Poll: Would you harbor a nazi?

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Arsen

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You want to know what I would do?

Absolute fucking nothing.

Even if he wasn't sorry for what he did...I refuse to turn in this man. Hollywood, Israel, and the Jewish people have villianized these people just for the sole sake that their ancestors were killed and it makes me sick.

Has the man apologized to God? Has he confessed his sins to Him alone? Has he said "God, Jesus...forgive me?". Even then, what right are you to judge in the midst of warfare?

Guess what world? The instance he does that...all the tears have been WIPED away...

We allow black people leniency on a sociological level towards crimes in the United States because of "historical discrimination and inequality", we allow the Mexicans to walk onto land which they take resources from because they are "starving" and "can't maintain anything in their own land", we make up excuses left and right for everyone to lay claim that Israel has a right to Palestinian land for a racial ideology that is insultingly masqueraded as a religion...but nooooo...the German people have absolutely no right whatsoever to ever lay the claim that they had their land usurped by foreign powers and that their country is in actuality BLAMELESS for what happened.

The man is innocent until death in my eyes.

It's only because we've been force-fed that image so many times in our lives, via movies, via war films, via Hollywood...that we actually believe this shit that we're often told. Was it bad? Yes. But it's been overstated as to how "horrible" it really was. I see their deaths as no different than the deaths of soldiers.

Signed.
A man with German ancestry and other "untermenscht" mixings.
 

emeraldrafael

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HG131 said:
emeraldrafael said:
HG131 said:
The ends can justify the means. He helped more than he hurt. In the end, his good outweighed his bad.
No they dont. And I'm sure the Jewish families would agree. Helping one life does not make up for consciously ending another.
I was talking about that guy's real life experience.
The one in mine didnt outweigh the good either. He stole from the people he was helping, and wound up in the end stealing enough money that would have equaled the Salvation Army opening two more centers, three stores, and clothing and feeding 20 families of four for a good while.

... He was at the game for a long time
 

Drexlor

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If he was sincere and truly felt guilty for what he had done, I might consider helping him. He wouldn't have much time left anyways. Plus, living with guilt can be a much worse punishment than death.
 

Rayne870

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Drake_Dercon said:
Rayne870 said:
If it were me in his situation I would have either defected to the Allies, and given them whatever information I had, or if there was no way out of it I would have taken my life and probably the lives of as many Nazis as I could.
Would you really? Most people didn't and even fewer before it was all over. It was all facilitated by the dehumanization of prisoners. It actually became harder emotionally (studies have shown) to kill a prisoner during an uprising because they displayed humanity rather than the standard mindless hopelessness that dominated their lives during their "stay".

It would have been incredibly difficult to do anything other than go along with it.
Well then off to choke myself on buckshot or make it so the rest of the Nazis have to shoot me. That unfortunately is assuming I wasn't broken by propaganda, which I think is unlikely.
 

dyre

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Of course I'd turn him in. Society functions because people who commit crimes are brought to justice. Understandably, people do things in wartime that they wouldn't have done in peace, but crimes against humanity is usually something we reserve for some pretty heavy crimes. A society that failed to prosecute people simply because "they became nice later on" might as well scrap its justice system altogether.

You cause the death of hundreds, maybe thousands of innocents, you have to answer to that. That said, I'd offer to give a character testimony in his trial, possibly to somehow reduce his sentence.
 

Zaik

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I think I would do absolutely nothing.

It's not really any of my business.

I'd tell the police stuff anyone else could have told them and send them on their way.
 

dyre

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What the hell does any of this have to do with ends justifying means anyway? Unless you're going to argue that killing Jews somehow made the world a better place, it's completely irrelevant.
 

godofallu

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Other: The risk to myself for concealing the person is not large enough to offset the reward of helping a human in need.

If he wasn't a nazi in the past life and it was some other lesser crime I would hide him. I can forgive him and wish him luck on his escape, but not actively contribute to his escape.
 

Bara_no_Hime

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Specifically: No, because there'd be no point.

If the police are already after him, it's too late. The legal system will imprison him, but nothing harsher.

I might not go out of my way to turn him in, but I'm not going to risk myself over him either.
 

dyre

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Rationalization said:
Depends, do I get money for harboring him? Do I get paragon or renegade points for turning him in?
Definitely paragon in this case :p
 

trooper6

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If he is sorry and repentant and all that, then he should turn himself in. And what happens to him should be up to a jury to decide. Preferably the Haag.

I am not harboring a war criminal. This is not about wanting vengeance, it is about following the law.

What if this guy, rather than a Nazi War Criminal...what if he was a serial rapist and killer. In this 20s he raped and murdered 50 young women. Then he felt really bad and turned his life around. Would I say, "Oh, okay, I'll help hide you from the law because you feel badly about what you've done?" No! I'd take him to the police.
 

emeraldrafael

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HG131 said:
1) Put into the system to help those the Salvation Army says in its mission statement its bound to help (i.e. the needy, but thats a general term and encompasses a lot of people).

2) Spent it on himself. he had a lot of it in a few bank accounts, and was indulging in caligula like fantasies of wealth and spoilment.

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Thats an oppinion. Lets use an example say there is another person with a gun about to shoot someone, say you have the power to stop it, would you ?
Either way someone will die, either through your actions or refusal to act.

I disagree sometimes ending lives can be for the greater good, hell look at WW2 we killed LOTS of people, all to save lives.

Allthough I dont understand in this situation how the guy is saving lives, so I dont really see it as relavent.
Would depend on the person I suppose, though I dont need to stop someone by killing them. I may break him, but I wouldnt need to kill him.

However, put in the situation, and with no prior knowledge, I dont act. I dont know if I'ms aving the next Ghandi or the next Hitler, and I'll bare it on my conscious and in the courts that I didnt help. Its not my place to if I have to kill one person to do it.

And its all well and good to say that we were just and saying we were saving lives, but the US couldnt give two shits about the camps until they actually started stumbling on them. We were in the European Theatre cause Japan pulled us in the Pacific Theatre, and we had already been supplying Britain with guns and supplies to help our allies (all in secrecy). If the US had actually been bothered to save mopre lives, we would have jumped in sooner, instead of sitting behind our isolationist beliefs.