Poll: WoW going too far?

[Doctor Glocktor]

Ah, one of these guys. They are so fun on the WoW forums.

"LORE IS STATIC FROM WARCRAFT AND SHOULD NEVER EVER BE CHANGED EVER FOR ANY REASON EVER" Tends to be the way people like this think.

 

[Neverseen6]

It'd be easier for it to be an expansion, because they'd have to update EVERYTHING for a new game, so it'd take years of development. And it's just a short story anyway

 

[Eldarion]

It's not hard to follow several storylines.

But WoW has already ruined itself by neglecting the true fans in order to gain the attention of the mainstreem audience. That is the source of their sucsess and failure.

If by "true fans" who are you talking about exactly?

Cause the large majority of people who play wow are casual players.

 

[MDSnowman]

But Cataclysm is making it a new game entirely.
Every region is going to be altered and reviewed. They're not just tacking on another island, they're reshaping the entire world and adding new class-race combinations.

This. Blizz has learned alot about making a MMO since WoW-Classic came out and you can see that in Wrath of the Lich King. They managed to make everyday questing fun as opposed to mindless grind. That's great if you have a character in Northrend, but if you were questing anywhere else you were stuck with grind. Reading everything they're going to change this is pretty much WoW2, and it's about time.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Let me summarize the story in as few sentances as i can:

Titan becomes evil, posses a wizard who makes a portal that lets demons and orcs in azeroth.
wars ensue for domination. lich king is made, completely fucks everything up. so begins the aftermath aka WoW.[/quote]

Spoiler: This is my attempt at trying to summarize the beginning of the First War. As you can see, it's not as simple has you put it:

A demigod named Sargeras was charged with enslaving the "evil" races of the Universe. He did so, but that affected him greatly. Eventually, after enslaving and jailing a vampiric like race called the Dreadlords he becomes corrupted and reaches the insane conclusion that order means destruction. He releases all of the demons he jailed before and starts the Burning Crusade with the goal of destroying everything the Titans have created.

After many worlds have fallen, the Titan's attention is taken by a little world called Azeroth due to the reckless use of arcane magic by the Night Elves. There, he saw how the Night Elves had formed an entire society based on arcane magic. Thinking of a way to enter Azeroth, he appealed to the "queen" of the Night Elves, Azshara. He promised he would marry her but in turn she must let him enter this world. She and her most faithful servants, the Highborne, started channeling the powers of the Well of Eternity, the source of arcane that gave them their powers and turned them into the magnificient creatures they are today. The Night Elves saw the evil that had corrupted Azshara and started fighting back the demons she had unleashed in hopes that they could close the portal that was being created in the Well before the Dark Titan could pass. This was the beginning of the First War.

That is JUST the beginning and I haven't even TOUCHED on the story of Malfurion Stormrage, Illidan Stormrage and Tyrande Whisperwind. Heck, I didn't even come close to explaining the second time line that occurred due to 2 wizards(One a dragon in disguise and one a servant of the Kirin Tor, a human state that was based on arcane magic the same way the Night Elf society used to be based on arcane) and an Orc (Broxigar) found an anomaly that transported them back to the beginnings of the First War and how they fought along the Night Elves against the Burning Legion effectively creating a new timeline and rewriting history.

Really, trying to summarize a lore as vast has Warcrafts is impossible.

Those who have been playing Warcraft since 1 and 2 only to see how Blizzard decided to rape their lore throughout the WoW timeline.

And how did they rape it through the WoW timeline? Do explain.

OT: How are they going to far? They're effectively releasing World of Warcraft 2 with Cataclysm giving that they're revamping Azeroth as a whole. People wanted content, Blizzard gave them shitloads of it.

 

[Eldarion]

It's not hard to follow several storylines.

But WoW has already ruined itself by neglecting the true fans in order to gain the attention of the mainstreem audience. That is the source of their sucsess and failure.

If by "true fans" who are you talking about exactly?

Cause the large majority of people who play wow are casual players.

Those who have been playing Warcraft since 1 and 2 only to see how Blizzard decided to rape their lore throughout the WoW timeline.

Oh, see you are in the minority now.

Most of the people who play (and pay for the game) are casuals who just play the lower endgame content for fun.

If you look at it from a numbers perspective anyway.

 

[Stormshadow243]

It's not hard to follow several storylines.

But WoW has already ruined itself by neglecting the true fans in order to gain the attention of the mainstreem audience. That is the source of their sucsess and failure.

If by "true fans" who are you talking about exactly?

Cause the large majority of people who play wow are casual players.

Those who have been playing Warcraft since 1 and 2 only to see how Blizzard decided to rape their lore throughout the WoW timeline.

They haven't raped anything. Some stuff has been retconned, but that's happened through WarCraft regardless of it was an MMO or not.

 

[VanityGirl]

More content is bad? Are you insane?

I think OP would rather there be a WoW2 instead of new content which may make the game's story too confusing or make past missions irrelevant.
Honestly, I kind of see his point. While new content is certainly needed, if you continiously pack on content without paying attention to story, then it can make a game sour.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

But Cataclysm is making it a new game entirely.
Every region is going to be altered and reviewed. They're not just tacking on another island, they're reshaping the entire world and adding new class-race combinations.

This. Blizz has learned alot about making a MMO since WoW-Classic came out and you can see that in Wrath of the Lich King. They managed to make everyday questing fun as opposed to mindless grind. That's great if you have a character in Northrend, but if you were questing anywhere else you were stuck with grind. Reading everything they're going to change this is pretty much WoW2, and it's about time.

Too right. Besides, this is the point of an MMO; you don't need to make a sequel, you can expand and add to it constantly.

 

[LewsTherin]

I hope WOW2 is in a steampunk future setting.

they are making gnomeregan a city. problem solved.

FINALLY. If I have to go back down there one more time to clean it up I SWEAR ON THE LIGHT THERE WILL BE SOME SKULLS CRACKED.

If you all didn't know, Gnomeregan ranks up there with Blackrock Depths as my most hated instances.

 

[Wolfram23]

One big problem about expansions is that it basically makes old content obsolete. I played WoW from the beginning, and leveled many characters. One thing I noticed is that everyone seems to be concentrated on hitting that max level, so nobody really gives two shits about past content. Cataclysm will help renew old interest with heroic versions of classic dungeons, but really that's just because you are probably going to skip every dungeon upon leveling since it's near impossible to get a group for it.

I quit WoW, however, because they def made it too "casual friendly" for my liking. I got to a point where my 80 warrior was pimped for tanking and dps, so I decided to make a Death Knight (I waited a little while so there wasn't quite as many DKs leveling) and within two weeks of hitting 80 I had him in full epics too. I should point out that I've never been in a raiding guild, and managed to get a lot of the epics by organizing PuGs. The original WoW was way harder, and even in BC you at least needed to get keyed for stuff. WotL ruined it all for me. I also went blacksmithing crazy on my warrior, with an average of 70-130 items on the AH at anytime, which according to my stats averaged me 3.3k gold per day and I made so much gold... I'm not sure how much because after 200k it went negative and I couldn't figure it out anymore... I had a Mechano Hog on both my characters, plus a traveller's mammoth on my warrior and 20k to buy a 2nd one on the DK. That's when I quit.

Actually, I'd sell my account for $600.

 

[DazWolf]

I'm excited for Cataclysm to finally come out. Playing new characters in WoW, it's kinda like growing up in a world. Yes, they haven't quite gotten the hang of the phasing mechanics, though who knows what will happen with the next expansion. Then again, if everything you killed stayed dead in the game, there would be no replay value, and that's not how MMOs work in essence.

I have had no problem following the storylines, and damn if there aren't a lot of them. Even on my 4th level 80, I'm still finding things that I missed the times before. However, the way it's built up doesn't mean that you have to know the story to level and enjoy playing with your friends. Sometimes it just makes things more enjoyable, depending on how much you actually care about that sort of thing.

 

[Sven und EIN HUND]

I can't see what's wrong in them in making a new expansion. MMO's can't survive without constant new content patches.

And that's /thread. Move along.

 

[cordeos]

making a new game is a bad idea for 2 reasons, 1 you split your player base because some people would like WoW 1 more than WoW 2 and you reduce the number of people who can play, WoW is currently compatible with almost every computer out there, making a new game and probably doing a graphical upgrade reduces numbers.

 

[Riobux]

It's not as though the same game is going to last an extra few years without content.