Poll: Which do you prefer: Fallout 3 or New Vegas?

[Vivec93]

I hated New Vegas for three reasons, the first reason is the bugs. In my 13 hours of gameplay I experienced countless graphical and texture issues, my save being deleted, animations failing, dialogue not playing, game breaking bugs where I couldn't carry on with my quest and issues with my gun animation.

This is unacceptable, I can't believe people claim it's a better game when the amount of bugs made it almost unplayable. But whatever, most of the bugs are patched, at least the main ones such as the save games being deleted

Second reason is, being shot in the head and buried alive. People criticise Fallout 3' story in every single way possible but being shot in the head and buried alive would get you killed even with our medicine, let alone scarce resources in the wastelands. On top of that if being shot in the head at the start was such a problem for you earlier, then how can I shoot people in the head and they don't even flinch. Also me being shot in the head after is fine after the opening scene. It irritates me no end that New Vegas fans are cool with this, it is a massive plot hole and as far as I got it was never explained why that bullet was so much more effective than others.

My final criticism is that so many enemies are there to just soak up bullets. I've shot several clips into peoples heads, bodies, arms and legs and they don't even flinch. What the hell? I know you need to make progression and the developers wanted New Vegas to be more difficult but it just feels like a waste of time shooting some people.

I will accept that the support characters are better, the gameplay is better because it doesn't rely on VATs all the time like 3 and the writing does get pretty at points. However those 3 points have always stopped me enjoying NV

People have surived being shot in the head before. If we take the in-game stats Benny couldn't have killed the courier because the minimum health is 120 and even if he had better criticals also Maria isn't the strongest handgun. I agree with the bullet sponges in this I wasted alot of ammo in Old World Blues(lost all my .308s,.45s, and 12.7 bullets).

Edit: Doc Mitchell was a vault doctor so I assume he had alot of medical experience compared to other doctors in the wasteland.

 

[DigitalSushi]

The G.E.C.K didn't explode there were a couple of grenades(not frags)to knock you out. Where and how did you get the G.E.C.K to explode?

It explodes when you choose to activate it, then it explodes. And I can't remember it exactly but I think a message comes up saying something along the lines of terraforming everything around it, so we can assume the explosion is the GECKs intended action.

I've read every single message on this thread, and I've gotta say I agree with Chupa 100%

I want Chupa to have my children, seriously, take them from me, they are pissing me off.

Wow, someone actually read my wall of text, and none other than my favourite moderator

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[King of the Sandbox]

I enjoyed New Vegas most, mostly because Fallout 2 was my favorite of the series, and this one was more in line with it's style and setting.

 

[The Rockerfly]

People have surived being shot in the head before. If we take the in-game stats Benny couldn't have killed the courier because the minimum health is 120 and even if he had better criticals also Maria isn't the strongest handgun. I agree with the bullet sponges in this I wasted alot of ammo in Old World Blues(lost all my .308s,.45s, and 12.7 bullets).

Agreed but the survival rate is ridiculously low and even then they buried alive. If the bullet didn't kill him then the lack of oxygen would have, if that hadn't killed him, infection from the wound of a bullet. Some people can survive these days because we have lots of readily available resources but there is little medical supplies in Goodsprings. It just sounds bullshitty to me

But then if one shot to the head knocks you out for several hours then why aren't other bullets as effective? That whole scene seems a bit out of place because of its inconsistency with the actual gameplay.

I don't think I got that far but I have shot well over 90 bullets into some enemies without them dying

 

[Funkysandwich]

The G.E.C.K didn't explode there were a couple of grenades(not frags)to knock you out. Where and how did you get the G.E.C.K to explode?

It explodes when you choose to activate it, then it explodes. And I can't remember it exactly but I think a message comes up saying something along the lines of terraforming everything around it, so we can assume the explosion is the GECKs intended action.

In Fallout 2 it is mentioned that the GECK is somewhat unreliable. Ergo, it is possible that it may malfunction and explode.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Vegas. New Vegas.
--Story actually interests me (politics was always something that managed to hold my interest, particularly if it was drenched in blood and conflict).
--Characters are characters and not just one-dimensional cardboard cutouts to provide exposition and filler for an unapologetically "symbolic" (read: full of bible references) plot about Liam Neeson and Jr.
--While Fallout 3 was certainly closer to most post-apocalyptic fictional words in it's feel, that is not all what Fallout is about. Take out the quirky and the occasional moments of hilarity, and you've got something... different. Not necessarily bad (though I think in this case it did hurt the game), but not quite Fallout.
--Improved gameplay and faaaaaaar better DLCs. That's cool too. Plus I really like the whole foreshadowing and build-up they are doing, starting with the main game, progressing through Dead Money, Old World Blues, Honest Hearts (even if it is just a passing reference to Ulysses... one that might be pretty important afterall), and culminating in the soon-to-be-released Lonesome Road. Obsidian knows how to build "mythos".

In short, New Vegas wins over Fallout 3 in every single category I can judge a game in.

 

[Vivec93]

People have surived being shot in the head before. If we take the in-game stats Benny couldn't have killed the courier because the minimum health is 120 and even if he had better criticals also Maria isn't the strongest handgun. I agree with the bullet sponges in this I wasted alot of ammo in Old World Blues(lost all my .308s,.45s, and 12.7 bullets).

Agreed but the survival rate is ridiculously low and even then they buried alive. If the bullet didn't kill him then the lack of oxygen would have, if that hadn't killed him, infection from the wound of a bullet. Some people can survive these days because we have lots of readily available resources but there is little medical supplies in Goodsprings. It just sounds bullshitty to me

But then if one shot to the head knocks you out for several hours then why aren't other bullets as effective? That whole scene seems a bit out of place because of its inconsistency with the actual gameplay.

I don't think I got that far but I have shot well over 90 bullets into some enemies without them dying

The courier wasn't buried alive very good I would link the picture, but I don't know how to(you can find it if you go the the Vault or watch the video again).All they did was put some dirt on the body while the hands and feet was still exposed so I assume they didn't cover the head as well which is a bit odd, but Benny isn't the brightest bulb.

 

[The Rockerfly]

The courier wasn't buried alive very good I would link the picture, but I don't know how to(you can find it if you go the the Vault or watch the video again).All they did was put some dirt on the body while the hands and feet was still exposed so I assume they didn't cover the head as well which is a bit odd, but Benny isn't the brightest bulb.

But then the head was still covered so the wound would still be dirty and you do it by [image ] insert the image link [ /image] and remove the spaces

 

[Knight Captain Kerr]

I would have to say New Vegas. It is the old meets the new and becomes the best of both worlds.

 

[GundamSentinel]

Fallout 3. If felt more polished and like it had more in it. I liked the Capitol Wasteland, the quests and the music. I didn't get the same satisfaction from New Vegas. It felt like I had a lot less freedom. And for me Fallout 3 was less buggy.

 

[seraphy]

New Vegas is better game, with better story and better characters, and better factions.

To be frank I can't think of anything that Fallout 3 did better?

Fallout 3 wasn't bad game by any stretch but it wasn't very good in my mind either.

 

[Pandabearparade]

Name one plot failure in F3.

Someone made a nice list of more than one above, but I'll add a couple to it.
-Why exactly does President Eden, the super-smart artificial intelligence, give the crux of his (retarded) plan to a known enemy? He forces you to take it even if you tell him openly that his plan is bullshit.
-Why did the President want to put the FEV in the water in the first place? Cutting your breeding population down to a hundred is called a population bottleneck, and causes severe problems for a species. A super computer should know more about biology than me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck

the "Courier with amnesia bullshit" is too old.

At what point did the game -ever- tell you that your character has amnesia? Your background is left blank so you can play the character you want. In Fallout 3 you were railroaded through one (bad) story, with one possible character, to one possible ending. I'll take no details over a forced, poorly written history every time.

 

[ChupathingyX]

the "Courier with amnesia bullshit" is too old.

At what point did the game -ever- tell you that your character has amnesia? Your background is left blank so you can play the character you want.

It doesn't, everyone just assumes the Courier has amnesia because Extra Credits said that in one of their episodes, even though there is no proof of this.

 

[Pandabearparade]

To be frank I can't think of anything that Fallout 3 did better?

The music, man. The music.

Also, I have to grudgingly admit that Fallout 3 did have more to explore.

 

[Rynozeros]

I like the extra control you get with New Vegas to play how you want to play i.e. not being having to be "nice" to the Brotherhood (or the Good Guys) to complete the game, but Fallout 3 has a few more memorable moments (Andale, Tranquilty Lane, Raven Rock, Tenpenny Tower, Paradise Falls, The Vaults, Republic of Dave, etc ... and of course Megaton).

They are different branches of the same tree. One is more linear with better set-pieces. The other has more options and better choices. They both have atmospheres that befit setting.

The DLC on the other hand is easy, The Pitt

To answer the original question, I liked both enough to put in 300+ hours in each, but I am gonna have to go with Fallout 3 with Three Dog clinching home the otherwise neck and neck race for Team Fallout 3.

 

[Pierce Graham]

Honestly, I've never read any reviews for New Vegas. Actually, I never read any game reviews. I play the game myself before having an opinion on it. I don't think it's a need for validation.
(for example, my favorite game of all time is Oblivion and people think I'm nuts.) I was honestly curious. I've seen many mixed opinions on the matter in forums.
Personally, I found that New Vegas was great. But in my opinion, not as good as Fallout 3.

 

[Iwata]

I'm really having a hard time choosing, so I'll just go with both equally.

 

[RadioactiveMicrobe]

Name one plot failure in F3.

*How the hell does a society of small children manage to survive and procreate? And why haven't they been massacred by the Super Mutants yet?

That's easy.

Because kids in Fallout are damn invincible.

Have you ever tried to shoot one? They don't die. They just run around in circles and cry.

They don't need to procreate, they just go around the wasteland sometimes, finding other invincible kids who's non-invincible parents died, and take them in.

That's why we're called "mungos." Because we are a lesser being to them, with our vulnerable bodies. When they turn 16, something in their body snaps, or breaks, and they are mortal again.

The children do not like such filth in their utopia, so they get banished.