good and evil are opinions not facts. Cannibalism is considered "evil" but I would rather kill and eat another human than sit and slowly die from starvation. Pedophilia is also considered "evil" yet back in the day girls were being married off and having kids before they turned 12! There is no good/evil only life and existence.ProfessorLayton said:It's not just a matter of unpopular opinion... it's the fact that the Nazis were cruel and racist. The slaughter of millions is never justified, even if you fought and died for your ideals.AWAR said:Unpopular opinion?! Weird isn't it?
They're both bad people... you can't really judge evilness.
Yeah, but I really don't see what good comes out of killing millions of innocent people... sure, no one is innocent and they all probably deserved to die (much like you and I) but the Nazis seemed like they wanted to be God and be the final judgment.AWAR said:Depends on how you define good and evil. They are heavily subjective terms.
Well I never said that. They're racists as well.AxCx said:I guess the taliban are not racist at all, thats also why they hate the west, tolerate none of our ideals and would love to see us all die in a fire.
I agree with you completely. it isn't "the taliban" we are fighting against, it is really an entire way of life. It the purest form of the Muslim faith that we are at war with. What others do not udnerstand is that if christianity were alive in the US in it's purest form, we would have the same issues with radical christians killing 16 year old girls who had sex before marrage and bombing places of business that are open on sunday. We already have radical christians bombing abortion clinics and killing OBGYN Dr's. Until we pull our head our of our asses and realize that this includes women, children, civilians, and soldiers then we will continue to play this losing game with them.Therumancer said:I know many are going to disagree, but these are my thoughts.
Wouldn't that mean that the Taliban are shit compared to the Nazi's? Since we're measuring success in genocide anyway.Subzerowings said:The Taliban aren't shit compared to the Nazi's.
Nazi's killed 6 million Jews, which is more than the Taliban has ever done.
I find it morbid that we have to discuss something like this.
You're absolutely right that we're fighting a culture (and at the same time trying to protect it through some sort of misguided aim at liberty), but I have to differ on thinking that the 'extremist' form of a religion is not the 'purest'.Digitaldreamer7 said:I agree with you completely. it isn't "the taliban" we are fighting against, it is really an entire way of life. It the purest form of the Muslim faith that we are at war with. What others do not udnerstand is that if christianity were alive in the US in it's purest form, we would have the same issues with radical christians killing 16 year old girls who had sex before marrage and bombing places of business that are open on sunday. We already have radical christians bombing abortion clinics and killing OBGYN Dr's. Until we pull our head our of our asses and realize that this includes women, children, civilians, and soldiers then we will continue to play this losing game with them.Therumancer said:I know many are going to disagree, but these are my thoughts.
We've killed thousands of civilians, including women and children, in our pursuit for justice, revenge and... *cough*.. spreading democracy.Judas Iscariot said:The US coalition forces.
ProfessorLayton said:It's not just a matter of unpopular opinion... it's the fact that the Nazis were cruel and racist. The slaughter of millions is never justified, even if you fought and died for your ideals.AWAR said:Unpopular opinion?! Weird isn't it?
They're both bad people... you can't really judge evilness.
I don't believe in the notions of "good" and "evil". We are all by products of a certain society, consequently murder is considered "evil" and immoral. Nazi society considered putting away millions of "genetically inferior" people as a moral and just thing to do.ProfessorLayton said:Yeah, but I really don't see what good comes out of killing millions of innocent people... sure, no one is innocent and they all probably deserved to die (much like you and I) but the Nazis seemed like they wanted to be God and be the final judgment.AWAR said:Depends on how you define good and evil. They are heavily subjective terms.
And I also have this to say: If murder isn't all that evil to you, what's stopping you from doing it yourself?
How do you describe racism In your world anyway?ProfessorLayton said:Well I never said that. They're racists as well.AxCx said:I guess the taliban are not racist at all, thats also why they hate the west, tolerate none of our ideals and would love to see us all die in a fire.
Do I even need to say why this is stupid?henritje said:we all know that the UK wans to ban MOH
Imagine this. You come home to find everyone you've ever known or loved or cared about in some way murdered right in your living room. And then you see the person who did it standing in the room. I highly doubt you would just act like it was alright because he thought it wasn't wrong.AWAR said:I don't believe in the notions of "good" and "evil". We are all by products of a certain society, consequently murder is considered "evil" and immoral. Nazi society considered putting away millions of "genetically inferior" people as a moral and just thing to do.
Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.EinTheCorgi said:How do you describe racism In your world anyway?