars. Love not so much bloodshed. And love is a fickle thing, hate feeds off itself and becomes more powerful. Just look at max.
Religion is all about love, and people have been killing over that for millenia.

Quite honestly though, neither is stronger than the other: they are two sides of the same coin.
 

FROGGEman2

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Well... an emotion is only as strong as you perceive it to be, so I'm going to assume that you actually asked "which emotion is more prevalent in your daily lives and in the world as a whole"

Umm... well, hate. Love is there, but they are are basically the same, and hate can turn to true love in an instant, and vice versa. The reason why? Because we are fucking machines, chemicals, telling us how to feel. You are a cardbaord cut-out in a dying world. You will say love, but look what people do everyday...

Skinning live seals and leave them to die in the snow - Can't you feel the love?
http://www.mrdowling.com/611starving.jpg
http://www.fastfoodfree.org/Nutrition%20Obesity/fat-kits-eating-mcdonalds.jpg - can't you feel the equality?

...Humanity is horrible.

grimsprice said:
MaxTheReaper said:
You can kill for either, but very few people would die for hate, while some would die for love, so I suppose love would be the stronger of the two.

Though frankly they're both a waste of time - love especially.
You will all die alone.
Unloved.
QFT. You will die alone.

Hate is stronger because hate has caused world wars. Love not so much bloodshed. And love is a fickle thing, hate feeds off itself and becomes more powerful. Just look at max.
I'm loving how emotionally dead our largest posters are ^.^

Ninja_X said:
gim73 said:
Ninja_X said:
Finnboghi said:
Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
This.

Love - true love - is unbreakable.

And love does feed off itself.

If you love someone (You onry want to kirr dem - cookie for reference), you get it back 10 times as much.

If you hate someone, you get the same amount back, and it only ends up hurting one or both of you.

Love is without a doubt the more powerful.


Thank you!!!

Love is epic.

LIKE NINJAS.
Ninjas are not epic. Hell, the ninjas we fantisize about in most context are not even close to what was real. In alot of ways that is like love. Overly romanticized.

Somebody else said love is forever. You are WRONG, NOTHING is forever. If you can suck 70 years out of love, then congratz, you are better than 99.999999999999934 percent of the rest of the world! Forever is such a long time that 70 years goes into it an infinite number of times. And don't give me some crap about being together forever after you die either. That would be a cruel joke if all the wifebeaters got to spend eternity with their wives just because of a deathbed confession.

Cold. Hard. Facts.
Your love has a 75 percent chance of publically failing while you are alive.
Your love has a 100 percent chance of ending in death or failure.

While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
1st of all, ninjas are epic.

2nd Love is only futile to narrow minded people like you who have given up on humanity. If you think that love is false, fine then go die alone.

What is the case for the majority is not alwase the case for everyone.
Bye saying that, you have proved him completely right. "fine then go die alone" *sniff* yes, I love the smell of irony in the morning.

No, ninjas aren't epic. They are laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. And, it's funny how you represent "the majority" with 31.6% of the posters of this forum. As opposed to 45.3% of the posters on this forum. Tell me, have you ever been in love, or more importantly, are you in love? Have you ever said: "This is true love, it will last forever!!!11!1" in a relationship, only to have it crash to the ground? Love cannot be forever, because it ends. It does. You know that is true, no relationship lasts forever.

bluepilot said:
Love is the strongest because love is what makes us better people. Hatred causes pettiness and vengeful feelings. Hate can only make us do destructive things.

Love on the other hand, gives us the strenght to build our homes, hold our children, care for our sick parents and be catable of things we would not otherwise be catable of doing.

Just look at the Harry Potter series. Love destroyed Voldemort in the end.
I'm on a roll now.

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1. of little or no importance or consequence: petty grievances.
2. of lesser or secondary importance, merit, etc.; minor: petty considerations.

3. having or showing narrow ideas, interests, etc.: petty minds.
4. mean or ungenerous in small or trifling things: a petty person.
5. showing or caused by meanness of spirit: a petty revenge.
6. of secondary rank, esp. in relation to others of the same class or kind: petty states; a petty tyrant.


Petty means insignificant. You are just writing off hate as being kinda wimpy. LOOK AROUND YOU.

...No one builds their own homes any more. You love your children because of chemicals. Love almost stops me from correcting you about the 'word' catable. capable, with a 'p'

OH! I see, my eyes are open, Voldemort was destroyed by LOVE!!! NOW MY EYES ARE OPENED!!!

I guess my main point is that humanity is more purely evil than anything else. The fact that people can bludgeon or skin an animal while it is still living and not actually hate it, just do it for money shows how evil humanity is. Even through love, evil is born. The Aztecs would rip beating hearts out of peoples bodies, or burn them alive, just to worship their gods. Not one a day, but two sacrifices every thirty seconds would be made.

Most people here, when talking about love, are talking without experience.

asinann said:
grimsprice said:
MaxTheReaper said:
You can kill for either, but very few people would die for hate, while some would die for love, so I suppose love would be the stronger of the two.

Though frankly they're both a waste of time - love especially.
You will all die alone.
Unloved.
QFT. You will die alone.

Hate is stronger because hate has caused world wars. Love not so much bloodshed. And love is a fickle thing, hate feeds off itself and becomes more powerful. Just look at max.
Religion is all about love, and people have been killing over that for millenia.

Quite honestly though, neither is stronger than the other: they are two sides of the same coin.
This, but I would say that religion, especially when branded to a nation, is all about power.
Don't you find it ironic that America, a Christian nation, and Iraq, a Muslim nation, are having "religious" wars with eachother when they both worship the same script?
 

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Love is the strongest because love is what makes us better people. Hatred causes pettiness and vengeful feelings. Hate can only make us do destructive things.

Love on the other hand, gives us the strenght to build our homes, hold our children, care for our sick parents and be catable of things we would not otherwise be catable of doing.

Just look at the Harry Potter series. Love destroyed Voldemort in the end.
 

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grimsprice said:
MaxTheReaper said:
You can kill for either, but very few people would die for hate, while some would die for love, so I suppose love would be the stronger of the two.

Though frankly they're both a waste of time - love especially.
You will all die alone.
Unloved.
QFT. You will die alone.

Hate is stronger because hate has caused world wars. Love not so much bloodshed. And love is a fickle thing, hate feeds off itself and becomes more powerful. Just look at max.
Aside from Max, I refute almost everything you write there.

Wars are almost never from hate alone, especially the world wars. They were, basically, sparked by greed, either for money, land or power, and all those are arguably closer to love than hate.

As to hate building on itself, have you never been in love? It too builds on itself echoing and resonating, consuming almost every thought in your mind. And I doubt you get all consuming hatred that is evident in your mind, every waking moment.

And while it is true that you die alone, there's no proof that you die unloved.

Also, this

Ninja_X said:
Love is only futile to narrow minded people like you who have given up on humanity. If you think that love is false, fine then go die alone.
 

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Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
:nod: Infatuation =/= Love.

Hate is easy to give in to where love takes determination, patience and understanding. The things that truly stand the test of time are the things that take time and thought to produce. Love is the pinnacle of those things.

For those of you mainly understand this concept through violence, I give you exhibit A:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_and_juliet

Aye, fiction at best, but there is much truth to the tale. Love caused and ceased much violence.

gim73 said:
While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
Yet love can end that generational hate.
 

Lonely Swordsman

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Hate and love are a lot more alike than most people seem to grasp. Both focus all your thoughts and emotions on a single target and have you readjust your entire life for that person, whether its to their protection or to their ultimate demise. Though love tends to last a lot longer than pure hatred, so I'm gonna also say love.
 

Arqus_Zed

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True hate is always born from love.
Read some Dante Alighieri if your too shallow to understand (I recommend the purgatory sequence, about halfway through).

I'd say hate is the king, but love is the emperor.
Thus, love is stronger.

There's isn't a lot true hate in this world you know, most of the time, media influences us into hating, even if they stay 'neutral'. War is the best example, I suppose... The enemy, we should hate the enemy, but you KNOW the enemy? Does the enemy know you? That just conditioned hate.

It's easy to dislike, but hate is a tad more complex. You aren't justified in hating if you have never been in deep contact with what you hate. thus, it's no true hate. Many dislike, many hate because they believe they have to, but true hate is rare.

I'd like to believe the same cannot be said about love, but I don't know.

Alas, love is -despite the general image- not always a good thing...
 

gim73

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Ninja_X said:
gim73 said:
Ninja_X said:
Finnboghi said:
Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
This.

Love - true love - is unbreakable.

And love does feed off itself.

If you love someone (You onry want to kirr dem - cookie for reference), you get it back 10 times as much.

If you hate someone, you get the same amount back, and it only ends up hurting one or both of you.

Love is without a doubt the more powerful.


Thank you!!!

Love is epic.

LIKE NINJAS.
Ninjas are not epic. Hell, the ninjas we fantisize about in most context are not even close to what was real. In alot of ways that is like love. Overly romanticized.

Somebody else said love is forever. You are WRONG, NOTHING is forever. If you can suck 70 years out of love, then congratz, you are better than 99.999999999999934 percent of the rest of the world! Forever is such a long time that 70 years goes into it an infinite number of times. And don't give me some crap about being together forever after you die either. That would be a cruel joke if all the wifebeaters got to spend eternity with their wives just because of a deathbed confession.

Cold. Hard. Facts.
Your love has a 75 percent chance of publically failing while you are alive.
Your love has a 100 percent chance of ending in death or failure.

While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
1st of all, ninjas are epic.

2nd Love is only futile to narrow minded people like you who have given up on humanity. If you think that love is false, fine then go die alone.

What is the case for the majority is not alwase the case for everyone.
Oh, I haven't given up on humanity. I'm also not saying that love is the whole PURPOSE for humanity to continue to exist. Love is an ideal. A silly, stupid absolute ideal. Many would say it's an impossible ideal as well. I'm not saying it's impossible, jut weak.

Chances are buddy, you are gonna die of either heart disease or cancer. Family history can affect it one way or the other. Now if you start putting bets on kicking it at the age of 110 from a common cold, that's what it would be like betting on your idealized love. The facts are just against you in so many ways.

btw: pirates pwn ninjas
 

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Daemon888 said:
simple question... what are your thoughts?
Study Aikido. The answer will become obvious.

Btw, Steven Segal may KNOW Aikido, but he never does it in his movies. He apparently thought it wasn't badass enough, so he makes stuff up. He has basically been disowned by the Aikido community.
 

oneniesteledain

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This question is stupid. I've seen people both kill and die, in the name of both.

It depends on the person, the situation, and their beliefs which one is stronger.
 

Ninja_X

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gim73 said:
Ninja_X said:
gim73 said:
Ninja_X said:
Finnboghi said:
Ninja_X said:
Love is allot more powerfull.

What you people think is "fleating" or "fickle" is not true love at all. Just a weaker emotion people confuse for love.
This.

Love - true love - is unbreakable.

And love does feed off itself.

If you love someone (You onry want to kirr dem - cookie for reference), you get it back 10 times as much.

If you hate someone, you get the same amount back, and it only ends up hurting one or both of you.

Love is without a doubt the more powerful.


Thank you!!!

Love is epic.

LIKE NINJAS.
Ninjas are not epic. Hell, the ninjas we fantisize about in most context are not even close to what was real. In alot of ways that is like love. Overly romanticized.

Somebody else said love is forever. You are WRONG, NOTHING is forever. If you can suck 70 years out of love, then congratz, you are better than 99.999999999999934 percent of the rest of the world! Forever is such a long time that 70 years goes into it an infinite number of times. And don't give me some crap about being together forever after you die either. That would be a cruel joke if all the wifebeaters got to spend eternity with their wives just because of a deathbed confession.

Cold. Hard. Facts.
Your love has a 75 percent chance of publically failing while you are alive.
Your love has a 100 percent chance of ending in death or failure.

While hate has a 100 percent chance of ending in death, it can stretch through the generations for reasons that make no sense at all.
1st of all, ninjas are epic.

2nd Love is only futile to narrow minded people like you who have given up on humanity. If you think that love is false, fine then go die alone.

What is the case for the majority is not alwase the case for everyone.
Oh, I haven't given up on humanity. I'm also not saying that love is the whole PURPOSE for humanity to continue to exist. Love is an ideal. A silly, stupid absolute ideal. Many would say it's an impossible ideal as well. I'm not saying it's impossible, jut weak.

Chances are buddy, you are gonna die of either heart disease or cancer. Family history can affect it one way or the other. Now if you start putting bets on kicking it at the age of 110 from a common cold, that's what it would be like betting on your idealized love. The facts are just against you in so many ways.

btw: pirates pwn ninjas
You seem to be missing the point of what love is. It means that no matter what there is a bond there that nothing can break. It isn't defined by you and the person you love being together, its a bond even if the two of you separate or stop seeing each other that bond is still there because you love eachother. When you love someone you care about them deeply, you care about their own happiness more than your own. Love is a bond that means the two of you will alwase have someone you can count on for a helping hand or a shoulder to cry on no matter what. Love means to accept and understand someone else completely, to accept them for their faults and stand by them no matter what.

It is very hard to find someone to share your heart with on that level, someone you can trust completely. That is why love i so hard to find. The half assed relationships that make up your little statistics are not true love. People misuse the word because they do not know what it means. If you end up bitterly hating the person you where with, guess what? It wasn't really love.

Also, pirates only own ninjas in whatever fantasy world you live in.