Poll: Worst things about MW2
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None of those things would normally bother me if they can be bothered to balance it properly. Knifing sholdn't have a magically lunge that practically reach you from across the hall, Noobtube shouldn't have that ammo or ease of using, the maps should be balanced so camping and akimbo shotgunners aren't so dominant. You can tell us "whiners" to counter them, but in the end of the day, that goes down to playing at their level and also using a noobtube/using a knife class, which isn't what I had in mind when playing Call of Duty. If that's what you had in mind when playing Call of Duty, having a room where everyone favours using the noobtube above anything else, fine, I'll do that as well. I also haven't addressed the dedicated servers or hackers yet, those are also a huge issue.
On another note, at least Black Ops is addressing some of the issues MW2 had.
On another note, at least Black Ops is addressing some of the issues MW2 had.
Besides the constant threads about it? Comon the game has been out how long now? Is it a year or something and were still making threads about it? Jebus!
Oh crikey! Reach has just come out, theres another billion threads on that ... Then in a few weeks black ops is out and the threads on them will last till MW3!
So many repeat threads!
On topic, knifers. Noob tubes are ok as long it's not raining them but knifers just piss me off!
Knives are beating shotguns in medium range, I have seen people disappear and reappear pulling the knife out of a guy, I have had hit markers off the spas with stopping power perk and steady aim. The range you can get is about 8-10 steps, during which you can't be killed and on even slightly laggy servers there god like.
Oh crikey! Reach has just come out, theres another billion threads on that ... Then in a few weeks black ops is out and the threads on them will last till MW3!
So many repeat threads!
On topic, knifers. Noob tubes are ok as long it's not raining them but knifers just piss me off!
Knives are beating shotguns in medium range, I have seen people disappear and reappear pulling the knife out of a guy, I have had hit markers off the spas with stopping power perk and steady aim. The range you can get is about 8-10 steps, during which you can't be killed and on even slightly laggy servers there god like.
Also kind of annoys me that without Ninja Pro your character sounds like a Clydesdale running around.
What are the odds of you beating a Boomkin? Especially if its critical strike chance is over 9000?Barry93 said:
Honestly, I played it in my friend's dorm room a few days ago for the first time. And I just didn't see what was so appealing about it. It's the same fucking thing as the first Modern Warfare. Why would you throw 60 more dollars at Infinity Ward to continue to produce the same shit with virtually no change in ANY gameplay mechanic?
This IS NOT intuitive game design. This IS NOT revolutionizing gaming, or FPSs for that matter.
It's regressing any progress made by actual games (like Portal and Fallout 3 where the gameplay is interesting and somewhat intuitive) because all Infinity Ward is doing is showing you can a huge, substantial profit by producing the same shit as ever. What publisher wants to risk asking a developer to produce something interesting, yet risky when all they need to do is make the same shit that's been made for the past 5 years.
So the thing I hate the most about it, is well, its existence. Perhaps if it had been new or refreshing I wouldn't be so scornful.
How strong all the guns are. If they just did a little less damage, and had a bit more recoil, I'd like the game a hell of a lot more.
The guns are already sort of nerfed as it is. It's a game about Modern Warfare and a direct hit from a triple M16 burst will not end you.
if you want to empty two clips into someone before getting a kill then I think Halo is for you.
if you want to empty two clips into someone before getting a kill then I think Halo is for you.
ok this tackle your point in bullet pointsMikeyfell said:
1. that's about realistic cover-based combat which is not a a FPS instead its a 3rd person shooter a genre that like FPS is usual crowed that to say there all clones of this say gears of war of course not as people see a thing like a combat systems and how to implement's then differently would you say mass effect and gear of war were clones of course not mass effect you have ability ways to mix up the fighting style where as gears of war is more strategic choosing the right time to move up when to hide when to use a certain where this is not the same. this can be said with different games and genres such as the to most popular FPS halo and CoD MW2 as you're playing one you're not think hmm halo is fun to bad its just like MW no there different and once again there is an example of people changing games to there way of seeing it
2. just because yahtzee said something doesn't mean you have to follow him like a fucking sheep if you was to do what yahtzee said you would only play portal bioshock 1 and pscyonaughts(not sure if I got that right).
3. sure you will see the same things in different games you know why because we like it its what people enjoy once again an example of supply and demand sure it may get repetitive but when GoW 3 comes out you not going to buy it what you going to do boycott it because 'the combat system is the same if I want to play GoW3 ill just play another cover based shooter' then you sir are a dunce as if you are only playing games for the combat system then why play them you might as well just watch tv as i play for story character progression for enjoyment and if that means playing a game where the combat is similar to a game that happened to come out a couple of weeks before then so be it as for all you know this game could change your life forever but noooooo I don't want to play it as i don't want to go into cover whilst some one shooting at me as it is just repetitive then why are you playing games again all games are repetitive from Sequels to the game that rivals it for the top of that genre chart and if you're bored of them genre of games then don't just give up go play a new type of game put in a racing game or give sims ago or just take a break from gaming and wait till the new big release that takes you're fancy.
(once again sorry for the spelling mistakes and such)
(also sorry for spamming the thread with nothing to do with the topic)
Tac.
Freaking.
Nuke.
Although the matchmaking system, 16players, lag, hacking and player behaviour run it close.
Freaking.
Nuke.
Although the matchmaking system, 16players, lag, hacking and player behaviour run it close.
In all fairness, after a lot of time on all three games, here's how the XBL community ranks as far as shittyness.
3. MW2
2. Halo 3
1. GoW2
I've never seen so much quitting, so much griefing, heard so many racist remarks then when playing GoW2 online. Horrible community.
Best XBL community is Nazi Zombies. I don't bother playing with randoms on anything else, with Nazi Zombies it seemed like everyone was having a good time.
3. MW2
2. Halo 3
1. GoW2
I've never seen so much quitting, so much griefing, heard so many racist remarks then when playing GoW2 online. Horrible community.
Best XBL community is Nazi Zombies. I don't bother playing with randoms on anything else, with Nazi Zombies it seemed like everyone was having a good time.
Where to start, rubbish spawning, i have been once knifed by same guy 3 times on same killcam fairly because i spawned right next to him, and another time a clan sat behind the two spawns our team had on a domination match in favela and made it impossible to spawn and also put sentry guns right in front of them, unbalanced weapons, lack of servers so can have significant host advantage, lag, wierd thing were you can hurt people even when the gun inst pointed on them, like after they have run round corners and you keep shooting the spot they were at, takky knives and commando, have been knifed through walls and round corners and lost count of times it has just gone straight through a riot shield like its not there, noob tubes, camping, the fact every team objective game is won by the person with most kills not the person who did most objectives, insta scoping, nuke boosters, claymores, 3 bullet kills (i think its too quick to be able to be skilled and forces camping), and of course the short as story without coop that made not much sense....
but spec ops was fun, and offline with friends is fun too, and occasionally online if ur with friends and shotgun or riot shielding together.
but spec ops was fun, and offline with friends is fun too, and occasionally online if ur with friends and shotgun or riot shielding together.
Other - The lag, when I shoot some guy in the face with a shotgun only to see the killcam pretend I didn't even look at him angers me!
So I changed my ISP to a little more powerful one and now I am the host in half of the games I play and I get to sit at the top of the scoreboard pretending I'm actually good at the game.
So I changed my ISP to a little more powerful one and now I am the host in half of the games I play and I get to sit at the top of the scoreboard pretending I'm actually good at the game.
mostly I'm going to respond to your second point because the rest of that was just wrongpostzit said:
we were arguing this before I read his article
I liked Portal, Half Life 2, Bioshock, Psychonauts, Beyond Good and Evil, Shadow of the Colossus, Killer 7, Prince of Persia and Pain killer before he said they were good
he's just respected on this site and we share a few opinions so I thought quoting an expert would give my point some power.
as for your first point. he was talking about FPS games, as was I
as for your second point. Of course there are going to be similarities in games, but developers don't have to try so bloody hard to rip each-other off
are you talking about Gears of War, you're playing Gears of War for the story?
It's interesting arguing with someone on a completely different intellectual level isn't it
my "Games can be good" argument is going right over your head
and your "Mediocrity can be entertaining" argument is flying right under my feet
OK first yeah I play gears of war of the story I find it interesting I have read the books and I don't just play games for the fact of playing games if I didn't find halo interesting i wouldn't play it that simple. I play for enjoyment and I that means going though the same mechanics of a fight then so be it.Mikeyfell said:
also you was saying how yahtzee is a expert. i disagree he isn't an expert you cant be an expert at games because that's not the point of them there not played to be mastered there played for fun and if you don't get that then why do you play them if you want to master something go play an instrument or something. the point of games is that there is something for everyone to the casual gamer who looks forward to the new wii release to the hardcore gamers who properly fit every stereotype of a basement nerd who still lives with his mum at 35 does that mean that if the hardcore was going to play wii music then the chances are he would find it dull and boring same goes vice versa i won't expect my mum who played wii fit and enjoyed it to like playing guitar hero on expert. and its these clones that let certain genres carry on. if people stopped making clones of GH then there goes a certain part of the gaming market we need clones to carry on games other wise we would all be stuck never progressing.
and im guess you're going to go argue the point 'well you're just spouting how games should be fun it doesn't matter about the quality' then let me bring up retro games like the N64 or nes the quality back then was shit and you talk about games there were all rip off's did you complain that golden-eye and perfect dark were pretty much the same of course you didn't because it was all about fun as you went one on one with your mates or family for marathon long games like first to 100 kills or no kill limit but a 90 minute timer as you battle it out.
to sum up i believe that clones are necessary to the gaming environment as clones allow many companies to start there life into the gamin world they also keep certain genre's alive do you think RTS would be around if the best one wasn't cloned. a good example if point and click games sure there still around but you couldn't really clone them games you have a new fun story line and because of that its nearly dead that doesn't mean that point & clicks are bad quite the opposite there very good well some of them anyway but with the lack of games cloning people just forgot about the games as the just faded into the dust.
and also really you're trying to bring intellect into the fight what are you 7 or something as if you just want to insult each other then i think you missed the whole point of civilized arguments of bring different points across and just turned it into a basic school boy/girl(im not sure what you are) fight where we just insult each others mum's until on of us eventuality pushes the other and then all hell breaks loose
