Poll: Worst things about MW2

[Carlston]

So use it... or stop complaining. There is no "player moral high ground" That's bullshit. Like in real warfare, there are no rules, you kill the guy before he kills you. Backstab, knee the groin gouge a eye. They want to make you into thin paste and you want to "pretend" your a better person no using a weapon available to you? Your fault...

Game. Set. Match.

When I'm playing against a guy doing the Lightweight/Marathon/Commando setup, I throw it right back at him, and I'm pretty fucking good at it.

When I am getting killed by somebody camping a really clever spot I sneak all the way around behind him and knife his ass.

When I'm holding down a building and waves of enemies keep coming to die by shotgun blast to the face why on Earth would I move? I'm not being cheap, you guys are being stupid. Somebody pulls that shit with me and I'll whip out Danger Close and rain hell into that building. It's called strategy.

I play with a crew, usually a full team, and you would not believe the scorn we get. Not uncommon at all for us to go 7500-1000, and we aren't all-stars or anything. it's a group effort of communication, killstreak combinations, and holding down an area. Camping you say? Not when we own half the map.

Nothing I like more than a close match of people who didn't think the game was called "Call of Duty: Modern Bitching" I like getting schooled by some tricksy bastard, keeps me on my toes.

Bingo. It really is pathetic how people just can handle rules and try to make up their own.
I ALWAYS found the zerg charge tactics a of FPS moronic, the camping whines...

It's like playing chess and the other demands your queen can only move like a pawn because he can't handle it, or the free parking make up rules for monopoly. If you wanna play by those rules and have friends abide by them fine...

Tell me to have to adopt to your LOW standards because you can handle a little grenade launcher? Hell that's the first thing i'm grabbing cause you just told me your weakness...

If your gonna win, do it right...

If you demand people play to support your weakness...don't even try.

 

[Carlston]

I picked other and that other is regenerating health. That's the worst thing to happen to video games ever.

Not sure, it has places in games where regeneration can be explained, Nanoites, magic, your a vampire....

Cause the alternative is walking over a pretty first aid kit and instantly being untouched.

 

[Yureina]

I would like a "All of the Online Multiplayer" option on this poll.

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

I would like a "All of the Online Multiplayer" option on this poll.

Not enough room

 

[Bat Vader]

The thing I dislike about Modern Warfare 2 are the people who yell into their headsets and insult others. That is the main reason why I don't play the online multiplayer in most game unless in a party with friends. When I do play and I am not in a party I make sure to mute everyone in the lobby before the match starts.

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

If you're complainnig about campers then you're a newb, anyone whose played the game enough to be at level 5 should know where the camping spots are and be able to take them out.
Modded controllers only matter if you in a western style show down; any other time it comes down to the size of your gun, its firing rate, and how good your aim is.
"Kniffers"? are people saying this is a problem? Well its not.
And "people yelling into their mic" yes so fucking annoying, not the worst though. I hate it when Im stuck on a team with loud racist assholes. Also all those little kids, but i figured out how to shut them up: just say to them, " Hey does your mother know you're talking like that"

In order,

Sorry, most of us don't stand much of a chance against a guy who is somehow only showing the very tip of his head behind a non-penetrable surface, and yet can somehow see us perfectly and kill us with a heavy machine gun. Or a guy who is waiting around a corner with a grenade launcher or spas 12.

Modded controllers in any other game are fine, since you still have at least somewhat of a chance due to latency. In MW2, you pretty much instantly die before you have time to react. And it didn't even look like he was firing until you watch the killcam where he apparently fired about 9 rounds at you. Weird, thought I would have noticed that.

Yes, knifers are a huge problem. A good majority of my deaths have been from the knife, in fact. Mainly because they can teleport about 5-10 feet to you and kill you instantly. They're also invincible while teleporting.

I'm pretty sure if I said that to a kid on XBL, he would respond with about 50 "your mom" jokes. But I suppose you could just mute them as well.

 

[skennedy929]

have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not

I retract my previous statement, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Portal, Dead Space, BioShock, Half Life 2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Left 4 Dead....you know what? I'm not even going to get into it. I've been gaming for a loong time, I'm 27, and the last decade has been filled with the most original games I've ever seen. Maybe you hate First Person perspective in general, where as I see it as an excellent way to experience a game world.

because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

Yep, yet another really stupid comment by you grabbed, I'm assuming, directly out of your ass. Are you inferring that Bethesda didn't have to work hard in creating Fallout 3? I guess STALKER was made for profit too, by a company in the Ukraine nobody has ever heard of.

You do know you can not like shooters but still respect them, right? I don't play JRPGs, but I wouldn't start running my mouth about them because then I'd be as out of my element as you are right now.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

Everyone like me is adults that have owned countless systems and games and don't get in useless bickering wars about which games are better than others. Play what you like. I don't think there has ever been a greater amount of differing game types then there are now.

the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

I'd say the Nintendo Fanboys are the easiest to please, I mean, how hard is it to come up with a new Zelda nowadays? Hyrule, Check. Link, Check. Ganon, Check.

Does that mean I hate Zelda? No, I hate motion controls but that's another story. Point here is that you are a bitter little husk of a person who isn't apparently content on playing the games you want, so you like to take opportunities to relentlessly abuse people who like genres you don't. Why you feel compelled to do this, I don't know.

I've played text-based adventures, side scrollers, NES RPGs, puzzle games, hack-n-slashers, driving sims, flying sims, Sim sims, western RPGs, JRPGs, action adventure, etc etc etc.

The list of games I have played is damn near enourmous, and yes, I prefer to buy First Person based games because I like them. Why on Earth do you get so heated about that?

 

[skennedy929]

Sorry, most of us don't stand much of a chance against a guy who is somehow only showing the very tip of his head behind a non-penetrable surface, and yet can somehow see us perfectly and kill us with a heavy machine gun.

If you are referring to what i think you are then people taking advantage of geometry that allows them to shoot out but not get shot is considered cheating.

Or a guy who is waiting around a corner with a grenade launcher or spas 12.

Where else would one wait with a shotgun? Ever heard of flashbangs? If a guy is waiting with a spas and you know it here's what to do. Run in and then immediately out, listen for his shot, after that he will need to load the next round, stab his face. There ya go.

Now the M1014, the only way I know to deal with that shotty is die.

 

[pha kin su pah]

needs more PAINKILLER GAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Mikeyfell]

have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not

I retract my previous statement, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Portal, Dead Space, BioShock, Half Life 2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Left 4 Dead....you know what? I'm not even going to get into it. I've been gaming for a loong time, I'm 27, and the last decade has been filled with the most original games I've ever seen. Maybe you hate First Person perspective in general, where as I see it as an excellent way to experience a game world.

because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

Yep, yet another really stupid comment by you grabbed, I'm assuming, directly out of your ass. Are you inferring that Bethesda didn't have to work hard in creating Fallout 3? I guess STALKER was made for profit too, by a company in the Ukraine nobody has ever heard of.

You do know you can not like shooters but still respect them, right? I don't play JRPGs, but I wouldn't start running my mouth about them because then I'd be as out of my element as you are right now.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

Everyone like me is adults that have owned countless systems and games and don't get in useless bickering wars about which games are better than others. Play what you like. I don't think there has ever been a greater amount of differing game types then there are now.

the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

I'd say the Nintendo Fanboys are the easiest to please, I mean, how hard is it to come up with a new Zelda nowadays? Hyrule, Check. Link, Check. Ganon, Check.

Does that mean I hate Zelda? No, I hate motion controls but that's another story. Point here is that you are a bitter little husk of a person who isn't apparently content on playing the games you want, so you like to take opportunities to relentlessly abuse people who like genres you don't. Why you feel compelled to do this, I don't know.

I've played text-based adventures, side scrollers, NES RPGs, puzzle games, hack-n-slashers, driving sims, flying sims, Sim sims, western RPGs, JRPGs, action adventure, etc etc etc.

The list of games I have played is damn near enourmous, and yes, I prefer to buy First Person based games because I like them. Why on Earth do you get so heated about that?

portal is an FPS, Dead Space is not original, Bioshock is Systemshock, Halflife 1 predates Halo
as does Fall out 1, and Elder Scrolls 1. at least try not to sound like a fucking retard. 3 of those games have fucking NUMBERS on the end of them you FUCKING DUMBASS. you can't say a sequel is an original game, not even retarded ass you

(also Dead Rising and Mirror's Edge are two games that would have made me shut up here. I speak in generalizations when I'm mostly right, so there)

first person shooting limits the game experience and all the fights quickly deteriorate into a pattern of cover, shooting, cover, run from grenade, cover, shooting, cover shooting
unless you play on easy and runaround killing everyone with an SMG or whatever. the least they could do is add something to break up the game flow. like the boss fights in Pain killer.
AND NOT AN ENEMY HELICOPTER THAT YOU TAKE DOWN WITH A ROCKET. or how about a story line...one that's more than "You are good. They are bad. Kill them" that's what Half Life and Bioshock did so well.

everything is made for profit. Fallout 3 is Oblivion with a different map, and Fallout New Vegas is Fallout 3 on a new map. there's very little work done compared to making oblivion
also those games are RPG's you're getting off topic I'm talking about FPS's

I don't dislike all shooters, Bioshock, Half Life, Deus Ex, you know the non-gray-brown-mess shooters. those are good. I even liked MW2's single player. even though it was 6 hours of hiding behind cover and dying.

Did you skip the last console generation...ever heard of the PS2?
it had so many unique games on it

Let me guess, your new games are a lot better than your old ones because the graphics are better right?
can an adult really get entertainment from shooting the same Russian terrorist in the head 1 million times? or is shooting Russians fun for some other reason?

the Nintendo fans are easy to please but the FPS douche-bags are stupid. draw a 2 on the call of duty box and sell it back to them. and they still buy call of duty 3
replace the background and all FPS's play alike. you can't say that for platformers or adventure games so people stop making platformers and adventure games (unless they make them Gears of GTA 4)

I prefer to buy First Person based games because I like them.

then play the ones you like instead of buying the same thing you will like just as much as the same game with a lower number on the end. games don't get worse because they're not new. or have you not figured that out yet. the reason that samey sequels keep coming out is that they keep selling.

and you're getting just as heated over my hatred of FPS as I am over your love of FPS

 

[skennedy929]

I picked other and that other is regenerating health. That's the worst thing to happen to video games ever.

Not sure, it has places in games where regeneration can be explained, Nanoites, magic, your a vampire....

Cause the alternative is walking over a pretty first aid kit and instantly being untouched.

The days of playing online FPSes and having the enemy camp the spot where the health respawns is a million times worse than recharging health.

Remember Goldeneye 64? If you could get a few quick kills and you knew where the Body Armor spawned you were untouchable. Horribly unbalanced.

Also, what's up with the guy on probation quoting my entire post without adding anything?

 

[MrTub]

No dedicated servers......

 

[OtakuNinja]

my answer is...

these threads

theirs probs 100+ of these on the escapist i think i may actually just give up on coming here

 

[Iwata]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

Wow...

 

[mxfox408]

You left out wall hackers...

 

[Mikeyfell]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

Do you expect every last game that comes out to be totally unique and different?

And are you kidding me? Nintendo fans are the easiest to please out of all you mentioned.
Jesus, do you know anything about the industry?

yes I'm stupid Nintendo fans are easy to please can we move on....


and of course not every game will be unique and original but the those copy paste games shouldn't sell. and the Nintendo fans and the FPS fans don't care. and no new game company would try to make anything that wasn't an FPS because FPS fans are the largest easy to please (without infringing on Nintendo's copyrights) market out there. some company should license the first person perspective so that other developers can make original games
(and I know how stupid that sounds, you can't license a perspective. so if you intend to keep arguing with me do it about some other stupid thing I said)

 

[Amphoteric]

People can do what they want. Its a free country. If you get annoyed at them then they have won.

 

[TheMan2203]

To me quick scoping is perhaps the single most irritating in MW2

 

[Mikeyfell]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

Wow...

Jesus Christ. only Nintendo can make new Nintendo games. there's not a problem with third party developers lining up to muscle in on Nintendo's loyal fan base
but anyone who wants money can make some crappy FPS with online multyplayer and make millions of dollars off people that don't realize that they own 10 games that already do that.

 

[skennedy929]

portal is an FPS, Dead Space is not original, Bioshock is Systemshock, Halflife 1 predates Halo
as does Fall out 1, and Elder Scrolls 1. at least try not to sound like a fucking retard. 3 of those games have fucking NUMBERS on the end of them you FUCKING DUMBASS. you can't say a sequel is an original game, not even retarded ass you

Portal is one of the coolest games to come out, ever, and is not a FPS because you do not shoot at anything.

Dead Space is a third person action horror game that has you dismember aliens. Care to show actual examples that make it not original?

As for the rest of that foaming-at-the-mouth diatribe I'll let it speak for itself. The fact you can't type a paragraph that doesn't make my eyes bleed trying to read it does not bode well for you calling me the retard. How old are you? If your posts are the nly thing I have to go by I'm guessing 14.

(also Dead Rising and Mirror's Edge are two games that would have made me shut up here. I speak in generalizations when I'm mostly right, so there)

Mirrors Edge is boring, and is a First Person Platformer, a genre that is inherently flawed. Dead Rising is GTA-style graphics and you run around bashing zombies, fun game but it's hardly original.

first person shooting limits the game experience and all the fights quickly deteriorate into a pattern of cover, shooting, cover, run from grenade, cover, shooting, cover shooting
unless you play on easy and runaround killing everyone with an SMG or whatever. the least they could do is add something to break up the game flow. like the boss fights in Pain killer.
AND NOT AN ENEMY HELICOPTER THAT YOU TAKE DOWN WITH A ROCKET. or how about a story line...one that's more than "You are good. They are bad. Kill them" that's what Half Life and Bioshock did so well.

Care to show examples of how First Person perspective limits the gaming experience? Or is this just another one of your opinions you yell at the top of your lungs?

Also, I pointed out BioShock as one of my first examples so I'll take that as I was right with that one. Sure it shares quite a bit with SS2, but it is an underwater city shown as a stark criticism of Objectivism. Show me a game that it copied for this idea.

everything is made for profit. Fallout 3 is Oblivion with a different map, and Fallout New Vegas is Fallout 3 on a new map. there's very little work done compared to making oblivion
also those games are RPG's you're getting off topic I'm talking about FPS's

You call Portal an FPS so I think you have a tenuous grasp on the concept to being with. Not to mention I added F3 as an example of original games that came out after Halo CE, which is what you were on about to begin with, try and focus my friend.

I don't dislike all shooters, Bioshock, Half Life, Deus Ex, you know the non-gray-brown-mess shooters. those are good. I even liked MW2's single player. even though it was 6 hours of hiding behind cover and dying.

I didn't even start single player in MW2. Shooters like that are best enjoyed in matchmaking for me, if I want an immersive experience I tend to go with games with far more of a narrative. Half Life, BioShock, STALKER, Condemned, Metro 2033, etc.

Did you skip the last console generation...ever heard of the PS2?
it had so many unique games on it

No shit, and alot of those games came out after Halo CE, what the hell kind of point are you trying to make? You said Halo CE killed gaming and no original games have come out since. This was obvious bullshit and now you seem to be backpeddling. I never said original games did not exist after Halo CE, I said the opposite you silly man.

Let me guess, your new games are a lot better than your old ones because the graphics are better right?
can an adult really get entertainment from shooting the same Russian terrorist in the head 1 million times? or is shooting Russians fun for some other reason?

My favorite game ever is Link to the Past, so no, I weigh a game on it's own merit, not some arbitrary set of rules.

Also, I don't kill Russians over and over again because I don't play single in those types of games. Yes I do, as an adult, get great joy out of competing with living humans over the internet.

the Nintendo fans are easy to please but the FPS douche-bags are stupid. draw a 2 on the call of duty box and sell it back to them. and they still buy call of duty 3
replace the background and all FPS's play alike. you can't say that for platformers or adventure games so people stop making platformers and adventure games (unless they make them Gears of GTA 4)

Only CoD I own is MW2. Most of the FPSes I own play drastically different. Just like that 'FPS' where puzzling and platforming is at the forefront, Portal.

then play the ones you like instead of buying the same thing you will like just as much as the same game with a lower number on the end. games don't get worse because they're not new. or have you not figured that out yet. the reason that samey sequels keep coming out is that they keep selling.

I've played so many retro games it's not even funny. What's the point you are trying to make here? That I don't buy games I want to play?

and you're getting just as heated over my hatred of FPS as I am over your love of FPS

Nope, don't care if you don't like the games I do, doesn't lessen my enjoyment. What I take issue with is your absolutist way of arguing that all FPSes are the same and are ruining the industry. That is a total load of BS and is a shining example of ridiculous hyperbole to make a point.