Probably, if they look like someone I would be attracted to I don't think that attraction is going to suddenly fade because they are trans.
Hey it's only partially the fault of any trans person, especially because a lot of times to us it comes off as a non-issue in the day to day scheme thing of things. That often means that it's something we don't consider, meaning that if it doesn't come up we might not mention it at all, simply because we didn't think about it. You can't put all the blame on us trans people, if you have suspicions it's perfectly okay to ask if someone is trans, or not. Especially because it's considered really bad amongst trans people to intentionally "trap" straight cis males who might have a problem with it. So if you don't find out until it's too late, it might because it never stuck the person you're going out with that it might be an issue. Stop putting malice into things where there more than likely is none.LeathermanKick25 said:Nope. I like women, as in biological women. As in vaginas and the lot. You hear all the stories about straight guys getting all pissed off when they've hooked up with a girl that actually turned out to be a guy. That's my biggest issue with this whole debate. Trans seem to think it's completely fine to be deceptive like that? (Yes it is deception, no matter what way you wish to spin it)
Ok, gonna strongly disagree with you on this one. Seriously, tell any guy to go up to the next woman he meets and ask her whether she was born male or female, and let me know how it turns out for them.KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:...if you have suspicions it's perfectly okay to ask if someone is trans, or not.
Well I was speaking specifically in the case if someone has suspicions, so thanks for taking a small part of my post out of context. As things go there are ways to tell if someone is trans. The leg spacing on biological men is different from biological women. So that could be used to spur the question in that case.Ihateregistering1 said:Ok, gonna strongly disagree with you on this one. Seriously, tell any guy to go up to the next woman he meets and ask her whether she was born male or female, and let me know how it turns out for them.KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:...if you have suspicions it's perfectly okay to ask if someone is trans, or not.
Yes, also, even amongst trans people you'll find that we find it a shitty thing to do to people. It's a lie of omission, the question is weather, or not it's intentional. Grant people the benefit of the doubt here. I've had dates where I've failed to mention I'm trans to the other person, not intentionally, I wasn't trying to mislead them. I'm generally reserved about the potential of sex until I really know someone anyways, so trans-panic has never really been an issue for me that way. Anyone I get into bed with already knows I'm trans. It's one of those things, I can't be blamed for not telling someone about my biology, especially when being my self is a normal thing to me. Actually it saved me a few times, as I've dated people who just started a line of conversation where they told me they were vehemently anti-trans.LeathermanKick25 said:I still think it's a shitty thing to do. There's tons of proof on the straight guy freaking out or what not. Whether it being in a relationship or casual sense. You know it's an issue, you know people have a big problem with it. Just be upfront. Either they'll be cool with it, not be interested and in the extreme they get violent or really aggressive. Well, would you want to be involved with someone who reacts that way? It's never going to be a simple utopia where everything goes down smoothly. Not unless it was in some Trans specific bar/club.
Don't you know they're part of the gay agenda and the globalist zionist islamist lizard jewish banker conspiracy that got obama the socialist electedlax4life said:No, doing something that sounds like it would require some amount of effort. Also Alex Jones told me that trans people have super cooties, and nobody wants super cooties.
That's really disturbing, and those sort of gay men are disgusting, not in the least because the way they're acting kinda outs them as sluts. Then again I've been to numerous gay bars with some gay friends, I've found most of them I'm not considered "dating material"... But that's beside the point. The point I'm making is that it seems a majority of gay bars have rules about this, if someone declines you because they're straight, then you're expected to respect that. If you fail to respect that, you'll get bounced right out of the joint, and probably banned for life. So that's probably why you see so many pushy ones at non-gay centric clubs.LeathermanKick25 said:I've never had it happen to me, and I don't doubt a lot of the time it's an honest mistake.
It's a shitty grey area for all involved. It should be open to both sides, but it's rude to ask and sometimes too confronting for the trans person to openly say it straight away. Hell my biggest issue in clubs these days is gay guys who don't take "No, I'm straight" as an answer anyway. The venues me and my mates frequent are mostly straight people all around.