Poll: Would you kill a man?

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mark0217

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Oh yes. He would die faster than my conscience kicking in. I have loved ones to care for!
 

Embright

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What a circumstantial question.

If this is self defense because this muscle-bound thug, stereotypical I know, talks to Satan and wants to paint my face with his crowbar than I'd probably unload my Colt .45 ACP into him.

If he is a 16 year old skinny punk with a baseball bat who talks to emo-Satan and is jacked up on coke I'd probably would be able to disarm and pin him until the police arrived.
 

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XxNoMercyxX said:
The only way you can live is to kill him.
No, the only way to live is to get the man unconscious and wait for the police. I never like these options. It's like the question to a vegetarian: "If you do not eat this chicken I will kill 10 more." I would not eat the chicken and I would make damn sure that man didn't kill 10 more. I never think inside the box and my hands are never tied.
 

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JWAN said:
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Damnit! Beat me too it!

I recently found out that in my rather right-leaning home state of Indiana, I'm fully within my rights to shoot dead anyone who enters my house with the intent to harm me or my family. While I'm not sure if I would, I legally could.
 

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Motti said:
While I voted yes (I've been so pissed before I nearly killed one of my mates, it would only take someone to really piss me off for me to kill them) I found an interesting statistic once, although I'm not actually sure one the credibility of it.
It stated this: only about 1% of civilians are prepared to kill, and only about 25% of rookie soldiers as well.
People may say that they are prepared to kill, and I don't doubt that some of them would, but you can't know unless you've been there.
At least I know I'm that one percent thankfully every situation that I was in like that deescalated. Though I still feel I should have pumped some rounds into that punk who ran away because I came out the front door with an SKS assault rifle after I heard him trying to break into the bathroom window. Bastard probably shat himself though it would have been hard to explain to police why I wasted a guy in the middle of a neighborhood while impersonating Dirty Harry. Oh well I figure if my Grandma could almost kill a guy doing something similar I have to do the same for the gene pool.
 

BakaSmurf

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Well, I almost beat one of my classmates into a coma in self-defense before, so in the heat of the moment I wouldn't doubt I'd be able to kill someone to protect my own life.
 

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First, I would spend a few seconds wondering how it is he figured out where I live. Secondly, it would depend on what kind of gun he had. I mean that pretty much gives him the advantage; unless hes drunk. However, to answer the question, I would stab him w/ a knife. He would drop the weapon; then I would tie said person up.
 

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antipunt said:
This isn't really that hard of a scenario because morally, it's in your right to defend yourself...

hell, even the -freaking law- wouldn't punish you for it.

To make a more difficult scenario, it needs to be far more controversial
According to this situation, you insulted this guy earlier. Surely that would be a provoked attack and change things?

Anyway, I probably wouldn't kill him. I know I can't fight, so I'd just throw something at him and try and make a break for it. If all else fails, I'd jump out the window. I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of shooting me.
 

sabledonoghue

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A friend of mine is a cop. After two years on the force, a man pulled out a gun and my friend killed him. Afterward, he was very depressed. I asked him if there was any upsides to killing a man. He said "yeah, getting to feel bad about it".

So yes, I wouldn't hesitate.
 

Crimsane

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That's quite intense, right there. My dad once told me my granddad was this close to shooting a guy in the chest with a revolver because he wouldn't back away(long, weird story), and he never forgot about it(hence why I know about this, in retrospect).

So, yeah, shooting someone ain't no cakewalk however one slices it. Hope you're doing fine.
It really burns deep into your mind. At first, a dozen "what if" scenarios haunted me for a while. Frequent nightmares, and even "daymares" sometimes. I gradually convinced myself I had no choice, which stopped the "what if"s, but not the nightmares. Those eventually became less frequent as I made peace with myself, but I still carry it with me, and it's been eight years, almost nine. Sometimes, I'll be reminded by an offhand comment, or seeing something on TV. I suppose this is about as "fine" as it gets.

The only really accurate posts imho are the ones who say they believe they'd do X, but they're not sure because they've never been in such a situation. You really don't know until you're there. I sure didn't.
 

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As much as I would love to say, "Hell yeah I'd do it. Afterwards, I'd make a cup of tea until the police arrived then sleep a full night when they left," I won't because I would probably think about the moment several times a day, including when I lie fully awake in bed at night staring at the ceiling and wondering what the hell came over me.

So I suppose the answer is yes, but I would do anything possible to avoid it.
 

EricKINGS

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This is a real hard question. When asked if he were triying to kill me or something, i guess id answer yes. However, im saying just sitting here with no knowledge watsoever. To answer this question correctly id have to already been through a situation like that.
 

Zacharine

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My answer is No. If I have the time and capability to kill him, I can also disarm him. Which I will proceed to do. After that it's run like hell or contain and subdue him.

However, theoretically assuming that killing him is honestly the only option I have, it's down to him or me....

Yes. he's come after me with the clear intent to seriously harm/kill me, he's breaking and entering (clearly not giving a sh*t about the law) and not leaving despite knowing the police is on their way. He's beyond rationale and threatening my life. He can't be reasoned with and he doesn't care about the consequences. If lethal force is the only thing capabable of resolving the situation, I'd use it. Once he is down, I'll call for an ambulance and do everything I can to help keep him alive (no matter how unlikely that would be), but I would give him every chance at living I could while retaining my own life.

But this situation is a bit unrealistic, because honestly if you have the means to kill him, you have the means to subdue him by wounding him, disarming him or at least use means that don't immediately lead to his death (giving him a chance to be saved by the paramedics/hospital staff).

But afterwards, I'd likely need to see a councellor a few times to help with the nightmares.
 

grenade_shield

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Crimsane said:
That's quite intense, right there. My dad once told me my granddad was this close to shooting a guy in the chest with a revolver because he wouldn't back away(long, weird story), and he never forgot about it(hence why I know about this, in retrospect).

So, yeah, shooting someone ain't no cakewalk however one slices it. Hope you're doing fine.
It really burns deep into your mind. At first, a dozen "what if" scenarios haunted me for a while. Frequent nightmares, and even "daymares" sometimes. I gradually convinced myself I had no choice, which stopped the "what if"s, but not the nightmares. Those eventually became less frequent as I made peace with myself, but I still carry it with me, and it's been eight years, almost nine. Sometimes, I'll be reminded by an offhand comment, or seeing something on TV. I suppose this is about as "fine" as it gets.

The only really accurate posts imho are the ones who say they believe they'd do X, but they're not sure because they've never been in such a situation. You really don't know until you're there. I sure didn't.
I had something like that happen to me, but not that severe. I had a friend of mine who flipped out on drugs one night and tried to stab me in the eye. Luckily for me, I had a rather large ornamental scythe hanging on the door, so I grabbed it and struck his weapon hand.

I don't think I should feel bad about it, but I do. He was a guitar player before that and I wonder if he ever recovered. He was on a downward spiral anyway, I guess...

My point is, I can understand how what you went through is a lot worse. But it was either him or you, man. You did the right thing.