Poll: Yahtzee... don't forget the good stuff!

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Garaw

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Reiz said:
A very recent example is to compare Susan Arendt's review of Assassin's Creed to Yahtzee's ZP about it. Susan told you about reinstating the family villa, but Yahtzee pointed out how futile it was since it only gave more money to fix more in the villa, giving more money to fix more in the villa and so on.
Ah, yes, Ubisoft's confusing attempt to bring a feminine touch to a game about stabbing people in the kidneys. It makes a basic kind of sense that someone with two X chromosomes would be all asquee about turning AC2 into The Sims, while Yahtzee was less than amused.
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
I think of Yahtzee less of a reviewer and more of a critic
That's exactly what he is, he admits it himself which is why he'll never give a a game a score of 10 ect..
 

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Yahtzee even said no one likes him when he's nice to a game (Psychonauts) and he knows it's not very funny to love a game (Portal)
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
I've been noticing an increase in people creating topics specifically to address Yahtzee personally.

The only thing more futile would be installing a turn signal on a submarine.
Agreed, especially considering Yathzee's very vocal feelings concerning "fans". If he cares so little for "fans" what is he going to care for critics or those who even have "constructive criticism" towards him? Absolutely nill, as it should be. Leave him to his style I say. If it works for him, great. If people stop watching him, oh well. He only has himself to blame.

Secondly, stop giving me ideas damnit, I already installed a screen door on mine, now I have to get some turn signals too. :sigh: What's next, a set of disc brakes?! HRM?! Damn you Goomba, damn you...
 

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TheMasterGL16 said:
He SAID he liked the game and all that... but... after watching I found it to know WHY he thought the game.
What were you trying to say here?
 

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Garaw said:
Ah, yes, Ubisoft's confusing attempt to bring a feminine touch to a game about stabbing people in the kidneys. It makes a basic kind of sense that someone with two X chromosomes would be all asquee about turning AC2 into The Sims, while Yahtzee was less than amused.
It's not necessarily aimed at female players, seems more like a nudge toward FarmVille which seems rather popular for both genders, and across ages. The point is that Yahtzee complements the existing reviews with a negative view, giving us two angles at the same game. We wouldn't have that if yahtzee wasn't the cynical git he is, and for that I am thankful.
 

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Queen Michael said:
TheMasterGL16 said:
He SAID he liked the game and all that... but... after watching I found it to know WHY he thought the game.
What were you trying to say here?
Attempted translation follows -

"He SAID he liked the game and all that... but... after watching, I found it difficult knowing WHY he thought that way about the game."

Attempted translation terminated.
Chance of successful translation... ... ... 2%

Hrm, guess I need to work on that...
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TheMasterGL16 said:
I use Yahtzee?s reviews to know what games I would like to play.
You really shouldn't. Yahtzee is horribly opinionated. He is not a reliable source for information about a game. Since his web series is more about comedy that's not really a problem. But you should never trust only his opinion on a game.

And no, Yahtzee should not be more positive. Him being so negative about a game is what makes it funny.
Kraken's right here. Don't blindly follow another reviewer for a measure of a good game, he's just digging it up for laughs. Don't be a tool. x]

I bought some low-rated games from steam store, and some were actually realy good in my opinion.
 

sumanoskae

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Yes. You see the reason Yahtzee never says that many good things about games is because when he did he got shit for it(Psychnauts), but I know what you mean. I have a great amount of respect for Master Yhatzee, see I don't only love Zero Punctuation because it's hilarious, I think that Yhatzee at his best makes interesting points and allows me to see games a I have a cretin opinion about in a new light, more then other reviews because Yhatzee is great at getting his point across and acts like an actual human being rather then the robots you get on most sites. One of my favorites is the Silent Hill 2 review, I found his reasons for liking it very interesting. Also it seems that over the course of the series Yhatzee develops a character in the alias, showing us little peaks at the character behind the hatred. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would like Yhatzee to review games not just because they're bad and it would be funny to see him rip them a new asshole, but because they mean something to him
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TheMasterGL16 said:
I use Yahtzee?s reviews to know what games I would like to play.
You really shouldn't. Yahtzee is horribly opinionated. He is not a reliable source for information about a game. Since his web series is more about comedy that's not really a problem. But you should never trust only his opinion on a game.

And no, Yahtzee should not be more positive. Him being so negative about a game is what makes it funny.
I wouldn't say that. If he totally bashes a game and says nothing good about it, then it probably isn't that great of a game.


Usually he'll bash it (with very biased reasons) but then point out a few good things, which really over rule the bad things. You just can't take what he says with to much salt.
 

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He does not say too much bad things. You can always tell if the game is good or not.
 

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Actually, he does say good things about games, and you can generally tell how good a game is by the elements he rips upon and the consistency of said ripping. I have found his reviews pretty accurate. It all comes down to how irritating you find each of the problems he rips on. i.e. The eye contact in dragon age.
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
I think of Yahtzee less of a reviewer and more of a critic
I think of him as neither. To be a critic he must be willing to experience the entirety of a game or he's, at best, a dishonest critic. He is a comedian with pretensions of being a critic. Just because he calls himself a critic doesn't make it so. To put this another way, an art critic who ignores the use of color is no more an critic than a game critic who ignores multiplayer.

This is based entirely on his video segment, which I enjoy. I will grant him a number of things. First, I never feel that he lies about anything. When he points out a problem in a game I enjoy, I can generally agree with him. Second, he actually points out places where a game fails. While the Escapist reviews generally do a pretty decent job of telling me where something works and where it doesn't a focus on the failures is refreshing and important. It's a rare game that has no redeeming qualities and your average review will focus most of it's time on the segments that work. Knowing what doesn't work is just as important a part of the decision making process.
 

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Haha, Yahtzee's point is that he is very critical of games. That way when he likes a game [Portal, Batman: AA, Silent Hill 2] and says so, those of us who have watched long enough go, "Wow." And he won't comment because he most likely does not care.

He is extremely opinionated. People like him for that. If you want to know whether or not you will like a game, you should rent it and play it yourself.
 

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I think you missed the whole point of Zero Punctuation.

Besides, if you're the type of person to get hurt when a game you like gets ripped a new one, then you probably should go watch something else.

I love Batman: Arkham Asylum and I thought his review was very funny. And he made some good points about the game. But that doesn't change the fact that I think it's awesome.
 

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Akalabeth said:
jboking said:
I'm fairly certain Yahtzee has shown a distaste for catering or paying any attention to his fans...ever, so I'm going to go ahead and say that his review's aren't negative because we want them to be that way.
So I take it you missed the numerous reviews where he says "you guys complained when I mentioned the good stuff, so I'm going to trash it now" (paraphrased). I think it was the review right after Psychonauts or somewhere around there.
There is a difference between grazing over hate mail and actually reading it and addressing it's points. Think of all the times he has said we wanted something and then done the opposite cause that's what he wanted to do. He may have seen what we said, but he didn't give a shit(there's the difference between seeing and actually paying attention).
I'm damn certain he has addressed this before with a resounding "No" in an interview.

P.S. He's never on our forums, he isn't reading this.
Wrong. Considering that he has quoted forum posts on ExtraPunctuation.
When I say on the forums, I mean doing more than just looking at his threads. You know, being a member of the community. Something that he would have to do in order to see this thread.

Well, concerning most of his videos are about 5 minutes long, this would mean you are getting a minute review. That doesn't seem like a legitimate review to me at all. Of course, you've already stated that he spends most of his time on the episodes as an entertainer. So which do you think he is, entertainer or serious reviewer?
Newspaper reviews of movies take a minute to read and are based mostly on a star rating.
What's the difference?[/quote]
...maybe if you look at the "how many stars" section and then move on. However, going off of the newspaper I get, the movie reviews take longer than a minute to read.

How long does a review have to be before it becomes legitimate? What's the word count?
How about taking it fucking seriously as a review, something Yahtzee doesn't do. How about making the focus of your piece the review, not cheep/shock jokes.
Ebert and (the late) Siskel gave two word reviews, "thumbs up", and some people cared and still do care.
Clearly never watched one of their reviews
A review doesn't have to be long. It doesn't have to rate the game in different categories. It can simply be a recommendation or lack thereof.
Anyone can do that. When we talk about the title of Reviewer in this instance, we are talking in professional terms. As I've already said, he doesn't take his reviews seriously and trys to ensure he is entertaining instead of giving a good, balanced view of a game. He isn't a reviewer, he is an entertainer.

Not to mention earlier you stated that he focuses on the negative because "we want him too." Following your logic, which I still disagree with, I have to ask two questions:
What kind of reviewer chooses to focus on only the negative aspects?
what kind of reviewer sacrifices his integrity for traffic?
 

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Well...eh...it's ok. You should really add a third poll like "he's fine the way he is" because to me it seems like he does harp on the game half and half if it's ok, more bad than good if the game F***s the chicken, and more good than bad if the game is a diamond farting wonder.
 

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His reviews should be considered more for fun. Because while everyone else is praising it he on the other hand will tear it a new asshole. That is what draws people to watching him. So his "excessive" negativity is well worth it