Poll: Who would win in a fight? Harry Potter or Vegeta?

[Stephen O'Hagan]

I was discussing this with my girlfriend and we have very opposing views.

She thinks Vegeta would win, and if it was just a brawl, he probably would, but taking everything about the characters into account I think Potter would be the victor.

Think about it, Vegeta basically lets Cell upgrade so he can get a challenge, then fails miserably. He lets Majin Buu get released, again, for a challenge, but fails miserably against him.
Vegeta would look at Potter, laugh, then offer him a free hit. All Potter would have to do is either stupify, or avada kadavra. Fight would be over.

Plus, Harry's protected by the most powerful spell of all. His mum's love. (aww)

What do you guys think?

 

[Stephen O'Hagan]

It's clearly a relationship ending arguement....

 

[Princess cuntingham]

It's the girlfriend here.
Bare in mind that vegeta can dodge like f**k any pathetic attacks Harry throws his way will be swiftly avoided and followed up with a life ending punch to the back.
Need I say more?

 

[Princess cuntingham]

I got shouted at off the website for swearing. Sorry guys.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Vegeta gets my vote. Harry doesn't use the killing spell, and if Vegeta did give him a free hit, odds are it wouldn't do much. Harry's spells are about stunning or disarming, both things that Vegeta can take in droves. There's also the fact that he's not human, so magic might not even work on him. Saiyans are tougher than normal humans, so I doubt Vegeta's going down with just one spell.

On the flip side, Vegeta has one thing that Harry simply can't hope to match. It's not his power, it's not the fact that he's a Super Saiyan, it's not the fact that he can deflect pure energy with his hand, or even the fact that he has no problem wasting his opponent.
It's his speed.
As we've seen time and time again in the Dragon Ball universe, these fighters push themselves beyond human limits. Recall, in the Cell saga, that once the fight got serious, normal people could no longer follow the action. All the Z fighters just stood there, moving their eyes, but the TV crew saw nothing. They thought the people had vanished. Vegeta just needs to push his speed up to that and Harry would not be able to keep up. This is borderline teleporting for the Z fighters, and Vegeta is one of the strongest ones. It really wouldn't be a contest.

 

[Stephen O'Hagan]

Vegeta gets my vote. Harry doesn't use the killing spell, and if Vegeta did give him a free hit, odds are it wouldn't do much. Harry's spells are about stunning or disarming, both things that Vegeta can take in droves. There's also the fact that he's not human, so magic might not even work on him. Saiyans are tougher than normal humans, so I doubt Vegeta's going down with just one spell.

On the flip side, Vegeta has one thing that Harry simply can't hope to match. It's not his power, it's not the fact that he's a Super Saiyan, it's not the fact that he can deflect pure energy with his hand, or even the fact that he has no problem wasting his opponent.
It's his speed.
As we've seen time and time again in the Dragon Ball universe, these fighters push themselves beyond human limits. Recall, in the Cell saga, that once the fight got serious, normal people could no longer follow the action. All the Z fighters just stood there, moving their eyes, but the TV crew saw nothing. They thought the people had vanished. Vegeta just needs to push his speed up to that and Harry would not be able to keep up. This is borderline teleporting for the Z fighters, and Vegeta is one of the strongest ones. It really wouldn't be a contest.

All Harry would need is a time dilation spell and it would render Vegeta's speed useless. Magic does work on Vegeta (Babadi's possesion spell, dragoballs themselves) so there would be a ridiculous number of speels that could deal with him.

That being said, if Vegeta wasn't arrogant or cocky, which he always is, he might have a chance.

 

[Rabbitboy]

How is this even up for discussion? Even if Harry avadakedavra'd him Vegeta would just come back from the afterlife. Afterall he has done so multiple times already.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

Vegeta gets my vote. Harry doesn't use the killing spell, and if Vegeta did give him a free hit, odds are it wouldn't do much. Harry's spells are about stunning or disarming, both things that Vegeta can take in droves. There's also the fact that he's not human, so magic might not even work on him. Saiyans are tougher than normal humans, so I doubt Vegeta's going down with just one spell.

On the flip side, Vegeta has one thing that Harry simply can't hope to match. It's not his power, it's not the fact that he's a Super Saiyan, it's not the fact that he can deflect pure energy with his hand, or even the fact that he has no problem wasting his opponent.
It's his speed.
As we've seen time and time again in the Dragon Ball universe, these fighters push themselves beyond human limits. Recall, in the Cell saga, that once the fight got serious, normal people could no longer follow the action. All the Z fighters just stood there, moving their eyes, but the TV crew saw nothing. They thought the people had vanished. Vegeta just needs to push his speed up to that and Harry would not be able to keep up. This is borderline teleporting for the Z fighters, and Vegeta is one of the strongest ones. It really wouldn't be a contest.

All Harry would need is a time dilation spell and it would render Vegeta's speed useless. Magic does work on Vegeta (Babadi's possesion spell, dragoballs themselves) so there would be a ridiculous number of speels that could deal with him.

That being said, if Vegeta wasn't arrogant or cocky, which he always is, he might have a chance.

And with that, you've turned it into the classic 'Who would win, Batman or Superman' argument, Harry Potter being Batman, Vegeta being Superman.

Classy. And redundant.

So Harry wins if he has the time to prep (As would Batman) and Vegeta wins hands down, no contest if its an unplanned encounter (As would Superman).

There. Two plus decades of arguments condensed into one sentence. Thank god its over now.

You're welcome.

 

[sextus the crazy]

And with that, you've turned it into the classic 'Who would win, Batman or Superman' argument, Harry Potter being Batman, Vegeta being Superman.

Classy. And redundant.

So Harry wins if he has the time to prep (As would Batman) and Vegeta wins hands down, no contest if its an unplanned encounter (As would Superman).

There. Two plus decades of arguments condensed into one sentence. Thank god its over now.

You're welcome.

Finally! We're free!

OT: Vegeta, thus ones pretty obvious.

 

[Aerosteam]

We're dealing with a protagonist featured in a book series where the power of friendship can win fights and a main character whose primary trait is that his over-confident personally makes him lose all the time. If we're going solely by that, Harry would win.

However, going by sheer combat prowess, Vegeta wins hands down.

 

[Pseudonym]

I voted against Vegeta on principle. The principle being that I really don't like Vegeta. He'd probably run off and cower in fear, then toss harry potter something to make potter more powerful, then get angry over something or other diluting his judgement further and eventually just lose without Goku to clean up his mess. Really, how many fights has Vegeta actually won in the series? How many enemies has he helped for the stupidest of reasons?

Granted I wouldn't know what happens after around the time timetraveling robots are introduced into DBZ and I've heard that around the time he is fighting buu which I haven't watched he turns into a decent person somehow so maybe he actually grows a brain once he is super saiyan 12b deluxe edition.

 

[Stephen O'Hagan]

Spoiler

Vegeta gets my vote. Harry doesn't use the killing spell, and if Vegeta did give him a free hit, odds are it wouldn't do much. Harry's spells are about stunning or disarming, both things that Vegeta can take in droves. There's also the fact that he's not human, so magic might not even work on him. Saiyans are tougher than normal humans, so I doubt Vegeta's going down with just one spell.

On the flip side, Vegeta has one thing that Harry simply can't hope to match. It's not his power, it's not the fact that he's a Super Saiyan, it's not the fact that he can deflect pure energy with his hand, or even the fact that he has no problem wasting his opponent.
It's his speed.
As we've seen time and time again in the Dragon Ball universe, these fighters push themselves beyond human limits. Recall, in the Cell saga, that once the fight got serious, normal people could no longer follow the action. All the Z fighters just stood there, moving their eyes, but the TV crew saw nothing. They thought the people had vanished. Vegeta just needs to push his speed up to that and Harry would not be able to keep up. This is borderline teleporting for the Z fighters, and Vegeta is one of the strongest ones. It really wouldn't be a contest.

All Harry would need is a time dilation spell and it would render Vegeta's speed useless. Magic does work on Vegeta (Babadi's possesion spell, dragoballs themselves) so there would be a ridiculous number of speels that could deal with him.

That being said, if Vegeta wasn't arrogant or cocky, which he always is, he might have a chance.

And with that, you've turned it into the classic 'Who would win, Batman or Superman' argument, Harry Potter being Batman, Vegeta being Superman.

Classy. And redundant.

So Harry wins if he has the time to prep (As would Batman) and Vegeta wins hands down, no contest if its an unplanned encounter (As would Superman).

There. Two plus decades of arguments condensed into one sentence. Thank god its over now.

You're welcome.

Your work here is done. Go. Your people need you.

 

[Dalek Caan]

Even though I have no idea who Vegeta is I'm still going to vote for him because without his friends, especially ones like Hermione, Harry wouldn't have any clue what to do. Without back-up he could have died like 7 or 8 times by now.

 

[Stephen O'Hagan]

Even though I have no idea who Vegeta is I'm still going to vote for him because without his friends, especially ones like Hermione, Harry wouldn't have any clue what to do. Without back-up he could have died like 7 or 8 times by now.

Yeah Vegeta is worse than Harry for that. He starts fights, gets owned, then waits for goku to take care of it usually.

 

[FalloutJack]

I doubt the killing curse would even work on a bloody saiyan. Everything in DBZ is ridiculously overpowered, ya know. Vegeta powering up sends Harry flying. Plus, to the guy thinking he's like Batman, he's nothing like Batman at all. Now that I think of it, Death Battle needs to put Vegeta up against Batman.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Plus, to the guy thinking he's like Batman, he's nothing like Batman at all.

I was being generous.

Essentially, Bat vs Sups is what this thread is, once you start throwing in the 'But Magic Can Do Anything so SUCK IT' argument. I mean, maybe if you picked Harry Dresden, you could have an intellectual argument on the matter. But essentially what this is is 'Subpar Wizard with a Destiny vs. Physical God.'

 

[FalloutJack]

Plus, to the guy thinking he's like Batman, he's nothing like Batman at all.

I was being generous.

Essentially, Bat vs Sups is what this thread is, once you start throwing in the 'But Magic Can Do Anything so SUCK IT' argument. I mean, maybe if you picked Harry Dresden, you could have an intellectual argument on the matter. But essentially what this is is 'Subpar Wizard with a Destiny vs. Physical God.'

The magic really can't do everything. This was one of the series underlying themes, the reason Voldemort was wrong, aside from being a bald noseless git who was just blatently fucking evil. Still, if you want to put your faith in magic at this point, let's just recall that they broke that already with a flying candy ball that kicked ass. And even if that wasn't Vegeta alone, it's just too ridiculous to take magic seriously in that context.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Plus, to the guy thinking he's like Batman, he's nothing like Batman at all.

I was being generous.

Essentially, Bat vs Sups is what this thread is, once you start throwing in the 'But Magic Can Do Anything so SUCK IT' argument. I mean, maybe if you picked Harry Dresden, you could have an intellectual argument on the matter. But essentially what this is is 'Subpar Wizard with a Destiny vs. Physical God.'

The magic really can't do everything. This was one of the series underlying themes, the reason Voldemort was wrong, aside from being a bald noseless git who was just blatently fucking evil. Still, if you want to put your faith in magic at this point, let's just recall that they broke that already with a flying candy ball that kicked ass. And even if that wasn't Vegeta alone, it's just too ridiculous to take magic seriously in that context.

You seem to think I'm advocating for Harry Potter, instead of mocking someone elses ascertains.

I am unsure why.

 

[Ikasury]

Pretty sure Vegeta could sneeze and kill Harry... just sayin'~

 

[barbzilla]

I got shouted at off the website for swearing. Sorry guys.

Your language is fine, I don't know of any rules banning the word fuck as of yet. Main rule at this point is don't be a jerk, which while it is a broad statement, isn't that difficult. Also, welcome to the Escapist!

As for the discussion, Vegita. First your boytoy seems to assume that Vegita would allow potter the first hit, however the beings he has done that before with in the past are known across the universe and feared, while HP is just a boy that had mommy's love. Hell he isn't even that good at magic (or school).

For a second lets consider his theory though. Even letting HP get the first hit, Vegita is Saiyan, we don't even know if magic will work the same way on him and even if it did, it would only end up making him stronger (Saiyan's gain strength from punishment). I highly doubt HP would have the compunction to kill Vegita, and we all know that Vegita is a vengeful sort.

Now it is back to a normal 1 on 1 brawl, and Vegita would have the foresight to know to avoid his magic. So, unless HP can move faster than light itself (since Vegita can), the fight is going to go to him.