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EinTheCorgi

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ProfessorLayton said:
AWAR said:
Unpopular opinion?! Weird isn't it?
It's not just a matter of unpopular opinion... it's the fact that the Nazis were cruel and racist. The slaughter of millions is never justified, even if you fought and died for your ideals.

They're both bad people... you can't really judge evilness.
good and evil are opinions not facts. Cannibalism is considered "evil" but I would rather kill and eat another human than sit and slowly die from starvation. Pedophilia is also considered "evil" yet back in the day girls were being married off and having kids before they turned 12! There is no good/evil only life and existence.
 

Omikron009

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I think it's pretty clear that the Nazis are worse. Sure, the Taliban are terrible, but the Nazis were....the Nazis.
 

ProfessorLayton

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AWAR said:
Depends on how you define good and evil. They are heavily subjective terms.
Yeah, but I really don't see what good comes out of killing millions of innocent people... sure, no one is innocent and they all probably deserved to die (much like you and I) but the Nazis seemed like they wanted to be God and be the final judgment.

And I also have this to say: If murder isn't all that evil to you, what's stopping you from doing it yourself?
 

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AxCx said:
I guess the taliban are not racist at all, thats also why they hate the west, tolerate none of our ideals and would love to see us all die in a fire.
Well I never said that. They're racists as well.
 

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Therumancer said:
I know many are going to disagree, but these are my thoughts.
I agree with you completely. it isn't "the taliban" we are fighting against, it is really an entire way of life. It the purest form of the Muslim faith that we are at war with. What others do not udnerstand is that if christianity were alive in the US in it's purest form, we would have the same issues with radical christians killing 16 year old girls who had sex before marrage and bombing places of business that are open on sunday. We already have radical christians bombing abortion clinics and killing OBGYN Dr's. Until we pull our head our of our asses and realize that this includes women, children, civilians, and soldiers then we will continue to play this losing game with them.
 

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Subzerowings said:
The Taliban aren't shit compared to the Nazi's.
Nazi's killed 6 million Jews, which is more than the Taliban has ever done.
I find it morbid that we have to discuss something like this.
Wouldn't that mean that the Taliban are shit compared to the Nazi's? Since we're measuring success in genocide anyway.

And I know its probably simply the easiest stastic to remember, but people really shouldn't forget everyone else who was slaughtered/mistreated. The homosexuals, Gypsi's (if that's how you spell it), and pretty much everyone else who wasn't white. (would atleast have been next on the list)

Digitaldreamer7 said:
Therumancer said:
I know many are going to disagree, but these are my thoughts.
I agree with you completely. it isn't "the taliban" we are fighting against, it is really an entire way of life. It the purest form of the Muslim faith that we are at war with. What others do not udnerstand is that if christianity were alive in the US in it's purest form, we would have the same issues with radical christians killing 16 year old girls who had sex before marrage and bombing places of business that are open on sunday. We already have radical christians bombing abortion clinics and killing OBGYN Dr's. Until we pull our head our of our asses and realize that this includes women, children, civilians, and soldiers then we will continue to play this losing game with them.
You're absolutely right that we're fighting a culture (and at the same time trying to protect it through some sort of misguided aim at liberty), but I have to differ on thinking that the 'extremist' form of a religion is not the 'purest'.
 

SyphonX

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The Taliban.. lol.

I are worse.

There are many organizations worse than the Taliban. It's just that the US and other countries are "at war", so to speak, and the propaganda machines are running hot, making all the idiots believe that the "Taliban" are super-devils and the worst thing this world has ever seen.

Newsflash.. *!Statist propaganda alert!*
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Also, this
Judas Iscariot said:
The US coalition forces.
We've killed thousands of civilians, including women and children, in our pursuit for justice, revenge and... *cough*.. spreading democracy.
 

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ProfessorLayton said:
AWAR said:
Unpopular opinion?! Weird isn't it?
It's not just a matter of unpopular opinion... it's the fact that the Nazis were cruel and racist. The slaughter of millions is never justified, even if you fought and died for your ideals.

They're both bad people... you can't really judge evilness.

Our entire world is built upon killing millions for our own ideals, yes wrong but not particularly worse.
 

AWAR

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ProfessorLayton said:
AWAR said:
Depends on how you define good and evil. They are heavily subjective terms.
Yeah, but I really don't see what good comes out of killing millions of innocent people... sure, no one is innocent and they all probably deserved to die (much like you and I) but the Nazis seemed like they wanted to be God and be the final judgment.

And I also have this to say: If murder isn't all that evil to you, what's stopping you from doing it yourself?
I don't believe in the notions of "good" and "evil". We are all by products of a certain society, consequently murder is considered "evil" and immoral. Nazi society considered putting away millions of "genetically inferior" people as a moral and just thing to do.
 

EinTheCorgi

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ProfessorLayton said:
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I guess the taliban are not racist at all, thats also why they hate the west, tolerate none of our ideals and would love to see us all die in a fire.
Well I never said that. They're racists as well.
How do you describe racism In your world anyway?
 

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I'm gonna have go to with Taliban, for the simple fact that not all German soldiers during WW2 were Nazis.

The term Nazi was given to the people that supported Hitlers regime. German soldiers during WW2 were not allowed to have a political preference. Many of them were simply soldiers doing their job, and some were even forced to fight due to conscription and/or the thread of murdering their families.

Being a soldier of Germany in WW2 does not make you a Nazi. I think most people are voting on the basis that all German soldiers were Nazis. Don't get me wrong, what the actual Nazis did was horrible beyond belief, but you can't lump the regular soldiers into it simply because they were German.

To be a member of the Taliban, you must follow their beliefs and strive for the same goal.
 

ProfessorLayton

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AWAR said:
I don't believe in the notions of "good" and "evil". We are all by products of a certain society, consequently murder is considered "evil" and immoral. Nazi society considered putting away millions of "genetically inferior" people as a moral and just thing to do.
Imagine this. You come home to find everyone you've ever known or loved or cared about in some way murdered right in your living room. And then you see the person who did it standing in the room. I highly doubt you would just act like it was alright because he thought it wasn't wrong.

And please, what's stopping you from murder? Because you perceive it as wrong? And if so, why? I really want to know.

EinTheCorgi said:
How do you describe racism In your world anyway?
Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

You can't argue with that.
 

Life_Is_A_Mess

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I don't know why you think Nazis are worse.

Both them and the Talibans killed millions of people. The Talibans even cause disasters in foreign countries, and work in undercover to bring down the local governments. Compared to the Talibans, the Nazis were dumb. Still, the Nazis killed lots of people and invaded lots of countries. So, they're even.

But the Talibans aren't over yet, so they might just beat the Nazis by the number of atrocities they will make in the years to come.