Poll: What is the most ridiculous controversy that has came from Avatar
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Im not sure that there are very many films left that dont rip designs from other movies. In fact, i think people are running out of original ideas. My mate is designing a game and has to use other games to put together a ship and various other odd and ends...link within said:
Also, why is it that "Nazi" is really creeping into everything now-a-days? Every where i look i see it or hear it. Really gets annoying and boring after a while.
I personally think that the whole Halo ripoff argument was totally overblown by what amounts to a few people overreacting and was really only given so much attention as yet another in the long line of excuses people give themselves to justify arrogantly insulting everyone who likes Halo (i.e a diverse group of people from all over the world) solely on the basis of a few people overreacting and acting like this somehow makes them insulting the Halo fans across the world justified.
(Once again, let it be known I have no problem with people who simply do not like Halo, just with people who feel the need to insult those who do)
As for the Avatar Depression side to it, I feel this was just simple depression from wanting to live in a fantasy world. I mean I can sort of relate to this but really we should be focussing on the world we live in and trying to make it more of a paradise than simply wishing our world was more like a fantasy.
I do not understand the femanist attack on the film however, as really it depicts the female Na'vi quite respectfully as diginifed female warriors. Honestly I saw no issue here but then I'm not a woman so I can't make a wholehearted argument on the subject
Finally the one complaint that I really do not understand the most is the angry assaults on the plot being similar to Dances with Wolves. The reason being that in this world just about EVERY plot idea has at least been done two times before you got there, really all you can hope for is telling an old story well as is the trick of a great story teller. Really though it feels similar to Pochahontas or Dances with Wolves but really maybe one could consider Avatar a Sci Fi reimagining of that plot and really considering how many times we've seen movies with similar plots and settings it seems really wierd to exclusivley ***** about Avatar for it.
So of all the reasons listed, I think I'm torn between the Halo one and the Plot one. Because really they both strike me as very needless complaints and in some sense feel more like an excuse for people to stand on a soap box and yell out complaints and insults towards the movie, the people who liked the movie and even other people who didn't like the movie.
P.S Sigourney Weaver is a smoker, I hardly see how that can be considered controversial so I'm not even counting that one.
P.P.S This was merely a personal expression of opinion and not intended to offend anyone.
(Once again, let it be known I have no problem with people who simply do not like Halo, just with people who feel the need to insult those who do)
I must stress however, that I fully understand that Halo's dropships took influence from Aliens so in no way can James Cameron be accused of ripping anything off, however Bungie themself acknowledged that they took referance from Aliens so don't think you are a 'genius' who 'uncovered the heinous conspiracy' if you noticed a connection between Aliens and Halo.
As for the Avatar Depression side to it, I feel this was just simple depression from wanting to live in a fantasy world. I mean I can sort of relate to this but really we should be focussing on the world we live in and trying to make it more of a paradise than simply wishing our world was more like a fantasy.
I do not understand the femanist attack on the film however, as really it depicts the female Na'vi quite respectfully as diginifed female warriors. Honestly I saw no issue here but then I'm not a woman so I can't make a wholehearted argument on the subject
Finally the one complaint that I really do not understand the most is the angry assaults on the plot being similar to Dances with Wolves. The reason being that in this world just about EVERY plot idea has at least been done two times before you got there, really all you can hope for is telling an old story well as is the trick of a great story teller. Really though it feels similar to Pochahontas or Dances with Wolves but really maybe one could consider Avatar a Sci Fi reimagining of that plot and really considering how many times we've seen movies with similar plots and settings it seems really wierd to exclusivley ***** about Avatar for it.
So of all the reasons listed, I think I'm torn between the Halo one and the Plot one. Because really they both strike me as very needless complaints and in some sense feel more like an excuse for people to stand on a soap box and yell out complaints and insults towards the movie, the people who liked the movie and even other people who didn't like the movie.
P.S Sigourney Weaver is a smoker, I hardly see how that can be considered controversial so I'm not even counting that one.
P.P.S This was merely a personal expression of opinion and not intended to offend anyone.
I also forgot about this, this too seems like an empty complaint because there was no evidence to suggest that the movie was openly homophobic and more importantly how do we know there were no gay Na'vi? I mean it's not like in cartoons where they behave all campy and you can just tell they are gay, in real life a gay man and a straight man look physically similar so any number of Na'vi in any number of scenes could have been gay.The_Blue_Rider said:
It just wasn't something that really needed to be focussed on.
true, many of them don't even make that much senseodubya23 said:
1. Where was the smoking implied in Avatar other.
2. anatomically speaking, real life human females have less muscle density than males and so will not appear as muscular. The female Na'vi (and main humans) also seemed to have stronger personalities and kick more ass than the men.
3. OK, the copyright issues associated with this one mean it could make some sense if they were being pursued by the developers of Halo.
4. I actually saw this one on a news website. It probably says more about the people concerned than it does about the movie.
5. True originality is hard for Hollywood. They should be given credit for at least changing the time period and setting as opposed to making and releasing high school musical 4 or something.
I haven't heard of the gay/lesbian complaint before. But it does sound like complaints are becoming a major factor in news and current affairs. Maybe people's complaints will get their own TV channels in the future. Will also try to get a source for #2.
I heard that there was hidden racism in it because the main hero was white, and he was like saving non-white or something.
Clearly thats massively offensive and racist.
Clearly thats massively offensive and racist.
I really think we should look at all of the controversy and have one big facepalm: Both the Republican party and the Chinese government think that the movie is bad anti-them, while the public is more concerned with not being able to be reborn in Pandora. I've come to the following conclusion: my country is going to become a Dictatorship when no one is looking mostly because we'll be distracted by sparkly SFX and completely ignorant of the world around us.
Halo just has that reputation of having a fanbase full of high-schoolers who think that Halo was the first shooter ever made and invented everything ever. Also, they probably haven't seen a non-Disney movie made before 1999. (This is the stereotypical fanboy, and not representative of the Halo fans as a whole.)Vrex360 said:
Aliens was made in 1986, written and directed by James Cameron...and some people occasionally underestimate how much artistic control the director has over a movie, so I'm assuming here that Cameron had a fair amount of input into set design and props. Pretty much anything involving Space Marines from that point on borrows heavily and unabashedly from Aliens...not that there's anything wrong with it.
Unfortunately, lots of Halo fans have probably never seen Aliens because "the effects are shit" or "the 80's suck" or they just can't be bothered. They also probably have no idea how big of a gap there was between Aliens and Halo (15 years).
Personally, I think Cameron thought about his Aliens ships, saw the way Halo borrowed off of them, and made some modifications.