Poll: Would you pay as a nazi?

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jonnybe123

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It could be a very intresting game to make. You could show different sides within germany during world war two with one of your friends asking if you heard the rumours about mass graveyards etc and also show how some people believed the propaganda. If done well it could be a very impressive game game whatever the format. Im tired of the american we won the war attitude.
 

teh_n00b_root

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TheLastCylon said:
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OT: No, I'd rather not be associated with the Nazi Party in any way, shape or form. I don't see why any sane person would.
If you judge someone by what character they play as in a game then you should talk to a psychiatrist.
So, I'm crazy for not wanting to be associated with the Nazi Party and frowning on people for wishing to play as a Nazi, you know, the guys who participated in the mass genocide of about 12 million people.


Gotcha.
Considering the fact that most people know the difference between a game and the real life, yes.

By the way, your numbers are way off.
1. I understand the difference between video games and real life. I'm just saying that, if you want to get on my bad side, go ahead and support a game that features Nazis as the protagonists. I just really hate the Nazi Party, and I don't understand why you think that this hatred is something that should be cured.

2. The Holocaust is believed to have claimed the lives of 11 to 17 million people, not just Jewish people, mind you. 12 million has been the number I've always used.
The Nazis weren't the worst people. Would you play as a Russian in a game? Stalin was as evil, if not more evil than Hitler. The russians killed more of there own men then any other country did to eachother. Do you have an objection to playing as a russian? Just because the americans or the british or the french or any other of the countrys were on the right side doesnt mean we didnt commit horrible atrocitys. Yet people still play as those countrys without complaint
 

TheLastCylon

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teh_n00b_root said:
Your argument is based on something that is purely subjective. I think Nazis are the worst human beings to ever exist.

Mirrored Jigsaw said:
I agree completely, those are all wonderful films and some of my all time favorites are on that list.

However, I believe video games are different that movies as an art form because they are interactive. I would just feel extremely uncomfortable if I was forced (and by forced I mean picking up the game and not being to play as anything but a Nazi, not being tied to a chair and made to play the game) to play, and carry out actions that would offend me, as a Nazi.


Note: I would have no problem as playing as a member of the German army. Especially if the game would be based around undermining the Nazi Party's rule through subterfuge. Playing as an actual Nazi is the thing I wouldn't like.
 

ChaoticLegion

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It's a game... of course I would.

In a game I'd also shoot, maim and kill people in any FPS or RTS out there just for fun... doesn't mean I'd do it in real life.

Personaly I think it's those people who say "no" because it would be morally wrong or would mean you somehow "support" the nazi's and what they did that have a twisted sense of reality.
 

Danpascooch

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Nazi's don't "pay" anybody!

What about playing as a Nazi who was ordered to do horrible things, but felt it was wrong, and defected, that would make a powerful story.
 

userwhoquitthesite

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Fuck no I wouldn't pay as a Nazi. I'd steal fancy jewelry from the jews and become rich as balls.

Now PLAY as a Nazi, sure. Why the hell not?

Of course, it'd only happen if they made a game out of the Valkyrie assassination plot.

go-go gadget Desert Fox!
 

jboking

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I don't want to play as a Nazi, because I don't want to play in WWII anymore.
 

Mirrored Jigsaw

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TheLastCylon said:
teh_n00b_root said:
Your argument is based on something that is purely subjective. I think Nazis are the worst human beings to ever exist.

Mirrored Jigsaw said:
I agree completely, those are all wonderful films and some of my all time favorites are on that list.

However, I believe video games are different that movies as an art form because they are interactive. I would just feel extremely uncomfortable if I was forced (and by forced I mean picking up the game and not being to play as anything but a Nazi, not being tied to a chair and made to play the game) to play, and carry out actions that would offend me, as a Nazi.


Note: I would have no problem as playing as a member of the German army. Especially if the game would be based around undermining the Nazi Party's rule through subterfuge. Playing as an actual Nazi is the thing I wouldn't like.
But video games aren't necessarily about letting you do stuff that you want to do. Sometimes, to get a point across, you need to present an extreme negative. Merely by being repulsed in the things that you as a Nazi would do, you are learning that it is something to be repulsed by. There is room for video games to use horrible people and horrible actions as a learning device, and in the end, that's what all art is. All art is a way to show people what they didn't already see. People could learn a lot by living in the shoes of a Nazi, and video games allow people to do it. Books just tell people about it, and movies just show it to you.

"I would just feel extremely uncomfortable if I was forced ... to play, and carry out actions that would offend me, as a Nazi." That uncomfortable-ness that you feel is necessary. If you weren't uncomfortable doing it, it isn't teaching you anything. Video games aren't just gun-wank as "Yahtzee" Croshaw on Zero Punctuation points out that many of them may be. A lot can be taught with an interactive medium.
 

freakonaleash

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Yes, I greatly admire the Wermacht. And it'd make a change.

Also, please change your O.P, not all German foot soldiers were Nazis. The Nazis were a political party that didn't even get the majority vote without cheating.

German =/= Nazi.
I've been waiting so long for someone to say that...I'm so happy :'(
 

ArcWinter

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Yeah, sure. Although it depends - is the game good? If so, yes, if not, no.

Although the Russians are about fifty times cooler.

But if I had a choice, I'd definitely play as Space Hitler.
 

TheLastCylon

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Mirrored Jigsaw said:
TheLastCylon said:
teh_n00b_root said:
Your argument is based on something that is purely subjective. I think Nazis are the worst human beings to ever exist.

Mirrored Jigsaw said:
I agree completely, those are all wonderful films and some of my all time favorites are on that list.

However, I believe video games are different that movies as an art form because they are interactive. I would just feel extremely uncomfortable if I was forced (and by forced I mean picking up the game and not being to play as anything but a Nazi, not being tied to a chair and made to play the game) to play, and carry out actions that would offend me, as a Nazi.


Note: I would have no problem as playing as a member of the German army. Especially if the game would be based around undermining the Nazi Party's rule through subterfuge. Playing as an actual Nazi is the thing I wouldn't like.
But video games aren't necessarily about letting you do stuff that you want to do. Sometimes, to get a point across, you need to present an extreme negative. Merely by being repulsed in the things that you as a Nazi would do, you are learning that it is something to be repulsed by. There is room for video games to use horrible people and horrible actions as a learning device, and in the end, that's what all art is. All art is a way to show people what they didn't already see. People could learn a lot by living in the shoes of a Nazi, and video games allow people to do it. Books just tell people about it, and movies just show it to you.
You make a very good point. If more people are exposed to the atrocities committed by the Nazis, something like the Holocaust would have a very low chance of happening again. However, I don't think videogames are the correct medium to expose said people. They just aren't take seriously as a form of education by the general public.

Also, I play videogames for entertainment and satisfaction. I would never play a game about playing as a Nazi. Ever.
 

Darth_Dude

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Yes! I would definately pay to play as a german soldier. I'm tired of all this one-sided crap in WW2 games.
 

Mirrored Jigsaw

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TheLastCylon said:
Mirrored Jigsaw said:
TheLastCylon said:
teh_n00b_root said:
Your argument is based on something that is purely subjective. I think Nazis are the worst human beings to ever exist.

Mirrored Jigsaw said:
I agree completely, those are all wonderful films and some of my all time favorites are on that list.

However, I believe video games are different that movies as an art form because they are interactive. I would just feel extremely uncomfortable if I was forced (and by forced I mean picking up the game and not being to play as anything but a Nazi, not being tied to a chair and made to play the game) to play, and carry out actions that would offend me, as a Nazi.


Note: I would have no problem as playing as a member of the German army. Especially if the game would be based around undermining the Nazi Party's rule through subterfuge. Playing as an actual Nazi is the thing I wouldn't like.
But video games aren't necessarily about letting you do stuff that you want to do. Sometimes, to get a point across, you need to present an extreme negative. Merely by being repulsed in the things that you as a Nazi would do, you are learning that it is something to be repulsed by. There is room for video games to use horrible people and horrible actions as a learning device, and in the end, that's what all art is. All art is a way to show people what they didn't already see. People could learn a lot by living in the shoes of a Nazi, and video games allow people to do it. Books just tell people about it, and movies just show it to you.
You make a very good point. If more people are exposed to the atrocities committed by the Nazis, something like the Holocaust would have a very low chance of happening again. However, I don't think videogames are the correct medium to expose said people. They just aren't take seriously as a form of education by the general public.

Also, I play videogames for entertainment and satisfaction. I would never play a game about playing as a Nazi. Ever.
Some author once said that a good book tells you the truth about its heroes while a bad books tells you the truth about its author. A bad game simply tells you the truth about its characters. A good game tells you the truth about yourself. Until video games take themselves seriously, nobody will, and the sooner that we as consumers realize that, the sooner that developers will realize it. If all video games are is entertainment to you, then that's fine, but that doesn't mean that anyone else who would be willing to take the plunge should be condemned for it.
 

Zedzero

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Hell yes. Especially and RPG version, where I become a level 10 SS and get to run and manage my very won concentration camp, it would add a great level of deapth with micromanagement, how to balance oil levels, making sure to use all of your overflowing ammunition etc.

Fun for the whole family's and Jewish Community! They will see why it was so fun!
 

punkrocker27

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yeah. a lot of nazis didn't want war and genocide, they were just doing their job because hitler forced them to. my own grandfather protected the harbor at new york and when he caught two S.S. agents disguised as Americans that's the exact spiel they gave him