Poll: Woman cuts man's penis with boxcutter - gets no jail time

[renegade7]

God dammit, that is disgusting.

If a man did this he'd be called a creep and a pervert and would be in jail for years (and rightly so). But of course because it's a woman "she was just a little emotional and concerned for her baby because motherhood and feelings and hormones" or some shit. I'm just going to stop this train here because I don't really think this is fully a gender thing and I don't want this to turn into a feminism vs MRAs thread. But I won't deny that I think is incredibly sexist on the part of the justice system.

"Suspicion" that someone is a sex offender is not enough. Even if it was factually true that he had molested her toddler, she should have called the police. I don't really see this quite as much of a gender thing but rather I think it's the knee-jerk way people flip out when you say "suspicion" and "child molestation", abandon all reason, and suddenly think literally any and all acts of violence against a person become okay. But the kid DIDN'T molest her infant, and she had no good reason to think that, and even if he did, then this is vigilante justice.

No, this isn't a mother looking out for her child. She got high, and since marijuana doesn't to my knowledge cause violent paranoia I suspect it was on something quite a bit harder, she ganged up on her daughter's boyfriend with 3 accomplices, locked him in a trailer, tortured him for 3 hours, and mutilated his genitals, because of a completely baseless suspicion that the kid was abusing her toddler.

The victim didn't seek jail time so long as Vela acknowledge her crime.

Well, I guess in that case that's his decision. I personally, I would have demanded she be locked up, or at least lose custody of her children, being a violent drug addict. Or at least have taken it to civil court and sued for pain and suffering.

 

[klaynexas3]

I don't know why, but I'm not surprised about it being from Indiana. I don't know, I just started talking to someone from there, and it sounds like they're using lead pipes for their plumbing or some shit, because everyone there sounds insane, and this doesn't help.

More on topic, this is just...ugh. I mean, it's just fucked up. The people in the chat sticking up for her is disgusting. This wasn't the act of vigilantism, this was someone getting fucked up on drugs and torturing someone. There is no justice here, and even the woman is now saying she doesn't know why she thought the guy was molesting her son. I mean fuck. The average populace is so fucking stupid that they'll ignore all facts and applaud a god damn druggy that tortured someone. New fucking low people, new fucking low.

 

[Bat Vader]

This story kinda reminds me of what Gary Plauche did. Video is a bit NSFW.

Spoiler

 

[BarkBarker]

.... I am suspicious of everyone around me because I'm paranoid, which is why everyone around me is dead, PRAISE ME.

 

[jklinders]

Most of the commenters approving of the assault were the worst kind of mouth breathing idiots. I would hardly think that they can be accepted as any kind of standard for how this crap was viewed.

The sentence was light in my opinion, but I am always reluctant to comment too stringently on a matter that happened in a court room without having all of the facts of the case in front me. There are often valid case by case reasons that publications either do not know or conveniently leave out. neither the New York Daily News nor Huffpo are exactly known for setting a gold standard in their reporting so i am going with the idea that there was some shit going on not mentioned.

also, from the New York Daily News article "The victim didn't seek jail time so long as Vela acknowledged her crime." It's entirely possible that the judge used his discretion to take the victim's wishes into account during sentencing. It's rare but not unheard of for a judge to do that.

 

[laggyteabag]

Woah there crazy lady. I just don't see how she got away scot-free. She physically assaulted and mutilated a man solely on the suspicion (whilst under the influence of mind altering drugs) that a man had molested her son? Fucking what? That woman is just crazy, and should be behind bars, let alone allowed to be around a child. Vigilantism is wrong for this very reason; you cannot just go out and dole out "justice" as you see fit just because it seemed like a cool idea at the time.

 

[VoidWanderer]

She should've gotten time as she was acting on suspicion only. It's like the gather who walked in on his son getting abused by a family friend. The father beat the 'friend' unconscious and only spared their life because the kid intervened. The father was not charged for the attack.

 

[Michel Henzel]

I could be sympathetic if she caught the guy red handed, but considering there was only a suspicion then she was wrong, she committed a horrible crime and she must do time for it.

 

[MeatMachine]

Everyone is equal before the law, huh.

 

[nightmare_gorilla]

ok so stay with me on this but the cutting of the wang is less bothersome than the circumstances of it. it's one thing to lash out in anger, but to lock someone in a trailer and systematically torture them for a perceived wrongdoing? that's mental and even if there's no jail time someone who behaves that way needs psychiatric care.

In all honesty if there was absolute bullet proof evidence he commuted this act then having his wang mutilated aint exactly a tragedy. the fact that she did it with just suspicions and no proof is messed up and she absolutely deserves jail time.

I'm in no way trying to sound like an MRA here but obviously this country feels differently about damage to the D than the V. women around the world are fighting "genital mutilation" as a human rights crime when women get their naughty parts snipped but circumcision is one of the most common procedures. you want to see gender inequality on full display ask a woman what they think about circumcision. "ugh no they're so disgusting i wouldn't sleep with an uncut guy." is one of the tamer answers i've heard. google "kicked in the balls" vs "kicked in the ****" as a general rule of thumb damage done to a penis is either seen as comedy or unimportant. the only time i have ever seen a woman booted in the crotch on tv was an old episode of king of the hill.

But all BS aside what is so damn hard about treating people the same regardless of race, gander, sexual orientation or whatever, you did the crime, you do the time. period.

 

[Thaluikhain]

women around the world are fighting "genital mutilation" as a human rights crime when women get their naughty parts snipped but circumcision is one of the most common procedures. you want to see gender inequality on full display ask a woman what they think about circumcision. "ugh no they're so disgusting i wouldn't sleep with an uncut guy." is one of the tamer answers i've heard

Firstly, the forms of FGM people tend to be concerned about are much worse than male circumscion. Labiaplasty is fairly common, for example.

Secondly, what? Women in the US are freaked out by uncircumcised guys?

 

[silverleaf81]

Huh, most people when smoking Weed listen to music and eat Doritos, not cut someone's d*ck. I'm assuming by "other drugs" they meant Meth or something as equally nasty.

Oh I should also say OW.

 

[Maze1125]

women around the world are fighting "genital mutilation" as a human rights crime when women get their naughty parts snipped but circumcision is one of the most common procedures. you want to see gender inequality on full display ask a woman what they think about circumcision. "ugh no they're so disgusting i wouldn't sleep with an uncut guy." is one of the tamer answers i've heard

Firstly, the forms of FGM people tend to be concerned about are much worse than male circumscion. Labiaplasty is fairly common, for example.

Labiaplasty is voluntary surgery as an adult. Performing it on a child is just as illegal as other forms of FGM.
Which is exactly how it should be with MGM. Yet with males it's suddenly okay to do it to unconsenting children.

 

[kasperbbs]

That woman and her accomplices should be in jail for kidnapping, mutilation, drug use and god knows what else. At least according to the source that guy did nothing, there was no proof that he did anything, his crimes where only in that womans head and only after she got high.

 

[Lieju]

women around the world are fighting "genital mutilation" as a human rights crime when women get their naughty parts snipped but circumcision is one of the most common procedures. you want to see gender inequality on full display ask a woman what they think about circumcision. "ugh no they're so disgusting i wouldn't sleep with an uncut guy." is one of the tamer answers i've heard.

Yeah, that's an US thing. Since you're talking about 'women around the world' you should be aware that in the large parts of the world (like pretty much all of Europe) uncircumcised is the norm and here in Finland for example doing it for children (no matter their sex) for non-medical reasons is illegal.

 

[Dizchu]

Once tabloid-style "women's interest" talk shows start the whole "you go girl!" routine again, I will be officially done with this planet.

I'm not sure if the sentencing was sexist (though women tend to get lighter sentences), it was probably just the result of the really scummy prison system in the USA. You can get arrested or shot for having weed (or worse, having the audacity to be black!) so it's not like their justice system is reasonable.