King J Steakle said:
Frequen-Z said:
Neither. The films aren't as faithful to Batman as they could be.
The Nicholson Joker had a name. That alone makes it unfaithful since the Joker has never had a name and hopefully never will.
The Ledger Joker was only popular because of Ledger's death, and I don't like the scars. The character has a very thick shroud of mystery surrounding him as it is, adding another element to that kind of ruined it for me.
If I really had to pick, I'd say Nicholson since he was comical and lethal, Ledger was just creepy and lethal, the Joker's never been creepy in the comics. And that's what it boils down to for me, loyalty to the comics.
I think Two-Face is a better villain anyway.
The Joker has never been creepy? We're talkin about the same character right? The one who murdered a bunch of boy scouts by handing out poisoned free cotton candy? The guy who's mere confessions (of which the reader only hears "...and the kid just kept screaming all night long. That's the last time I ever used crushed glass.") made a priest scream so wildly the cops thought he himself was being murdered? And just to make sure, this is the guy who crippled Gordon's daughter and then took a series of disturbingly lewd photos to show her father while he rode through the Tunnel of Love.
Actually yeah you're right none of that sounds creepy at all.
You actually sound quite offended. Either way, we're playing with semantics, I don't think any of that shit is really creepy, just horrific.
There's nothing creepy about what he does, it's the methods that make a villain creepy. A creepy villain is all doom and gloom, The Joker is characteristically gleeful and filled with joy when he's committing his crimes. Hell, you've obviously read The Killing Joke, go check what clothes The Joker was wearing when he shot Gordon's daughter. That's not creepy, that's just maniacal.