Poll: Would you harbor a nazi?
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I almost said I'd kill him myself, but if the cops are already after him I'd just turn him in. The cops comming after him mean they have proof and he will not get off of the charges. If the question was what would you do if he told you in confidence he was a Nazi officer. I would have voted for the gone "missing" option.
I would hide him, but this is a very tricky question because of the vague details of when this is taking place.
If it was only like one or two years after the end of WW2 then yeah I'd turn him in, but if this is many years past the whole WW2 crime search and the police just decided to arrest him because of what he was then I'd hide him and think poorly of the justice system because then it would only seem like they were after him because of his affiliation with the Nazis.
Plus the OP did say that this former Nazi was a kind and caring man and good to the community, which makes me think that the crimes he committed were done because he was ordered to. People don't usually become officers right out of basic training. They have to work for it, which means doing things that their commanding officers say.
So to sum it up, I think that it would be a bit discriminatory if the police wanted to lock someone up for something that he or she was initially commanded to do.
If it was only like one or two years after the end of WW2 then yeah I'd turn him in, but if this is many years past the whole WW2 crime search and the police just decided to arrest him because of what he was then I'd hide him and think poorly of the justice system because then it would only seem like they were after him because of his affiliation with the Nazis.
Plus the OP did say that this former Nazi was a kind and caring man and good to the community, which makes me think that the crimes he committed were done because he was ordered to. People don't usually become officers right out of basic training. They have to work for it, which means doing things that their commanding officers say.
So to sum it up, I think that it would be a bit discriminatory if the police wanted to lock someone up for something that he or she was initially commanded to do.
If I knew from the start that he was running from the police, I wouldn't let him in in the first place. But say I did let him in; yes I would turn him in. Him hiding doesn't help him get out of trouble, it only makes me guilty of a crime as well. Plus, if he truly is sorry as you say he would claim to be, then it seems to me that he'd want to stand up and pay for his crimes. If he's really a better person now, he can get some people in that community as character witnesses and maybe get a less harsh sentence. But no, hiding from the police isn't going to solve anything.
Considering how he'd probably be in his late 80's to mid 90's, he would be constantly remembering his actions and hate himself because of this, and he would be mentally torturing himself since 1945 (possibly); I wouldn't turn him in. He has faced enough and there's no use in putting someone in jail for the last 10 years of their life. I'm not saying I could forgive someone like that, but I wouldn't persecute him for his past actions. Those will all be judged when he dies and if he really was sorry for his actions and he was doing this community service as a form of repentance, he should be ok.
That has almost no bearing on this whatsoever. The man you were talking about was probably using the community service as a "cover." Or at the very least was doing these things for his own selfishness. The man OP mentions is doing nice things for either the sake of doing nice things, or as a way of making up for his past actions. The two are almost polar opposites.emeraldrafael said:
This is not a crime one can atone for by him/her self. Proper legal institutions should be the judge here on how to deal with this man/woman. I would visite the guy in prison though. Personally I wouldn't blame him/her the only crime he/she commited was being a homo sapien (I only use the term human for people who have proven to stand above our animalastic behaviour) in Germanny at that time. Just saying it is not like you or I would act any differently if we were in the spot he was in.
I'm sure the families of the hundreds of Jews he put six feet under (actually, scratch that. They're not six feet under because their bodies were used to fuel furnaces) will be gratified to here he repented :/ultrachicken said:
What would justice be if we could get away with crimes simply by dodging the law long enough and feeling bad about it? I'd understand if a robber go away with his crimes after several years in hiding and him turning over a new leaf, but there's no statute of limitations for genocide.
I was responding to SvenBTB saying that the guy would only help a white, straight, racist male. You're reading too much into what I said.dyre said:
I'm going to posit the idea to my GF who happens to be jewish... see what she says just because I love laughing at her religion's bigotry and hypocrisy.
As for me, I'd let him stay for a few moments, days, weeks, and I'd even equip him with a bug-out bag just in case they come for him and he needs a quick escape. I can't stand the idea of throwing someone to the dogs.
As for me, I'd let him stay for a few moments, days, weeks, and I'd even equip him with a bug-out bag just in case they come for him and he needs a quick escape. I can't stand the idea of throwing someone to the dogs.
Well I would tell the police but I would hope that they would see that he was remorseful. That counts for alot, I think, in those sorts of trials. What they did in those concentration camps it was unforgivable and if he was an officer, well he wasn't just a soldier following orders. He should pay for what he's done. There is an old lady who lives nearby me who was in a concentration camp I would owe it to her to turn him in. It's just the right thing to do.
Also it would play on my mind that if he is capable of that level of atrocity, what else is he capable of.
Also it would play on my mind that if he is capable of that level of atrocity, what else is he capable of.
I'd house him for long enough to call up my friend who was in the IDF and invite him over.
I might help out an old soldier, because they weren't all Nazis, but a Neo or a party member from the day...not so much.
I might help out an old soldier, because they weren't all Nazis, but a Neo or a party member from the day...not so much.
I happen to know an ex-nazi actually, he served in the war was captured by Russia and escaped. He's got many friends in what seems to be nearing the end of his life (he's not in great health) and 2 of these friends are jews, one I believe is one who's a survivor of the war as well.
It's not like all the Nazis knew there was genocide going on. From what I recall he was drafted and was put into a tank division.
It's not like all the Nazis knew there was genocide going on. From what I recall he was drafted and was put into a tank division.
God said to forgive, but they killed my great grandpa. I'm not sur e what I'd do. I guess let him off the hook. God could use him for good if he's truly sorry. If not he has a bullet to his head coming.