Poll: What is the most ridiculous controversy that has came from Avatar

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Soushi

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ItchyxBritches said:
Soushi said:
ItchyxBritches said:
Soushi said:
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
manaman said:
They didn't copy dances with wolves. They copied the Disney classic Pocahontas.
I thought they copied Ferngully, given the monster truck was a direct rip off.

Wiezzen said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARG! Stop it! Do you think that you are gonna impress anyone, change someone mind! Maybe they'll think "well... maybe I'm wrong about the movie"? Stop using someone else's humor as your own, PLEASE!!! For the love of god people, WE GET IT, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. So please, just stop pretending to be funny. People gonna like it, people gonna hate it and their is NOTHING that you can say or do that will change that.

And, I would challenge anyone to come up with a completely original story idea, something that at some level has never ever been done. You can't! Take it from me, a story writer, that
original ideas are never totally original, just original in degrees. Even if you wrote a story about a Cucumber which journeyed across cyberspace to find a magic maguffin that turns cake into pinecones, is gonna be similar on some level to another story.

Just stop all of this bullshit! Those who like the movie can go off and watch it, and those who hate it can go somewhere far away from me. But stop, just stop, this mindless, endless repitiion of teh same bullshit that was funny the first 10 times, but on time 12,589, it is wearing THIN!
Dude, its called a joke. Way to crybaby about it.
It's not a joke if it isn't funny, or has been told hundreds of times.
joke  [johk]
?noun
1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Joke)
Note that it doesn't say it has to succeed in making someone laugh.
I will have to disagree then, cause i'll be damned if I trust everything that a book tells me, even if it is a dictionary. Besides, if a comedian told a joke that wasn't funny and nobody laughed, it wasn't a joke, it was a flop. One way or another, all i am saying is that this unintuitive and way over-done pool of dry and inane 'wit' needs to fuck off. If people wanna keep chuckling away to themselves, that's fine, but just stop trying to ruin it for other people. You aren't funny, you are just repeating the same overdone crap.
I think most of the people on this thread liked the movie, they're just trying to add some humor. Anyway it sounds like you're trying to tell me that you've never heard a funny joke, and repeated it to your friends? What do you talk about then? Different brands of bread? How fantastic corn flakes are? The joys of Desert Bus?
Ha ha, you do have a point. I just wish that people would stop trying to ruin it for others by using jokes that have been repeated, not just a few times, but lots of times. Either way, it doesn't really matter. I guess the trick is to keep it from bothering you.
I just find it hair-rendingly irritating at times. But, perhaps i need to take a note out of my own book, and realize that some are gonna hate it, others gonna love it, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
*sigh* still, i wish someone had taken me up on my challenge to create something totally original. I was hoping for some funny shit to brighten my bleak and humorless day.
 

ItchyxBritches

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Soushi said:
ItchyxBritches said:
Soushi said:
ItchyxBritches said:
Soushi said:
ItchyxBritches said:
Soushi said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
manaman said:
They didn't copy dances with wolves. They copied the Disney classic Pocahontas.
I thought they copied Ferngully, given the monster truck was a direct rip off.

Wiezzen said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARG! Stop it! Do you think that you are gonna impress anyone, change someone mind! Maybe they'll think "well... maybe I'm wrong about the movie"? Stop using someone else's humor as your own, PLEASE!!! For the love of god people, WE GET IT, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. So please, just stop pretending to be funny. People gonna like it, people gonna hate it and their is NOTHING that you can say or do that will change that.

And, I would challenge anyone to come up with a completely original story idea, something that at some level has never ever been done. You can't! Take it from me, a story writer, that
original ideas are never totally original, just original in degrees. Even if you wrote a story about a Cucumber which journeyed across cyberspace to find a magic maguffin that turns cake into pinecones, is gonna be similar on some level to another story.

Just stop all of this bullshit! Those who like the movie can go off and watch it, and those who hate it can go somewhere far away from me. But stop, just stop, this mindless, endless repitiion of teh same bullshit that was funny the first 10 times, but on time 12,589, it is wearing THIN!
Dude, its called a joke. Way to crybaby about it.
It's not a joke if it isn't funny, or has been told hundreds of times.
joke  [johk]
?noun
1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Joke)
Note that it doesn't say it has to succeed in making someone laugh.
I will have to disagree then, cause i'll be damned if I trust everything that a book tells me, even if it is a dictionary. Besides, if a comedian told a joke that wasn't funny and nobody laughed, it wasn't a joke, it was a flop. One way or another, all i am saying is that this unintuitive and way over-done pool of dry and inane 'wit' needs to fuck off. If people wanna keep chuckling away to themselves, that's fine, but just stop trying to ruin it for other people. You aren't funny, you are just repeating the same overdone crap.
I think most of the people on this thread liked the movie, they're just trying to add some humor. Anyway it sounds like you're trying to tell me that you've never heard a funny joke, and repeated it to your friends? What do you talk about then? Different brands of bread? How fantastic corn flakes are? The joys of Desert Bus?
Ha ha, you do have a point. I just wish that people would stop trying to ruin it for others by using jokes that have been repeated, not just a few times, but lots of times. Either way, it doesn't really matter. I guess the trick is to keep it from bothering you.
I just find it hair-rendingly irritating at times. But, perhaps i need to take a note out of my own book, and realize that some are gonna hate it, others gonna love it, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
*sigh* still, i wish someone had taken me up on my challenge to create something totally original. I was hoping for some funny shit to brighten my bleak and humorless day.
I can see where hearing the same jokes over and over can be annoying, so i do see your side too, (stupid orange and banana knock knock joke!!), but my point was that the posters were just injecting something that they thought others would find funny. I'm glad that you're able to shrug it off tho. TBH I was in a bit of an argumentive(sp?) mood when I first started posting anyway.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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I'm going to go with the Avatar depression. Complaints about copied storylines and knee jerk reactions to any attempt to corrupt the youth are to be expected. I was not prepared for the revelation that people would become depressed over not being able to visit Pandora.
 

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There's freaking smoking EVERYWHERE!

Singularly Datarific said:
Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
Off topic: Holy crap, you look exactly like my brother.
On Topic: Really people? Ripping off halo? Halo ripped off aliens!

Yeah...no...I don't see any rip-off between those two vehicles.
 

funguy2121

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Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
Were feminists actually complaining about this movie? The only loud noise I've heard out of the feminist camp lately is protest of Focus on The Family's anti-abortion super bowl ad.

The Halo thing is funny, though. Someone needs to sit these kids down and let 'em know that the world existed before Bungie. Hell, maybe Bungie could do it. Didn't they cite Cameron's Aliens as an inspiration? 'Cos it sure as hell was one.




There's no way to satirize this, it's already self-parodying.
 

funguy2121

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link within said:
I don't think it matters they copied the ships from halo. I mean, halo just ripped them off from the alien movies anyway.
Hello, same director!
 

Captain Blackout

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Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
You forgot the most ridiculous one of all: That it's a leftist Commie plot to undermine good conservative values. I think your poll is fail without that option.
 

funguy2121

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Is anyone else getting the sudden major itch to pay mininova a visit?

"Get away from her, you *****!"
 

Captain Blackout

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MetalGenocide said:
[sarcasm]Avatar TOTALLY didn't ripoff the real world.[/sarcasm]
There's a reason for this effect. It's called "using a medium and a story to show us to ourselves." And Avatar did a decent (I didn't say outstanding, don't get freaky on me) job.
 

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The smoking one grinded my gears, mostly because the person who did smoke came across as a total ***** at the time, and the whole part about her demanding a cigarette appeared to be there, just to show how she treats everyone around her like her lackeys.

I'd never heard of the one about the female Navi being less muscular, and that one clearly makes no sense either.
 

Chunko

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I can sympathize with "copied from halo" but really who cares. Everyone copies everyone, halo is copying pong in that it is an interactive game.
 

Rensenhito

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Well, for starters, it IS a blatant rip-off of Dances With Wolves... and Pocahontas... AND Fern Gully.
But the most ridiculous "controversy" surrounding the movie is that Feminists think the female Na'vi's lack of muscular beefiness is some symbol of subservience. I mean, Neytiri kicked more ass in that movie (especially in the earlier parts) than Jake. Besides that, it's a scientific fact that women just can't get quite as muscular as men can. No beef against them; they've got flexibility and attractiveness over us by a long shot.
 

RelexCryo

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Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
2. No question whatsoever, 2. Women aren't as muscular as men in real life-not as a result of culture, but a lack of testosterone. And if you believe that the lack of muscle makes women physically inferior, then you inherently accept that women in real life are physically inferior. One can only accept that women are equal by rejecting the idea that equivalent muscle mass is necessary to be equal. The very nature of the objection raised by feminists implies that women are inferior in real life.
 

Mr. Squee

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TheFacelessOne said:
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There's freaking smoking EVERYWHERE!

Singularly Datarific said:
Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
Off topic: Holy crap, you look exactly like my brother.
On Topic: Really people? Ripping off halo? Halo ripped off aliens!

Yeah...no...I don't see any rip-off between those two vehicles.
Thats because I am your brother.
 

Mr. Squee

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Captain Blackout said:
Mr. Squee said:
Im split between 2 and 3
You forgot the most ridiculous one of all: That it's a leftist Commie plot to undermine good conservative values. I think your poll is fail without that option.
Hey that goes without saying, if I would throw a rock into a lake it would threaten the good God-fearing conservatives in some way.