Poll: Why shouldn't I convert to Islam?

[jasoncyrus]

I can give you 1 very good reason why you shouldn't covert.

You will be hated by most of the christian world especially most of the devout american christians and anyone who sticks with the pope (he thinks islam is the cause of evil after all)

So yeah its basically a big hate fest bein either muslim or christian.

Do yourself a favour, go bhuddist.

 

[MBFCPresident]

No. Reasons: No sex, no drugs, no rock 'n roll.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Because converting to a religion is false, you can't honestly just start believing something.

False. I didn't necessarily convert to Christianity, but I went from being pretty much agnostic to being a fairly devout person. I did it for my own reasons, and think my life is better for it. I know that converts exist, for many reasons, and I sort of think those who CHOOSE to join the church (or any other religion) instead of those who are born into it tend have, well, I won't say stronger, but a different relationship with their beliefs.

And to the OP, what prompted this decision? I suppose if that's what you want to do, alright, but make sure you're doing for reasons you can be sure you are comfortable with.

I'm assuming you didn't bother reading my other posts right?

 

[klarr]

I'm thinking about following Islam but my friends keep telling me not to. When I ask them to give me three reasons not to, they can't think of anything. So I am essentially looking for three reasons I should not become a Muslim.

Masha'Allah and good luck to you. Saying shahadah is a big deal. My advice for what it's worth, go see your local Imam and talk to him. Tell him you're thinking of reverting, but you're nervous because it's a big decision. He'll be able to provide you with/point you in the direction of literature that'll help you make your decision.

One word of caution. A large amount of literature out there is wahabist and may well annoy you (It sure as hell does me). If you use Qu'ran and the hadith as your guidance and develop your own understanding you won't go wrong.

At the end of the day:

There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way.

thank god finnaly somone comes in this disscusion with some information and some actual sence.
thank you zeeclone, thank you for actualy having some sence and helping this guy and not arguing.

 

[Thanatos34]

Gotta ask why you want to follow it first.
Can't say I agree with the religion to put it bluntly, anything in which women are regulated to 2nd tier citizens isn't my cup of tea.

Have you looked at any Western religion? We're all pretty much the same patriarchal bastards.

Some of them put on airs: "Oh, no. Of course we respect you. We need to study to be holy, you're doing that just by being pregnant, barefoot, in the kitchen." That always sort of bugged me.

Oh come on. Islam is far and away past this. They make their women wear veils, there was even a case in Saudi Arabia where they wouldn't let a group of girls out of a burning building because they weren't wearing veils.

They are allowed to beat their wives, as well. That's a bit different than mere belief that women are under men's authority.

 

[El Poncho]

do it if u believe in ther faith, but ur life style may change drasticly

 

[jasoncyrus]

Gotta ask why you want to follow it first.
Can't say I agree with the religion to put it bluntly, anything in which women are regulated to 2nd tier citizens isn't my cup of tea.

Have you looked at any Western religion? We're all pretty much the same patriarchal bastards.

Some of them put on airs: "Oh, no. Of course we respect you. We need to study to be holy, you're doing that just by being pregnant, barefoot, in the kitchen." That always sort of bugged me.

Oh come on. Islam is far and away past this. They make their women wear veils, there was even a case in Saudi Arabia where they wouldn't let a group of girls out of a burning building because they weren't wearing veils.

They are allowed to beat their wives, as well. That's a bit different than mere belief that women are under men's authority.

Indeed, Islam is a LONG way from being welcomed in an *enlightened* society (then again so is christianity).

 

[darrinwright]

What do you believe? That's the most important thing. Do I personally believe in Islam? No, but you should follow what you believe is true, because it's your choice alone.

 

[Elurindel]

1. God isn't real.

2. Islam oppresses women.

3. Islam preaches that homosexuals and Jews should be stoned to death.

Many many others, but you asked for 3.

4. Islam also preaches that you can lie to others about Islam as long as it converts them to Islam

 

[chefassassin2]

Do what you feel is right in your heart.

Seconded.

 

[Squiggers]

I'm pretty skeptical about this thread though. I mean, the title's a negative leading question. I suspect the OP is looking for a Islam hate fest, or something.

Or is possibly a journalist? And a very sneaky one at that.

3. Islam preaches that homosexuals and Jews should be stoned to death.

I thought, traditionally, Jewish people were considered by Islam to be "people of the book" and were to be, if not treated in a friendly manner, respected.

Traditionally yes.

However, preachings in modern times have differed somewhat.

Indeed. The more recent translations have become...far more hatefilled, to put in nicely.

Personally, I don't particularly like the religion for its attitude towards women, and quite a few worshippers in the UK screaming for Shariah - amusingly, the older muslims don't want it at all, as they know what life under Shariah is like: absolute hell. You only need to look at life under the Taliban in Afghanistan to see what I mean.

However, I also know that there are a lot of Muslims who aren't complete idiots, and actually understand we're now living in the 21st Century. It's up to you really.

 

[Madshaw]

there are plenty of great reasons here: http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Koran

 

[sokka14]

no, because..... it's religion, therefore illogical.

however, if you do feel like joining it, just try not to take the dodgy messages too literally. that way i fully encourage you to join whatever cult you feel like.

 

[Squiggers]

there are plenty of great reasons here: http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Koran

Arrse?!

Another ARRSE user, I see....?

 

[Jindrak]

"Whatever gets you through the night."
-John Lennon

 

[sokka14]

1. God isn't real.

2. Islam oppresses women.

3. Islam preaches that homosexuals and Jews should be stoned to death.

Many many others, but you asked for 3.

4. Islam also preaches that you can lie to others about Islam as long as it converts them to Islam

lol at 4.
wow, that's both terrifying and hilarious.

 

[Symp4thy]

Judging by the fact that the OP author has yet to give reasons why he wants to convert to Islam, I'd say he's either trolling or this:

Lets call this topic what it really is:
"Poll: why shouldnt I be an attention whore?"

people saying "oh you shouldnt do this cause of the women and gays"
HE HAS CHE IN HIS AVATAR

its not damn different, che also executed gays

funny enough, che also murdered dissenters, so that goes with islam too.

now, ive got no problem with muslims, decent ones, at least, after all, christians, jews, and muslims, all share the same book, but all have different endings, but radicals, those are the problems, with the OP's name and avatar, its plain to see he just wants to kill himself for virgins

gtfo, you ignorant fascist wannabe, you dont know who che is, you dont know who lenin is, you dont know what islam is, you dont know anything, youve proved it by even posting this.

i have no problem what you believe, but stop trying to use politics and religion as a friggin fashion.

Edit: Also I want to thank tsb247 for making one of the most intelligent and inoffensive posts about religion I've seen yet. (Spoiler'd to save space)

Spoiler

I'm seeing a fair deal of religion bashing and the whole, "God is a lie," thing going on here, so I will simply say this and leave it at that.

To say that you are certain that God does not exist is to imply that you hold some sort of answer that everyone else seems to be missing; to say that you know where the universe itself came from and to imply that our science is 100% accurate. They will say there is no evidence to prove God exists because they are looking for a utopian world where all of their problems are cured by a devine being. What would be the point of living? Many athiests I know only dumped religion when they felt religion failed them. There was no, "Hey, I think I will be rational today," moment about it. They screwed up, blamed it on God, and dumped everything they once believed and started anew.

Having said that, the zealots out there give religion a bad name. To assume that a single book holds all the answers and can be interpreted literally is foolish. Every single religious text out there has been translated from language to language thousands of times, and it is inevitable that many meanings have been lost through the ages. Religions are for those who want to find a deeper meaning for their lives. While it is true that mankind has exploited all religions throughout the ages for personal gain, that is simply not what religion is for.

It is healthy and natural to question ones' religion. I have questioned mine. It's all part of understanding and learning.

I suppose I posted this to make this point as well. I hear so many athiests crying, "Respect my right to disbelieve! You offend me!" when they, in turn, cannot respect another's right to believe because they have to tell the world, "God does not exist!"

ThrobbingEgo seems to have the rational thing down pat - Not stomping beliefs, but rather able to carry on an intelligent conversation and brings up some good points.

 

[MajorDooshbag]

No because if you convert to Islam you can't eat delicious bacon anymore!


Seriously though, you should only convert to a religion if you truly believe in a religion, unless it?s Taoism which no one should convert to because it?s stupid bullshit religion that needs to die.

I can't express how false and repulsive Islam is. If you're lost and bored take up Zen Buddhism, it never killed anyone.

If you don't count Japan in WWII, where much of the population followed Zen teachings, then you would be correct.

 

[McMo0^]

All religions end up with crazy extremist movements, but thats because most religious texts and teachings are down to interpretation.

What you need to ask yourself is why have you lost faith in your current religion, and then decided that another one is right. Screw what anyone else says, faith is about... well faith.

 

[Naeo]

A few things here. First, I don't really give a flying choice-expletive whether or not you convert. Not sure why anyone online would.

Second, you seem to be converting just for the sake of conversion.

Third, why would you want to convert? Not meant as a rhetorical question with "there's no reason to" as the answer, but as a legitimate question: what reasons do you have that argue for your conversion? if you have none and there are none against it, then you shouldn't really be talking about conversion at all- it's the argument to ignorance (see: Russell's Teapot, the Invisible Pink Unicorn). Just because there's no reason for you not to is not a reason to; just because there's no reason for you to does not mean there is a reason for you not to.

Like has been said though, if you honestly believe Islam's doctrines and beliefs, convert. That there is the one unarguable reason in this matter- if you're nominally, say, a Christian right now but you find yourself believing the tenants of Islam, then convert. Become a Muslim, there's nothing wrong with doing that.

But if you don't believe what Islam teaches, then don't convert. I'm closest in belief to an agnostic, and I honestly hold agnostic-ish beliefs (on most topics). So, I won't convert to Christianity or Confucianism or Islam or Baha'i since I don't believe what those faiths teach.