just for referenceDrake_Dercon said:READ BEFORE VOTING!
You live in a small town. In it, there is a man.
He is a generous man, kind to all and very into philanthropy. He is by any definition a good neighbour and friend.
One day he asks you to house him for a while. He tells you he was an officer in a concentration camp. He cries for a long time. He is very sorry for what he's done (which happens to be a lot). He knows he will never be able to fix what he has done, but is afraid of what will happen to him if he is incarcerated.
Police soon come to your door asking for him. What do you do?
I was talking about something similar with my english teacher. We are both very convinced that rehabilitation is the best solution to crime, but for very severe crimes there is an instant desire to make someone pay. Usually harshly. This is that internal debate at its logical extreme.
Edit: Crimes against humanity, in case you were wondering.
Basicly I would decide only after knowing what exactly he was in the camp. But by definition I would, like him to repent by doing good, rather then getting him through court to and up in jail or be spoken free. then from the information i got from the first post I gather that he will do good, why should we take his chance him to do good in his last years in his life, in best case he is 78 if he was 16 in 1938. it has no point.silasbufu said:I too am from Eastern Europe and I hate Stalin ten times more than Hitler, but that's another story.
But logical thinking he can do more good outside the jail as inside. in other words we would forbid him his way of repenting for his crimes.TinCynic said:I'd turn him in. If he's truly sorry, then he most also face the consequences of his actions. If I were to hide him, I'd be condoning whatever crimes he may have committed.
We can forgive, but not excuse.
We have a brain, you don't, we use more than 2 colours, you don't, we are educated, learned history, taken a moment to think it over, you, as it looks, did not.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:What the fuck happened to people? Would you harbour a paedophile too, if he said he was really sorry, honest, and would never, ever do anything to hurt anyone ever again. Would you believe them more if they cried a little bit, and got a wobble in their voice?
Sure, I can't agree more. But that only depends if he would tell you the truth about what he did ( because I would turn him in within a blink of an eye if he really killed innocents just for being jewish or whatever the reason - and note again, I'm talking about innocents, not opposing soldiers ), even if after so many years, he was the true definition of a saint . So it just boils down to depends, depends, depends.Kouryuu said:just for referenceDrake_Dercon said:READ BEFORE VOTING!
You live in a small town. In it, there is a man.
He is a generous man, kind to all and very into philanthropy. He is by any definition a good neighbour and friend.
One day he asks you to house him for a while. He tells you he was an officer in a concentration camp. He cries for a long time. He is very sorry for what he's done (which happens to be a lot). He knows he will never be able to fix what he has done, but is afraid of what will happen to him if he is incarcerated.
Police soon come to your door asking for him. What do you do?
I was talking about something similar with my english teacher. We are both very convinced that rehabilitation is the best solution to crime, but for very severe crimes there is an instant desire to make someone pay. Usually harshly. This is that internal debate at its logical extreme.
Edit: Crimes against humanity, in case you were wondering.
Basicly I would decide only after knowing what exactly he was in the camp. But by definition I would, like him to repent by doing good, rather then getting him through court to and up in jail or be spoken free. then from the information i got from the first post I gather that he will do good, why should we take his chance him to do good in his last years in his life, in best case he is 78 if he was 16 in 1938. it has no point.silasbufu said:I too am from Eastern Europe and I hate Stalin ten times more than Hitler, but that's another story.
Would you as a human go and kick a dog who has stolen you a ham sandwich 3 years back?
Kouryuu said:Of course, if they're truly sorry.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:What the fuck happened to people? Would you harbour a paedophile too, if he said he was really sorry, honest, and would never, ever do anything to hurt anyone ever again. Would you believe them more if they cried a little bit, and got a wobble in their voice?
Some people have a scary belief of what "Justice" is... At least the polls say there are more civilized people here.
Some of you are pretty biased.
"Would you harbor a Vientman veteran?" Exhange that for any recent war in which the US and others have masacarred thousands. Not following order, always. The nazis had a pretty monstruous philosphy and they deceived their country; but soldiers from Western countries have done pretty awful stuff too.
So, would you harbor a war veteran?