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Cilliandrew

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Wait a minute.. All this "I'm sticking with Vista" support is mind-boggling.. Are you telling me there are people out there that actually thought VISTA was good?

Vista was a colossal disaster, and the reason why Windows 7 was so close on it's boot-heels!

I also can't believe that there are institutions of education that have already switched over to Windows 7. They must be getting quite a deal from Microsoft. It seems irresponsible to me for them to make the switch to such an untried operating system THIS early.
 

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Belladonnah said:
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It's alright, nothin to go crazy over.

Just like Google Chrome, it's meh, not that great really.
Chrome is hilariously bad. Why did google need a new PROCESS for each tab? Not even a new thread, a new glomping process. Honestly?
Not only they crash individually, if a tab does crash, but it's also great for pages that due to some bug or bad engineering create a memory leak on your browser. You individually shut that page and its fixed. If that happens on firefox it just keeps accumulating memory usage, to the point I've had mine take close to 1GB of memory after 24~36 hours opened. Not that I don't love firefox, it just has too many cool plugins to give up.
Well, Firefox was written with the linux memory management in mind as opposed to the windows one. I find that with chrome the cost of allocating a new address space for each tab (and thus process) is simply a cost not worth it in case a tab crashes.
 

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I got it for free because I am a student but I have not installed it yet..
Best of luck with your install. Hope you like it. Be sure to backup your data first.
 

cathou

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Cilliandrew said:
Wait a minute.. All this "I'm sticking with Vista" support is mind-boggling.. Are you telling me there are people out there that actually thought VISTA was good?

Vista was a colossal disaster, and the reason why Windows 7 was so close on it's boot-heels!

I also can't believe that there are institutions of education that have already switched over to Windows 7. They must be getting quite a deal from Microsoft. It seems irresponsible to me for them to make the switch to such an untried operating system THIS early.

vista post SP1 was a good and stable os. It was a huge beast that suck up lots of ressources, i give you that, but since my pc have a lot of ressource, it worked well.
 

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I'll stick with my XP.

I shall only move on till XP becomes obselete !
It's been obselete since windows '98 was released. Yes, '98 was the better system dammit, XP cannot do anything 98 can't do better..

Moving on from "it's pointless and therefore redundant" to it has no 64 bit support, and performs poorly with multi-core processors. XP has been completely redundant since vista RC2 was released, the only people stick with it is because it's familiar.

OT: Not had a chance to check out 7 yet, my vista version has been modded to my liking and I can't be bothered toying with a new OS (at least not until after exams). I'm yet to hear a bad thing about it, though.
Saying that '98 is better than XP is like saying that a punch in the face is better than a gigantic ice cream cone. o_O

'98 was good for its time, but XP was MUCH more stable. 98 (and Vista too... go figure) would just crash on me whenever it felt like it, but the only times I ever experienced serious problems while my computer was running XP were because of virii.

On topic, my dad put Windows 7 on his computer. He likes it so far.
The only computer I ever had that run windows 98 was my peice of shit IBM R30, and with the exception of hardware faults (which were frequent) it never crashed and ran flawlessly (I don't think there was a single part that didn't need replacing under warrranty at some point, it spent more time at IBM than in my possesion).

I have currently have 4 computers running XP (one is a laptop), and of those none of them are as stable as my old broken laptop running 98. Saying '98 is better than XP is far more true than claiming XP is better than vista. '98 is dated and doesn't support modern hardware, so it isn't stable, but compared to XP running the hardware of it's time, it's far more stable.
 

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Im still using the RC at the moment. I have that till next summer. Ill be getting the ultimate version soon though. Need to upgrade for better networking and "ghost" folders
 

DM master

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Well as i got it for free about 3 months ago im very happy with it :)
MSDN Subscriptions are good..
 

Cilliandrew

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cathou said:
Cilliandrew said:
Wait a minute.. All this "I'm sticking with Vista" support is mind-boggling.. Are you telling me there are people out there that actually thought VISTA was good?

Vista was a colossal disaster, and the reason why Windows 7 was so close on it's boot-heels!

I also can't believe that there are institutions of education that have already switched over to Windows 7. They must be getting quite a deal from Microsoft. It seems irresponsible to me for them to make the switch to such an untried operating system THIS early.

vista post SP1 was a good and stable os. It was a huge beast that suck up lots of ressources, i give you that, but since my pc have a lot of ressource, it worked well.
I have met the odd person who said this. If you had the computer to actually RUN it, it was okay. Problem was most people didn't have that computer, and Microsoft was VERY sneaky with how they labelled machines.

I work in a fairly IT-centric job. I have a buddy who worked for a prominent virus protection company.

Vista was generally regarded as a POS and was openly avoided like the plague.

Why do you think Dell had to bring back the option to have XP on the computers you purchased from them?
 

cathou

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Cilliandrew said:
cathou said:
Cilliandrew said:
Wait a minute.. All this "I'm sticking with Vista" support is mind-boggling.. Are you telling me there are people out there that actually thought VISTA was good?

Vista was a colossal disaster, and the reason why Windows 7 was so close on it's boot-heels!

I also can't believe that there are institutions of education that have already switched over to Windows 7. They must be getting quite a deal from Microsoft. It seems irresponsible to me for them to make the switch to such an untried operating system THIS early.

vista post SP1 was a good and stable os. It was a huge beast that suck up lots of ressources, i give you that, but since my pc have a lot of ressource, it worked well.
I have met the odd person who said this. If you had the computer to actually RUN it, it was okay. Problem was most people didn't have that computer, and Microsoft was VERY sneaky with how they labelled machines.

I work in a fairly IT-centric job. I have a buddy who worked for a prominent virus protection company.

Vista was generally regarded as a POS and was openly avoided like the plague.

Why do you think Dell had to bring back the option to have XP on the computers you purchased from them?
i work for a company that sell business computers. half of what we sell is sold with vista and stay on vista. Vista work much better with windows server 2008, and that's why many companies have switch to vista.

beside any decent computer sold in the last 2 years should be good enough to run vista. put 2 go of ram (ram is very very cheap), have at leat a core2duo and it will run...
 

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cathou said:
i work for a company that sell business computers. half of what we sell is sold with vista and stay on vista. Vista work much better with windows server 2008, and that's why many companies have switch to vista.

beside any decent computer sold in the last 2 years should be good enough to run vista. put 2 go of ram (ram is very very cheap), have at leat a core2duo and it will run...
Business computers are one thing. If you have the cash to be able to insure that you are running everything up to date (like Windows Server 2008) and with the resources required, sure. Home computers are another beast entirely.

We're working our way through a recession here, right now. Alot of folks haven't purchased a new computer in quite a while. And alot of institutions cannot afford or have policies against updating to the latest and greatest as quickly as possible because of a history of bugs and other conflicts (both hardware and software).

The school i work for never were able to commit to Vista because their networking setup and Vista NEVER got along, and they did not have the money required to be able to update the rest of their system to appease Vista.

Vista was and still is flawed.
 

The Bandit

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Edzor said:
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Edzor said:
Why isn't there an option like "i'm sticking to Vista"?

There was nothing wrong with Vista, and i spent 4000 $ on my PC, i really don't know why people are complaining about Vista...

Sure, it doesn't work on crap computers, but that doesn't mean that the Operating System sucked...

People just keep saying it sucks because their PC knowledge sucks, and because their PC's are cheap...
Obviously you don't know much about computers if you spent $4000. You probably got ripped off by a salesman or bought Alienware. I had a top of the range system I spent around £1000 on and built myself when Vista came out. Vista crashed and fucked up my computer three times.
Obviously you are talking out of your ass, console gamer :)

My PC is a custom made, mineral oil cooled BEAST...
It uses sound waves to cool the oil, it circulates through copper pipes with the aid of a small pump.

I made it myself...

I have probably been using computers and gaming before you were born, so that whole "you don't know" thing is BS...

Also, Vista rules, and my graphics cards alone cost more than your "top of the range, 1000 pound" PC...

"top of the range" and "1000 pound" don't belong in the same sentence... (just like the words "console" and "gamer")

Hell, if i had more money, i'd spend even more on my gaming rig...

Yes, Vista sucked balls when it was new, but then again every new program does, they all need a patch or 2 to work properly...
Oh, dear Lord. Shut the hell up. Please. This is ridiculous.
 

Uncompetative

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Based on votes cast, only three-quarters are happy with it and somewhere between 17 and 27% are considering downgrading!
 

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corroded said:
Edzor said:
RAKtheUndead said:
Edzor said:
My PC is a custom made, mineral oil cooled BEAST...
It uses sound waves to cool the oil, it circulates through copper pipes with the aid of a small pump.

I made it myself...

I have probably been using computers and gaming before you were born, so that whole "you don't know" thing is BS...

Also, Vista rules, and my graphics cards alone cost more than your "top of the range, 1000 pound" PC...

"top of the range" and "1000 pound" don't belong in the same sentence... (just like the words "console" and "gamer")
So, how many cores has your computer got?
Core cound does not matter, what matters is the frequency they run at, and the cache...

You can have 50 cores, if they run at low clock speeds, they will still be unstable...

Besides, applications are horribly optimised for multicores...

Take games like TF 2 for example, they have a hard time running properly on I7 processors...

If you judge your performance on your core count, i feel really sorry for ya :)
That's.... not strictly true. Performance is annoyingly based on core count AND frequency. But not just those. Would you rather a P4D 3.4ghz, 2 cores @ 3.4ghz or a C2D E8400.. 2 cores @ 3ghz. There is of course, not even a contest, the C2D spanks it. My old 1.8ghz E4300 spanked the 3.4ghz P4D, by some margin. Lots of factors these days, and it's become confusing. Novices don't really stand a chance. I tried to explain to my mate with a P4D why sticking in a GTX285 wasn't really going to improve things massively, as his CPU is becoming a big bottleneck.

metalhead467 said:
I've never had a problem with Vista. In the year or so I've used it I've had it crash maybe once.
The problems with Vista were never stability related. The user experience is the problem. I go back and touch a Vista computer and try to use it properly within 5 minutes i'm about ready to destroy things, specially when UAC starts harking up.
I've heard that a second, small, 10,000 RPM boot drive really helps system responsiveness.

Old article: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000800.html
 

Ziadaine_v1legacy

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Friend has had it for 2 weeks now (Obviously not legit), functions the same and (despite running XP) I think I'd stick to Vista 32bit.
 

kjrubberducky

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Windows 7 can slide-show your desktop background. Other than that, and being a little lighter on the processor, it feels about the same as Vista