Poll: YOUR political affiliation!

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Rawker

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8v-DScBWLU
I think this states it best.

edit: MOFO! how do you post videos? until then, look up government flu by the dead kennedys for my opion.
 

GHMonkey

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I don't associate. im just a gun toting moderate looking out for himself, family and friends in a dog eat dog world.
 

lostclause

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I never really fit into any category, there's things I like and dislike about all these divisions. However, one thing I think I am is fairly liberal.
 

QuirkyTambourine

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I don't really affiliate myself with anything, I'm more of a centrist than anything else, I take pieces from both sides and make my own little party
 

Akai Shizuku

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theSovietConnection said:
Akai Shizuku said:
DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT want this to become a flame war or a my-position-is-better-than-yours debate. Let's be mature about this for once. If I see a flame war, I will ask the mods to close this thread.

Tell us a little bit about your political position from your point of view, as long as you're not bashing others and are respectful. I think it would also be good to ask each other questions about the presented political positions, again, in a respectful and non-inflammatory manner. We're all friends here, right?

Let me start off. As those of you who know a bit about Japan might point out (see avatar), I'm a communist. Communism is a left anarchist political ideology based on the establishment of an egalitarian, oppression-free, classless and stateless society without the need of currency. Laws, etc. are all decided upon via direct democracy (communism is the purest form of democracy. Everyone contributes to society in some way, shape or form and is in turn supplied with their needs of living. The ideology was first thoroughly described by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in The Manifesto of the Communist Party. Anyway, that's my (very) brief definition of communism. What about you guys?
I've got a couple questions for you. First off, what would your avatar be from? It's puzzled me a bit. Secondly, is there any particular branch of Communism you go from? I'm a bit of a Trotskyist myself.

Well, I guess that would answer the question, I'm a full fledged Communist.
My avatar, comrade, is the flag of the Japanese Communist Party. As to my particular branch of communism, I'm somewhere on the fence between Marxist-Leninist and what they call anarcho-communist, which is when the state is abolished at the same time as capitalism rather than going through an intermediate stage of socialism. I think both can work, but I feel more comfortable with anarcho-communism because of what Stalin showed us can happen to the socialist phase.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
I've got a couple questions for you. First off, what would your avatar be from? It's puzzled me a bit. Secondly, is there any particular branch of Communism you go from? I'm a bit of a Trotskyist myself.

Well, I guess that would answer the question, I'm a full fledged Communist.
My avatar, comrade, is the flag of the Japanese Communist Party. As to my particular branch of communism, I'm somewhere on the fence between Marxist-Leninist and what they call anarcho-communist, which is when the state is abolished at the same time as capitalism rather than going through an intermediate stage of socialism. I think both can work, but I feel more comfortable with anarcho-communism because of what Stalin showed us can happen to the socialist phase.[/quote]

Thank you for that, and too right about Stalin. I have a paper a friend of mine did for history class you might like, it was theoretically what he believed would have happened had Trotsky succeeded Lenin as opposed to Stalin. Quite an interesting read.
 

paragon1

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I suppose I'm a moderate who leans to the left socially. I mostly just wish people would stop it with the hate and fear of each other. Democracy should be about open and reasonable debate. Oh, I also wish for a lifetime of free ice-cream and hookers, and I judge all three of my wishes to be just as likely.
 

BarkBark

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Your poll is very skewed. First off Republican aren't
very conservative (In office), also just because your
liberal does not mean your a Democrat.

Your voting spectrum is very left sided, where are the
other 'right' options besides non-leftist?
 

chronobreak

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As most people know, I am a conservative Republican, and I feel we are a small fish in a big pond on this site. However, may I take a second to remind everyone of the Conservative Council user group, which is the only of its kind here on The Escapist.

However, I can tell the OP that The Escapist is generally more liberal-leaning, and would ask why it is important to know other people's political affiliations? What can be gained?
 

Akai Shizuku

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theSovietConnection said:
Akai Shizuku said:
I've got a couple questions for you. First off, what would your avatar be from? It's puzzled me a bit. Secondly, is there any particular branch of Communism you go from? I'm a bit of a Trotskyist myself.

Well, I guess that would answer the question, I'm a full fledged Communist.
My avatar, comrade, is the flag of the Japanese Communist Party. As to my particular branch of communism, I'm somewhere on the fence between Marxist-Leninist and what they call anarcho-communist, which is when the state is abolished at the same time as capitalism rather than going through an intermediate stage of socialism. I think both can work, but I feel more comfortable with anarcho-communism because of what Stalin showed us can happen to the socialist phase.
Thank you for that, and too right about Stalin. I have a paper a friend of mine did for history class you might like, it was theoretically what he believed would have happened had Trotsky succeeded Lenin as opposed to Stalin. Quite an interesting read.[/quote]
That...would have been pretty awesome, for the most part. My only worry is the whole "permanent revolution" thing.
 

Aulleas123

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Institutional Conservative: Right now, the Republicans are horrific conservatives.

We believe:
1.) A government cannot and should not try to create a Utopia or a state run society. It doesn't work! This leads to violent revolution and the rise of a strongman like Napoleon and Stalin. (We also can't make democracies from dictatorships, Iraq will have a strongman in the near future, I guarantee it)
2.) Calm, mature, and understandable institution of Change. Yes, change happens and is inevitable but rushed change leads to disaster. (Think of elections, new leaders take over for the old peacefully and calmly: this is a conservative custom, even if it hurts our goals, this process is still there)
3.) A conservation of rights. While this changes over time as new rights are established (see #2), the basics should still be there: Bill of Rights, the various amendments, etc.
4.) An understanding that Humans are Humans and no government can change that. Wars, Poverty, Terrorism, and general dicking around will happen and will always happen. It's happened this way for thousands of years and shouldn't be ignored. This is why wars against these things or making statements like "The War to End All Wars!" are ridiculous.
5.) A conservation of national unification. If Texas seceded tomorrow (which some morons down there wanted to do after Obama was elected), I'd sign up to slap them back into shape. We should be unified, even if we don't always agree. It sounds worse than it actually is but why would someone play football with the center trying to crush the rest of the offensive line?

Some countries will never grasp this and cannot be institutionally conservative (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc). However most western cultures have their roots in institutional conservatism with varying degrees of political belief structure.
 

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chronobreak said:
As most people know, I am a conservative Republican, and I feel we are a small fish in a big pond on this site. However, may I take a second to remind everyone of the Conservative Council user group, which is the only of its kind here on The Escapist.

However, I can tell the OP that The Escapist is generally more liberal-leaning, and would ask why it is important to know other people's political affiliations? What can be gained?
Just curiosity. I like to know about the communities I converse with. Initially I actually thought there were quite a few conservatives here, and I learned something.
 

darthzew

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I am a non-party-affiliated consituationalist conservative libertarian, in that order.

1. I am constitutionalist because I believe the constitution should hold power, not the people or the government. This is why I believe the American constitution is perfect. It allows itself to be changed under discretion so as not to constrain the people, yet it also gives structure.
2. I'm conservative in that I believe we should respect the way things are because they're that way for a reason.
3. I'm libertarian in that I believe the government must be as small as possible. For instance, I'm against homosexuality, yet I don't think it should be the government telling me who should and should not marry; that's not their place.
 

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Glefistus said:
I'm a technocrat. Remember, the greatest argument against democracy is a 30 second conversation with the average voter. Basically, the technocratic modern world I envision as possibly workable, is a system much like our own, except the only members of parliament are the cabinet ministers(10 for each position, to ensure no one abuses power) and a Prime minister. The Prime minister is voted for by the populace, the cabinet ministers must be experts in their fields, and elected by member of that very same field, NOT the populace. Trivial matters and things that one Cabinet "board"(which is to say, one cabinet position) cannot decide on are sent to referendum via the internet(I know that this will be a tough thing to make work with proxies and what not. I guess people will have to register with their SIN).

EDIT: the economic system would not matter.
you just converted me

ALL HAIL technocrats seriously that sounds perfect
 

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Mansur said:
Your poll is very skewed. First off Republican aren't
very conservative (In office), also just because your
liberal does not mean your a Democrat.

Your voting spectrum is very left sided, where are the
other 'right' options besides non-leftist?
They can be more conservative than you think, y'know.

Secondly, I know that, which is why I put a slash between them as an "or" without the actual word.

There are more denominations of leftist philosophy than there is of right. I wanted to include as many right-and-left options possible while also including the last three options.
 

BarkBark

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Diagonal Horizontality said:
"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

My political affiliation lies with whatever best represents me at any given time. Anchoring oneself to a particular ideal or party is invariably a foolish undertaking; those who wield power must be monitored, not blindly obeyed, lest the onset of corruption be the downfall of all others.
Thank you

One of the most logical statements I heard on The Escapist for a while.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
My avatar, comrade, is the flag of the Japanese Communist Party. As to my particular branch of communism, I'm somewhere on the fence between Marxist-Leninist and what they call anarcho-communist, which is when the state is abolished at the same time as capitalism rather than going through an intermediate stage of socialism. I think both can work, but I feel more comfortable with anarcho-communism because of what Stalin showed us can happen to the socialist phase.
Alright, so I have a question for you. What will keep that anarchy from becoming feudalism? Who will uphold the law wtih no one too enforce it? Or too state it differently, who will protect us from each other? What's too stop the stronger man from taking what he wants, when he wants?
 

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paragon1 said:
Akai Shizuku said:
My avatar, comrade, is the flag of the Japanese Communist Party. As to my particular branch of communism, I'm somewhere on the fence between Marxist-Leninist and what they call anarcho-communist, which is when the state is abolished at the same time as capitalism rather than going through an intermediate stage of socialism. I think both can work, but I feel more comfortable with anarcho-communism because of what Stalin showed us can happen to the socialist phase.
Alright, so I have a question for you. What will keep that anarchy from becoming feudalism? Who will uphold the law wtih no one too enforce it? Or too state it differently, who will protect us from each other? What's too stop the stronger man from taking what he wants, when he wants?
The people's democratic laws will keep society intact. The people will collectively enforce the law which they decide upon. For your last question, I answer again - the people. The masses can be a much stronger force than many people think.