Poll: Why do players in RDR firmly expect to not be attacked while doing challenges?

[lightingbird]

Even if it doesn't sound cooperative to YOU. Its FREE ROAM, meaning everyone can do what they want and choose at any given time. Also, I don't think anyone refer to what the masses was thinking about what to expect in free roam. Just form this little poll alone it appears even on both sides and a portion in the middle.

 

[Reg5879]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

 

[Jaqen Hghar]

Sure it's a bit annoying sometimes. Like when I started out. I was level 1, I was all alone, not in a posse. A level 15 cowboy ran up to me and shot me down with a buffalo rifle or something. I spawned up, and tried to run away. He shot me down. This happened a couple of times till I just had to fight back. I managed to kill him eventually, but it still ate up a lot of time which I wanted to use on familiarizing myself with the Free Roam.

If I had started to shoot back at him right away there wouldn't be a problem. That means I am in on the fun. But when I am actively trying to run away, showing him that I do not draw my weapon... that means I do not want a fight. Repeatedly killing me as I spawn then is the act of a douchebag.
I ended up making a private Free Roam just to check out how it worked since he kept killing me.

But sometimes it is awesome. I am still a low level, and I still use the donkey. Which makes this scene quite epic. I am riding alone through Armadillo, when I see a big posse riding from Hanging Rock towards some other destination. They all swerve by me while I am shouting what I think is Mexican profanity at them. The last person in the posse is hanging back a bit. Right before he passes me he headshots me with a rifle. As my Mexican avatar slumps of his faithful donkey, El Señor, I hear the rest of the posse firing their weapons into the air. If that doesn't capture the essence of Western Movies, then I don't know what does.

 

[Reg5879]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

If people just want to fight why don't they play deathmatch?

Who knows? But in the end, it is up to them how they wanna play.

 

[Nerf Ninja]

I love how some of you seem to think it's our fault other people are dicks.

Free-for-all online multiplayer worlds are dog-eat-dog communities.

If you aren't strong or smart enough to find friends and kill before others kill you, too bad. Guess you didn't make the call, didn't adapt, and deserve to die.

What they do, however disagreeable you might find it, is within the rules of the game. They aren't breaking any rules, and they continue to apparently stomp you no matter how dishonorable you might find their tactics.

And that's what most multiplayer online games should be about.

Who said I'm incapable of fighting back or being just as cockended as they are? The difference is I choose to behave like a rational human being not a sociopath with a superiority complex who feels the need to waggle their digital dick in your face simply "because they can"

Then you have only yourself to blame for your choices. Question yourself... Is it truly such a good idea to be a self-proclaimed sane man when surrounded by multiple equivalents of the Joker?

The only way civilization won over barbarians is by being stronger and more organized. Don't expect things to be given to you on a platter.

In short, work it out for yourself. I must still clap to the makers of the game who didn't insert some kind of lame-ass controls for free-for-all behaviour in multiplayer. Cause that would be just horrible, I hate restrictive multiplayer.

you have a rather high opinion of yourself don't you?

You know why I don't enjoy getting shot constantly in free roam? because that is NOT what it was designed for, sure you can kill each other if you want but it's not what you have to do. If you really want a death match start one, don't spoil other peoples fun because you're a retard.

Have you actually tried to do the other aspects of the multiplayer? been on a hunt? now wouldn't you get slightly annoyed if whilst you're hunting some idiot thinks shooting you is going to be funny? why should I have to put up with it because it's the "manly" thing to do?

We are not barbarians, it's a computer game. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

 

[lightingbird]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

Exactly my point. You nailed it. They should have made a Coop Roam so people that can't handle the stress of pvp can do that instead. Well wait, they made private setups so that's the same thing.

 

[lightingbird]

you have a rather high opinion of yourself don't you?

You know why I don't enjoy getting shot constantly in free roam? because that is NOT what it was designed for, sure you can kill each other if you want but it's not what you have to do. If you really want a death match start one, don't spoil other peoples fun because you're a retard.

Have you actually tried to do the other aspects of the multiplayer? been on a hunt? now wouldn't you get slightly annoyed if whilst you're hunting some idiot thinks shooting you is going to be funny? why should I have to put up with it because it's the "manly" thing to do?

We are not barbarians, it's a computer game. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

What do you mean that's not what the game was designed for in RDR? What? You do understand what FREE roam means right? Did you watch any of the videos before the game came out or read any interviews? Rockstar flat out said a area where players can go into this sandbox world and do whatever they wanted. What do you mean that's not what it was meant to be.

Clearly you or anyone else who think this is trying to create made up rules and will only end up frustrating yourself expecting others to respect it. Free roam is meant for free action. You clearly have unrealistic expectations.

 

[Nerf Ninja]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

Exactly my point. You nailed it. They should have made a Coop Roam so people that can't handle the stress of pvp can do that instead. Well wait, they made private setups so that's the same thing.

So I have to go on free roam quickly find a bunch of people prepared to play the game maturely log off and start up a private game because we're the ones upsetting the dicks?

 

[maddawg IAJI]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

 

[gigastrike]

RDR? Like Red Dead Redemption or something? ...You should really remeber to clarify these things. Not everyone plays the same games that you do.

People who complain about getting attacked while doing non-violent activities are by no means wimps. They are simply trying to do a different activity, while other people are doing everything in their power to stop them. It's not that they're afraid of fighting, it's that other people are specifically trying to stop them from playing how they want.

Would you like it if you were playing on your X-box, and your mom comes by and pulls out the plug? You're trying to do things your way, but your mom decides that things should be done differently, and does everything in her power to stop you.

I'm a bit to old for my mom to be in my house. Also, I was calling people wimps only because were not able to handle being attacked in free roam and expecting it to be changed. Some sort of big brother action to make it stop. Rather than remembering this game is about the wild west and fight back. Not hard to get why I said it. Either way, I get people have had lives different growing up regions of the world and some are more sensitive and others more rugged in regards to life. So for that I apologize.

Either way as I keep saying, I welcome getting jumped. I enjoy the fight regardless of what they interrupt me doing.

Why wouldn't they complain? Any game that allows greifing has a bad design on principle. Saying that that kind of stuff just happens in free-roam games is the same as just giving up on making the game good. What's stopping them from making seperate servers for PvP and questing?

 

[Nerf Ninja]

you have a rather high opinion of yourself don't you?

You know why I don't enjoy getting shot constantly in free roam? because that is NOT what it was designed for, sure you can kill each other if you want but it's not what you have to do. If you really want a death match start one, don't spoil other peoples fun because you're a retard.

Have you actually tried to do the other aspects of the multiplayer? been on a hunt? now wouldn't you get slightly annoyed if whilst you're hunting some idiot thinks shooting you is going to be funny? why should I have to put up with it because it's the "manly" thing to do?

We are not barbarians, it's a computer game. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

What do you mean that's not what the game was designed for in RDR? What? You do understand what FREE roam means right? Did you watch any of the videos before the game came out or read any interviews? Rockstar flat out said a area where players can go into this sandbox world and do whatever they wanted. What do you mean that's not what it was meant to be.

Clearly you or anyone else who think this is trying to create made up rules and will only end up frustrating yourself expecting others to respect it. Free roam is meant for free action. You clearly have unrealistic expectations.

Is it truly unrealistic to want to play the game maturely and take part in one of the events actually offered by rockstar within the game? what's the point of even having a free for all mode when that is basically what free roam has become?

 

[Reg5879]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

 

[Nifty]

Also pvp is the setting for Free roam. You do realize that right?

If Free Roam was fully oriented to PVP, then killing PC's would give more XP and there wouldn't be any need for the rest of the PVP game modes.

 

[Nerf Ninja]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

So once again it comes down to us "wimps" having to move on again?

 

[Reg5879]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

So once again it comes down to us "wimps" having to move on again?

Yep, it only takes 20 seconds roughly to find another Free Roam Lobby.

 

[Nerf Ninja]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

So once again it comes down to us "wimps" having to move on again?

Yep, it only takes 20 seconds roughly to find another Free Roam Lobby.

Nice to see some people never grow up.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

Yes, and the game map tends to have a tendency to spawn you nearby where you were gunned down. Most of the time, these griefers look for your respawn and rush over to you to kill you again. Why should I leave because some asshole is being a douche?

And even then, moving into another lobby or not, you'll tend to find at least one player who likes to kill others. It only takes one spark to set off a powder keg and with up to 16 potential firestarters in one room, it's only a matter of time before that room itself becomes just like all the others. I miss the set up they had for GTA 4 where you could vote out players who you didn't want around. Better yet, use the Shadowrun method, where the group in a whole can decide wether to boot one side or the other and then do what they want without interferance.

If the group wants to kill one another, fine, boot the player who doesn't. If the group wants to quest, fine, boot the player who doesn't. Everyone goes home happy and able to do what they want.

 

[Reg5879]

If the people hate getting attacked, then why not just do Private Free Roam?

I only have one other person on my friends list that even has this game, why should I handicap my game experience because other people are douches?

Why should people handicap their experiences because people like you can't handle getting killed? The point of Free Roam is to do whatever you want.

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Hey, I actually ain't one of the people that goes around killing everyone, I just look at this from both sides and when I think Free Roam, I think do whatever you want, let people have their fun and if you keep getting killed, just move onto another lobby and hope for the best or just stay away from the player doing the killing, the world map is pretty big you know.

So once again it comes down to us "wimps" having to move on again?

Yep, it only takes 20 seconds roughly to find another Free Roam Lobby.

Nice to see some people never grow up.

What's that got to do with Red Dead Redemption?

 

[omega 616]

RDR? Like Red Dead Redemption or something? ...You should really remeber to clarify these things. Not everyone plays the same games that you do.

People who complain about getting attacked while doing non-violent activities are by no means wimps. They are simply trying to do a different activity, while other people are doing everything in their power to stop them. It's not that they're afraid of fighting, it's that other people are specifically trying to stop them from playing how they want.

Would you like it if you were playing on your X-box, and your mom comes by and pulls out the plug? You're trying to do things your way, but your mom decides that things should be done differently, and does everything in her power to stop you.

I'm a bit to old for my mom to be in my house. Also, I was calling people wimps only because were not able to handle being attacked in free roam and expecting it to be changed. Some sort of big brother action to make it stop. Rather than remembering this game is about the wild west and fight back. Not hard to get why I said it. Either way, I get people have had lives different growing up regions of the world and some are more sensitive and others more rugged in regards to life. So for that I apologize.

Either way as I keep saying, I welcome getting jumped. I enjoy the fight regardless of what they interrupt me doing.

Ok, imagine your at the park reading or watching the world go by and a group of lads are kicking a ball at you, your going to get pissed 'cos there stopping you from doing what you want.

You really get into your games, don't you? "it's about the wild west fight back".

Peoples lives don't effect how they are in a game, people with great lives could be dicks in a game or in real life and the opposite in the other and vice versa (that made more sense in my head).

 

[lightingbird]

The point of Free-roam is to take on the world of Red Dead Redemption as a group. So you are no longer the lone gunslinger. Numerous times, I've seen myself killed by an ass who wanted to kill eachother because he doesn't know what else to do. They spawn in with a gun and see other players. Instead of looking around and finding something fun to do that would leave everyone happy (And there are PLENTY of things to do) they immeaditily think "Hey, I have a gun and the game set me up with some other players, my objective must be to kill them!"

If they want to play a game where the objective is to kill the other player then they can pop in Call of Duty or Halo or TF2 or something! Just because the game gives you the option to "Do whatever you want" doesn't mean you should be a jerk and continously ruin the experience of other players.

Every heard the phrase "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"? I think that applies here pretty well.

Errr NO. That is not the point of free roam. That is your take on what free roam should be. It is not a group setting. It is not a solo setting. It is a part of the game that anyone can do anything. Stop trying to implement made up rules. Also, it applies to your wording of "jerk". I too don't shoot everyone I see but I don't freak out when it happens to me. As a matter of fact, in a free roam setting why would anyone seriously not expect to be fired on? I honestly don't get that. Someone said are you all wimps again. No, I don't think that but lets just say you all aren't the toughest bunch either.